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  2. Yeah, your number three option seems the best... Separate male and female patrols until they reach a certain age and rank (my gut says 14 and First Class, kind of like the requirement for Scouts to join and continue working on advancement.) Then combine into Venturing Patrol (name isn't important, but could be kept for legacy...)
  3. Adult volunteers who know what they are doing, and have a passion for the specific program. Think about who would be the majority of adult volunteers for these programs... What type of person or background comes to mind??
  4. I brought this very thing up several years ago and was lucky to make it out of the room in one piece! Makes no sense at all to me that you can have 3 troops/packs meeting within 1 mile of each other, all struggling to draw more than a hand full of members to a meeting.
  5. I agree, that's certainly not a conversation that should involve all members of the troop. I would think Key 3 and maybe 1-3 more if there are long term committee members with positions who know all the parties involved would be sufficient and appropriate. But, it doesn't sound like the OP actually engaged in any significant dialog with the CC on the issue, so it's hard to know if the CC saying "lets discuss it with everyone" meant literally everyone or if he/she meant it the way my CC would have with just the core Committee members.
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  7. Anyone else having trouble getting on the Zoom hearing? It's never happened to me before this.
  8. Insert my general rant that the cub program should be split into two groups, roughly k-2 with a lower general time commitment, and 3-5 with a higher level of engagement, but because the kids are older its less stressful for the leaders. Reducing burnout in the cub program would help a lot. I do think the rise of more organized sports (and higher levels of commitment for all extra curricular) has certainly affected scouting. There's a question of how we can either be priority #1 for a few kids or a consistent #2 option for a bunch of others. I also think that there has been a general
  9. The issue is this.. If this is true, it is not appropriate. It is one thing for a CC to ask for information and to discuss in a committee (though, it think you should be careful and it should be avoided in more serious charges). That said, I find it odd to think it is appropriate to have an entire Troop meeting to discus the issue in hand. Now, after an investigation is complete, perhaps some report to the Troop is appropriate if changes are required. Otherwise, I have a hard time understanding why it is appropriate to have all members and volunteers involved.
  10. 100% agree with this. It is one thing asking a parent to volunteer to be a soccer coach. That takes a few hours a week for a couple of months of the year. Scouting takes more and is year round and a decade. Even the most dedicated have a hard time managing that. I also think while we saw some recovery post Covid ... the impact of Covid may last a long time. I don't mean vax, social distancing or masks. I mean that families saw a life where little Johnny didn't have 25 hours per week of scheduled activities. Sports seems to have bounced back, but things like music lessons, language
  11. No. No, there isn't. 😛 A poorly run Troop is the worst advertisement for Scouting. It undermines everything we are about. And yes, there are lots of them.
  12. There's certainly a multiple competing forces directing the subjective priorities of any troop. My impression is that emphasis on Rank Advancement above all else, from parents (many of whom are active in the CO), and from older Scouters who are trying to keep the program from folding (recruit and retain, whatever it takes.) Hence, you have Eagle Scout factories producing Eagles that can barely tie their own shoes, let alone knots and hitches. At the same time, we've lost families frustrated that the troop appears to emulate Lord of the Flies more than the Scouting for Boys. We h
  13. At $691B in endowments total across US, that's a heck of a lot of moolah. https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=73#:~:text=At the end of fiscal,the total was %24675 billion. And at $41B endowment, Harvard is richer than about 66 countries in the world... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_wealth
  14. Sure,you won't have to worry about your bills or providing.But all the world's gold won't take my nightmares away or give me back the past 40 years.This isn't an argument towards you or anyone else,just my thoughts.✌️
  15. Once again, the simple concept of local accountability and common sense are lost in the egos of too many adults. Meanwhile, the youth issue is not being properly addressed. I too often see the expectation that somehow someone from "on high" can dictate to those in the trenches. But real Scouting is local, which means the units directly. That is WHY there is a committee. And their option should be to get the input of the COR, if necessary, but try to find the solution within by actual adult discussion, not childish accusations and hysteria. Or so an old guy sees it.
  16. Honestly... I am kind of tired. I have been an adult leader for 5 years and Scouts has been a major part of our life. I have been a DL, CM, several committee positions. I am now CC for the boy troop and girl troop. My daughter is 13 and will be going into high school next year. This summer we will be doing summer camp in June and she has to show up for summer band camp in the second part of July. I have a 11 year old boy who I have to force to take care of requirements. I realized the other day that my kids are growing up FAST and the time we have left to do things while they
  17. Well kind-of. Certainly the social issues had an impact on membership, but I suspect it's not the lion's share of the issue. A very significant issue has been scope creep in sports combined with the increasing rate of 2 working parents in families. Many of those sports that were once seasonal have become year round or 3-season endeavors. Tennis, Lacross, Baseball, Field Hockey, Soccer, etc.. So where once a kid might do scouts for 9 months and just stop long enough for a sport season, now their whole year is tied up so they just skip scouts entirely. And the reason BSA started movi
  18. I ask parents: "How many times have you cut yourself?" "How many times have you gotten splinters?" "How many times have you gotten stung by a wasp?" "How many times have you gotten a sunburn?" "How many times have you gotten into an argument?" "How many times have you had to deal with someone who is acting like a jerk?" etc, etc, etc, They begin to get the right idea that they cannot (and should not) protect or shield their kid from all of life's risks. "Well, it's going to happen here, and probably a little more. But, we watch them closely until they
  19. The BSA is in bad shape. The first step in fixing a problem is to identify the problem(s).A brief summary of how we got to where we are: nearly 50 years of traditional membership losses, being cast as a bigoted/prejudiced white, middle class organization because of certain 'standards' that no longer formally exist, being cast in recent years as a dangerous place to enroll your kids thanks to the massive lawsuits without regard for the outstanding youth protection standard of the BSA, mergers and consolidations resulting in reductions in service, huge reductions in the number of unit serving pr
  20. It's amazing what billion or trillion dollar endowment funds will do for you when it comes to self-insuring.
  21. In which case the answer to the parents is, "I suppose Scouting is not the activity you are looking for. Good luck with finding an activity which fits your needs."
  22. That's exactly what the situation is, though most of those parents won't admit it. They want their children to always be completely safe and happy, obediently following the rules and doing only what they are told and not having to bear the responsibility or consequences for anything so they can just "be kids". Somehow they think their kids will magically pick up the ability to cope with life's trials after they are 18. The idea of raising children that question (politely) adults, determine what they think a solution should be on their own and who can function somewhat independently is s
  23. I found a 40s or 50s BSA published book of "Games to play" that included things like "Chicken Fights", and the game where you try and slap your opponent's hand before they can pull it away. I bet the BSA would disavow those too if ever asked about them. Huh. I wonder if Red Rover is still kosher? I loved that game as a kid.
  24. I'm a Nova and Supernova counselor and my assessment is that they are good to have on hand, but not what the kids are interested in. At the Cub level my Pack tries to do at least 1 Nova year to provide exposure to STEM, the Scouts like it because everyone without a Nova gets a new patch (the Scouts with a Nova are blahzay as they only get a pin for the patch). Considering that the program is set up like Merit Badges I sort of expect this to eventually get absorbed into Merit Badges or at the BSA Scout level turned into Merit Badges eventually.
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