Jump to content

All Activity

This stream auto-updates     

  1. Today
  2. Fair enough, maybe our guys were all used to sailing already it wasn't particular new to use. It was beautiful and a ton of fun. My two High Adventures we did we 74 mile canoe trip on the Buffalo River and backpacking the Gila Wilderness loop in New Mexico. Neither had no preset itinerary and the youth had to roll their own adventure. Some things worked, some things didn't.... Like failing to put the food in waterproof containers on canoes.... dunked dinner more that once on the trip. But great adventures!
  3. It depends how you define "high adventure". One person's adventure is another person's normal weekend. High adventure in context of my experiences New and challenging experiences --> BSA Sea Base ... Activities that we just can't do where I live. Physically demanding --> Philmont ... Carrying a heavy pack for 6 to 10 miles each day. Setup. Tear down. Hike. Hike. Hike. Dependent on your own crew for health, safety and success --> Northern Tier ... You are significantly further out and isolated than any of the other adventures. Help and comfort are an hour away. Maybe not a day or more away either. Cost --> All ... ūüėĀ Each can also be viewed as not a high-adventure. BSA Sea Base ... Expensive toys and the beach. BSA Philmont ... A week of summer camp activities with a BSA second class five mile hike at the start of each day BSA Northern Tier ... A canoe trip. I've been on several high adventures and I cherish all of them. Sea Base though holds a special place for me. It was a unique adventure different than any of our other adventures.
  4. Having been both a unit leader for a long time and a district/council scouter at times too, I've learned to appreciate that units often feel a whole lot more animosity and distrust of the council than is needed. I've found that units that make a good faith effort to work with the council generally have no problem with stuff getting approved. The council really isn't out there to make life difficult for the units.
  5. If there is a choice to be made that necessitates that I side with the councils/execs or the units/Chartered Organizations, I will choose the units and CO's every time.
  6. We have done the Key West sailing through Seabase, it is a lot of fun. It isn't High adventure but it is a lot of fun. I am not sure how the Bahama base is now after the last hurricanes, might be worth checking, For our Sea Scouts they were looking at the Captain waiting to do more, they would rather charter a boat and sail it themselves, because they can.
  7. They are using camp to denote an event, not a place. This applies to basically all overnight events longer than 1 day and less than 4. If your district has a camporee it applies. If you district has two troops camping together for a weekend in a field, it counts. Basically every camping event that it bigger than a single unit camping alone and is shorter in duration than necessary to qualify for resident camp qualifications. Worse than the standards is now that we have to find people to go through this training. Ugh. I want people to focus on membership, program, and unit service. Not more paperwork.
  8. Yesterday
  9. I've done Key West Sailing adventure with three crews (on the same week) and Bahamas Sailing Adventure with two crews. They are both very rewarding. Especially the snorkeling in the Bahamas. I'd go back to the Bahamas with my family in a heartbeat. Oh wait, I did! Yes, you can get private outfitters for each, but self-provisioning is a day out of your schedule. And the captains who sign up to host scouts are a unique breed.
  10. Save your money, book a week on the Chesapeake, DelMarVa Council: http://www.delmarvacouncil.org/high-adventure-opportunities/high-adventure-sailing-on-the-chesapeake/9297#Registration Save even more money...eliminate the middle man of the council, and book directly with the company: https://www.experiencesail.com/ You'll have to plan for and bring your own meals...but they will give you guidance on that...
  11. We have a group looking at the different sailing high adventures out of Sea Base. No one from our troop has gone on one of these, so I was hoping to get some feedback from anyone else's experiences? One thing we are wondering is which is better, the Sea Base Bahamas adventure or the Key West sailing adventure?
  12. Interesting that the standards apply to all camps with a few carve out exceptions most notably The National Jamboree. The attempt to state the Jambo is subject to more stringent standards is laughable. If that were the case, no need to exclude it.
  13. Featherbedding? I see little need here. Are there any safety issues? any complaints? any units asking for this? I predict little interest from volunteers. There are plenty of other places to camp. "The NCAP Local Council Authorization and Assessment Declaration also asks each camp to indicate the purpose of the camp. We think that camps should be able to articulate why the camp is being held and make sure that like Baden Powell said, what we do has a purpose." Good grief. We already have ACA and state regulatory organizations overseeing camp safety and operation, no need for redundancy. NCAP should just focus on training staff and volunteers to insure Program quality. My $0.02,
  14. That's my understanding from the webinar. Too many Scouters breaking rules and then having issues. I'm sure there were lawyers who challenged that the BSA hadn't done enough to make sure that the Scouters knew the rules. This in turn led to more liability payments for the BSA. The downside is that this is major new initiative requiring substantial volunteer overhead precisely at a time where volunteer bandwidth needs to be focused on membership and unit support. Not the best time for some new overhead initiative like this.
  15. Hi everyone. I just wanted to thank for the guidance you gave me on my question. This was all extremely helpful to me and our troop.
  16. Wonder what drove this? https://www.scouting.org/outdoor-programs/trail-to-adventure/the-highlights-of-short-term-camp-an-interview-with-the-ncap-chairman/
  17. It's a quote of a comment from 2010. Where ever @Beavah is, I hope he's well.
  18. I simply want to know if this is the original Beavah posting? If so, great to see you are still keeping the eye on things.
  19. I don't see how depriving councils of funding is "excellent" unless (as I believe is your position?) all councils and the entirety of Boy Scouts of America should be disbanded which I very much disagree with. In the meantime, units that are within Boy Scouts of America and that wish to remain so should a) obey the rules while b) advocating for rules changes they want. Openly and knowingly disregarding BSA rules is no way to demonstrate adult leadership.
  20. Love it. I wish I could say the same, but at least I was able to POINT at the Scout camp of my yoooth for my nascent Scoutson (Camp Roosevelt on the Chesapeake Bay, now part of the Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Power Plant). *sigh*
  21. Maybe it's just me, but it sounds like you've got a strong, active pack. I imagine that you also participate in popcorn sales. I'd just have a chat with your DE about getting these things approved. Yes, you can make it work "as is" and off the books, but I'm going to guess that other than a few tweaks, the council will generally go along with this. In the process, you'll save yourself the discussions in the committee meeting about doing it "off the books"
  22. Lots of folks assume that if you are not "soliciting" for money you are OK. That's not what the rules state. You also may NOT solicit "gifts" or "contributions" for your units either. Bold in original. This can't be any clearer.
  1. Load more activity
  • Posts

    • Fair enough, maybe our guys were all used to sailing already it wasn't particular new to use.¬† It was beautiful and a ton of fun. My two High Adventures we did we 74 mile canoe trip on the Buffalo River and backpacking the Gila Wilderness loop in New Mexico.¬† Neither had no preset itinerary and the youth had to roll their own adventure.¬† Some things worked, some things didn't....¬† Like failing to put the food in waterproof containers on canoes....¬† dunked dinner more that once on the trip. But great adventures!¬†
    • It depends how you define "high adventure".¬† One person's adventure is another person's normal weekend.¬†¬† High adventure¬†in context of my experiences¬† New and challenging experiences -->¬†¬†BSA Sea Base ... Activities that we just can't do where I live. Physically demanding -->¬†Philmont ... Carrying a heavy pack for 6 to 10 miles each day.¬† Setup.¬† Tear down.¬† Hike.¬† Hike.¬† Hike. Dependent on your own crew for health,¬†safety and success¬†-->¬†Northern Tier ... You are significantly further out and isolated than any of the other adventures.¬† ¬†Help and comfort are an hour away.¬† Maybe not a day or more away either.¬† Cost --> All ...¬†ūüėĀ Each can also be viewed as not a high-adventure. BSA Sea Base ... Expensive toys and the beach.¬† BSA Philmont ... A week of summer camp activities with a BSA second class five mile hike at the start of each day BSA Northern Tier ... A canoe trip.¬† I've been on several high adventures and I¬†cherish all of them.¬† Sea Base though holds a special place for me.¬† It was a unique adventure different than any of our other adventures.
    • Having been both a unit leader for a long time and a district/council scouter at times too, I've learned to appreciate that units often feel a whole lot more animosity and distrust of the council than is needed.¬† I've found that units that make¬†a good faith effort to work with the council generally have no problem with stuff getting approved. The council really isn't out there to make life difficult for the units.
    • If there is a choice to be made that necessitates that I side with the councils/execs or the units/Chartered Organizations, I will choose the units and CO's¬†every time.¬†¬†
    • We have done the Key West sailing through Seabase, it is a lot of fun. It isn't High adventure but it is a lot of fun.¬† I am not sure how the Bahama base is now after the last hurricanes, might be worth checking, For our Sea Scouts they were looking at the Captain waiting to do more, they would rather charter a boat and sail it themselves, because they can.
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Popular Contributors

√ó
√ó
  • Create New...