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    • Thank you very much.  I truly feel the SPL told us both to calm down.  I did ask the other parent to calm down twice.   I agree with the fact there is more.  I spoke with the Committee Chair.  He ultimately told me last night.  We can appeal but be advised the SM has stated in not so many words, he does not want to work with you being me. So the best way to ask the question is, if the scoutmaster doesn’t want you working with the troop, is this allowed.  How can this scoutmaster be objective about other issues when he cannot be objective about other people in the troop?  
    • I am not sure what freedom of speech has to do with this.  And I disagree with your premise anyway.  Except for specific places like college campuses where the "safe space" movement has gone too far, speech is pretty free in this country.  And in this forum. It is on the volunteers who choose to be involved.  The BSA has made clear that a trans yonuth will be placed in a unit that will welcome them.  When the BSA changed the policy, the 8 year old trans boy who had been rejected by his "home" pack was welcomed by a pack in a different town. You're talking to the wrong guy.   
    • Welcome to the forum, @TazDevil22. I'm really sorry this happened to you, but we'll try to help. There's a missing word here that could change the meaning a lot. Who did the SPL ask to calm down? I just think there has to be more going on than this. If I saw an ASM shouting at someone and this were the first time it happened I wouldn't ask someone to step down. Are there other reasons why people might want you as an ASM anymore? If you don't know, go ask the SM. There are lots of ways to appeal what happens to a scout but in all honesty what happens to an ASM is really up to the committee and SM. The Chartered Organization really has final say in any situation but usually they just follow the committee. I don't think appeal is the right approach. Fixing what's broken is probably going to work better.
    • I appreciate the optimism.  😊  My personal observation and experience -- especially with Scouters -- is that when a local, solvable problem is identified, there are always folks with creative solutions or just stamina who are ready to jump in and try it.  The "empowerment" issue is not about them -- it is about convincing the people with authority over that area to say "yes -- go for it."  I have seen far too many skilled, eager volunteers give up on solving a problem because the person or group that holds the keys or writes the checks won't approve the effort, or won't decide, or won't even listen.  That's where we need a "method."    
    • Hello.  So here is the scenario.  I was at a popcorn sale this past weekend. At the popcorn sale a parent came up to me and started screaming about how my son should stay away from his son. I asked him to calm down.  But it only escalated on their part and the screaming continued. I continued to ask him to calm down. In the end the SPL asked to calm down.  The parent calmed down.  I informed leadership and I was told to step down as asst scoutmaster and I cannot be near the building when the program is in process. I asked the Committe chair how could this be?   He told me they spoke to everyone and they felt we were both screaming.  In the end the committee chair said the scoutmaster does not want to work with me.  Question is this fair or is their a place I can appeal?
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