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  2. Sure is. No one says what the LCs are offering is what will be accepted. In addition several councils I know in their letters of intent to pay into the settlement specifically said it was conditioned on global settlement that includes them (obviously they are not paying if they are not covered). So mediation is totally relevant and the fact that LCs are saying “we will pay X” is not the last word in the subject.
  3. A question for our legal team. There have been multiple local news reports of their councils financial contributions to the settlement. The articles are all similarly phrased with a finality tone as to the amount they will contribute. I can appreciate the Debtor trying to push "a final offer" but with Chapter 11 mediation ongoing is this permissible? https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2021/09/17/boy-scouts-settlement-2021-mid-iowa-council-pay-victims-child-sex-abuse/8377326002/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/sep/16/inland-boy-scouts-council-contributes-to-national
  4. In part, but my understanding a higher percentage of US Gymnast victims directly reported to law enforcement to no avail. The BSA failed scouts, but Olympian Simone Biles stated in a recent Congressional hearing, "an entire system that allowed his abuse" - USA Gymnastics, the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee, and the FBI. ... Advocates for the women say as many as 120 athletes may have been abused by Nassar after the FBI first heard of the charges against him. The Justice Department has not brought charges against either of the former FBI agents most closely invol
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  6. I have. Its not what I thought it was going to be. Information was good, execution was pretty poor
  7. I totally agree. OA is not a unit activity. Not at all. Except when the CO needs to clarify its position that OA is not a unit activity.
  8. The OA is not a unit activity. Not at all. So, it has nothing to do with the CO.
  9. I found the formatting of the screen and software objectional. It seem slipshot.
  10. The concerns are there, but there is no pre 1975 history. Also, some orgs are "dam the torpedoes" types that are willing to shoulder the burden of risk.
  11. My thanks to the moderators for all that they do!!!!!
  12. Wouldn't the liability concerns for any future charter though be the same as for any old charter? The UMC COs that are switching to facilities use around here are doing so because they don't trust the liability situation and coverage going forward with BSA. It's not just child abuse concerns either but what would happen if there was an injury claim or some other problem. The BSA has a lot of the traditional COs completely rattled and spooked and from where I sit it doesn't look like those reactions are without cause. An organization they trusted for decades and took at their word because of th
  13. In fairness to Mr. Green and BSA, any names and identifying features of people mentioned or thought of within a mediation context or by a mediation party or between mediation parties must surely privileged. They talked about Mr. Green as a potential mediator. Oops. He can’t be touched. They previously agreed he would be the Great and Powerful. Oops. He’s off limits. Can we find out why either of those decisions were made? Of course not. Mr. Green is cloaked in imperviousness. Mr. Greenjeans, you can depose. Mr. Green Grocer, the same. Jolly Green Giant, also fair game. Want to search Green Acr
  14. Well, that’s not entirely true. Monthly, we can say with certainty the amounts being expended for professional fees and costs. That’s something. May it bring you comfort and sweet dreams. Or not. PS - This is not a cast aspersion, rather a statement of fact to sooth my friend in these times of fear and uncertainty.
  15. Yep. BSA has always said as long as I can remember that they got your back. Now we are learning otherwise
  16. This totally sounds like they want to reduce liability in case of future abuse lawsuits.
  17. One of the things I enjoyed at scout camp this year was seeing the trailers and flags of units from all over, as well as seeing who some of the sponsors were. Fire departments sponsor units. VFW's sponsor units. There are a lot of places that will help with this, and a lot of people who see the value in Scouting. Our units are sponsored by parent-teacher school organizations. If we had to look for more sponsors, I would likely approach our local Friends of the Library and Friends of the Nature Center non-profit groups,
  18. I am late to this and have not read all the replies but instead of giving out titles, delegate tasks -- hey, would you have time to do our Scout Shop shopping for all the awards? Let them do it once. Then ask for repeat help. Then slip them an advancement guide... little baby steps. Hey, would you come along with grocery shopping for our campout? Would you help plan our October outing? I'd start off with one-off, low commitment jobs. Then see how they do with those, then give PROFUSE THANKS and invite again. Do not forget the Profuse Thanks stage. People need to feel
  19. BSA wants the judge to order the insurers to stop asking for discovery. I am not kidding https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47373/a142d925-ebd5-4709-b7ad-d99cdde395e8_6288.pdf They want the judge to issue and order declaring almost everything is mediation privileged therefore the insurance companies must stop asking.
  20. Good questions, probably a professional. Remember that Churches are only one type of organization that can sponsor a unit. VFW's, HOA's, non-profits, or even a business can sponsor a unit. The council would be my last choice because there would be the most amount of paperwork IMHO.
  21. Pending request from Deck Shifflet to depose Jackie Lemanczyk about the missing appendix in the aggregator's manual.
  22. Not sure of anything. But hard evidence has been in scant supply in this case about anything and I don’t see that changing. Without evidence our minds are left with intuition which I once heard was “intelligence in a hurry.”
  23. Once again BSA is stretching mediation privilege to the limit. Now it is Green, who again was NEVER a mediator or a mediation party, claiming mediation privilege as to why he won’t turn anything over “Mr. Green, for his part, has asserted mediation privilege to withhold hundreds of documents when he was never appointed mediator of anything. The Moving Insurers attempted to resolve the issues covered in the Motion to Compel with Mr. Green prior to filing. But Moving Insurers were communicating with counsel for Mr. Green until September 16, 2021 when Mr. Green’s counsel only then confirmed
  24. Another: they are demanding disclosure from BSA about why the coalition plan to get paid which the judge previously rejected in the RSA is being put back in as a plan 5.0 again they want the judge to order disclosure over the weekend https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47373/358b9ecb-570b-495c-920e-cdd2caca3339_6284.pdf
  25. Going to be coming in all weekend long I think. latest: insurers demanded documents and disclosure from Eric Green the proposed settlement trustee. Reading between the lines of the brief he told the insurers to go away. The insurers are insisting on discovery about Green and his ties to Brown Rudnick, why he was rejected as a mediator, etc. AND they want the disclosure before the September. 21 hearing. https://casedocs.omniagentsolutions.com/cmsvol2/pub_47373/503ae7b0-6c44-4cc8-96aa-5377439f7252_6282.pdf
  26. Uh huh. It also doesn’t mean it isn’t, if they tried to retract, had the material facts (or absence thereof) filled in by an aggregator or attorney, etc. You sure about that? Are you just being dramatic? Not poking, just asking. Also, does Rule 9011 apply here as to attorney conduct, signatures on claims and documents...that may lead to sanctions?
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    • Sure is. No one says what the LCs are offering is what will be accepted. In addition several councils I know in their letters of intent to pay into the settlement specifically said it was conditioned on global settlement that includes them (obviously they are not paying if they are not covered). So mediation is totally relevant and the fact that LCs are saying “we will pay X” is not the last word in the subject.
    • A question for our legal team. There have been multiple local news reports of their councils financial contributions to the settlement. The articles are all similarly phrased with a finality tone as to the amount they will contribute.  I can appreciate the Debtor trying to push "a final offer" but  with Chapter 11 mediation ongoing is this permissible? https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2021/09/17/boy-scouts-settlement-2021-mid-iowa-council-pay-victims-child-sex-abuse/8377326002/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/sep/16/inland-boy-scouts-council-contributes-to-national-/  
    • In part,  but my understanding a higher percentage of US Gymnast victims directly reported to law enforcement to no avail. The BSA failed scouts, but Olympian Simone Biles stated in a recent Congressional hearing, "an entire system that allowed his abuse" -  USA Gymnastics,  the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee, and the FBI. ... Advocates for the women say as many as 120 athletes may have been abused by Nassar after the FBI first heard of the charges against him. The Justice Department has not brought charges against either of the former FBI agents most closely involved in the case. The FBI fired Special Agent Michael Langeman in the last two weeks, FBI Director Christopher Wray later told the panel. Langeman's supervisor, Jay Abbott, previously resigned... I have previously stated, many times in more blunt, unscoutlike language, that all the BSA had to do was turnover all information (files) to law enforcement and let them investigate. Maybe, I was wrong. https://www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1036968966/gymnasts-nassar-fbi-senate-hearing-simone-biles-aly-raisman-wray
    • I have.  Its not what I thought it was going to be.   Information was good, execution was pretty poor
    • I totally agree.  OA is not a unit activity.  Not at all.   Except when the CO needs to clarify its position that OA is not a unit activity. 
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