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    • Well said. We found that while many scouts get leadership experience, leadership skills are learned more by watching other leaders. And leadership training doesn't add much to the development. Which is why we stopped offering repetitive annual leadership development courses and started offering leadership tuning courses on demand. Why attend a skill you already know when instead get instruction for an area of leadership that you are struggling with?  Outdoors truly is the foundation for scouting because it puts the scouts in a challenging environment where they must make survival decisions. If you watch closely, you see that the patrol members must make many decisions just to cook a meal. The farther the patrol gets from working as a team, the more they struggle to enjoy a tasty meal. The outdoors forces evaluations of bad decisions and rewards for good decisions. The outdoors forces wisdom and integrity simply through the efforts of surviving the campout. The biggest hindrance to that growth is the adults not allowing the scouts to have that experience.  Adults can only get out of the way by separating their camp 200 feet away from the scout's camp. I love this scouting stuff.  Barry
    • Once again, we choose to accept passing off personal responsibility onto "someone or something".  Corporations or PAC's are somehow people, so they can do what individuals can; so says the court.  Until somehow we have the courage to FIX the legal jungle and not allow foolish and far fetched ideas or definitions to be accepted, we will continue to have these ongoing messes.
    • 100% dead on correct.  Outdoor adventures sells itself.  Leadership is boring and can be gotten many, many, many other ways.   Scouting flounders when explicitly teaching leadership.  Very few people can teach "leadership"; virtually zero scout leaders.  Perhaps, if BSA sells itself on teaching leadership, the chief scout should be Tony Robbins or the next Stephen Covey.   On the flip side, scout leaders are really good at teaching the outdoor skills and enabling campouts and adventures.  And, by being outdoors, you learn leadership and fellowship and and responsibility and helping each other.   But, don't market based on that.  Market adventure and outdoors.
    • We never had clean terminology ever.  It was always confusing.  BSA was always Boy Scouts of America and Cub Scouts were always members of BSA and thus were Boy Scouts.  ...  It's just that we were so so used to the terminology. Perhaps, it's now ... in order of my preference       Scout Pack versus Scout Troop       Cub Scouts versus Troop Scouts       Cub Scouts versus Scouts         Cub Scouts versus older scouts       Pack Scouts versus Troop Scouts      
    • Why?   Is it that parents see meetings at the church and assume church oversight?  The insurance company is saying be responsible or don't do it at all.  Simply meeting at the church infers oversight.  Liability is not waived by a legal document between the church and BSA because the parents are not part of the agreement.  This feels like a long-evolving legal interpretation.  Effectively, if you own something, you are responsible.  The church owns the building, so the church has responsibility to protect those using the building.  
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