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    • I'm for sure a "conditional Scouter." If I need to reduce time volunteering with Scouts for work, family, friends, or the church, it happens. If my troop starts making programmatic changes I disagree with, it's my obligation to step aside vs create problems. If the BSA starts mandating policies or rules I can't live with, I again, have an obligation to step aside for the good of the organization and my own sanity.  Sounds like a cudgel to bully people into doing things they don't want to do.  I'm cautiously optimistic for what adding girls into the BSA will do for girls, and if my troop decides to launch a troop for girls, I'll help them with that. I volunteer on the council level for various things, and will continuing to do those programs.  
    • I stayed in the program as an ASM, OA chapter adviser, etc after earning Eagle so I could give back. But I am a "Conditional Scouter." I became a professional, dealing with all the headaches, frustration and stress that job entails so I could make a difference. But I am a "Conditional Scouter." Once I left the profession, I volunteered again, leaving my wife and later kids at home, so that others could have a Scouting Experience. But I am a "Conditional Scouter." Instead of being just a DL for my sons, I picked up additional responsibilities on the district anc council level so that they and their friends could have a great time. So instead of being with them and doing things with them, I was running entire events. But I am a "Conditional Scouter." When my district began losing district committee members due to changes in policies they did not agree with, I stuck around and tried to hold things together. I was doing 4 different district jobs, which again took time away from my family. But I am a "Conditional Scouter." Yes, the term 'Conditional Scouter" is one to denigrate and insult those of use who care about the program, yet disagree with National. A lof of people, Scouts, parents, and Scouters, have reservations and concerns about the changes. We are hearing one set of things from national, but seeing just the opposite occuring with the early adopter Cub Scout packs, and those councils using Explorer Clubs to get a jump start on girls in Scouting. Funny thing is, at the town hall meeting, al lot of what I and others are seeeing, " joint meetings" and outright coed dens, predicted this would happen.
    • I am going to try and copy it so that I can manipulate it to have blanks where specific names and dates are.  Then it could have such a use but keep most of the historical integrity.  I will have to scan the back and share it also.  It has a form to list all the awards of the scout, and this one has all the dates for his ranks and merit badges listed.  It is odd to me that in my half century of finding stuff, this is the first version of this I have ever seen.  Like many of the old certificates, it is somehow more personal to the intent and recognition and also just simply better designed.  Since the cert is actually sealed in the frame I am not sure how a scan will come out, and do not want to open it up.  
    • "conditional scouter" sounds like a term used as a stick to beat people with. The sort of thing that would rile me somewhat I think.
    • Absolutely a concern but as with any new founding of a troop, the vast majority of the volunteers should come from the parents. Just a guess, but I would imagine less than 10% of all active scouters in a troop are not parents of scouts in that troop. The vast majority of scouters move on when their own scouts leave. A new girls troops should pull the vast majority of their leaders from their parents. In some cases there will be overlap as well as some complete transfers (e.g. female leaders in a boys troop might move to the girls troop so that they have adequate YPT leadership). Realistically, this is something the CO and the existing committee should work out in advance as much as possible. Such changes in leadership and volunteers should not come as a shock to either the new unit or the existing one.
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