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  2. MBC renewal process is in the spring, for every MBC. Either your Council handles (or District, if that is what your Council designates).
  3. One of our adult leaders, an ASM who was also a 5 badge MBC, needed to step in as our COR when ours passed away. Obviously he lost his ASM position, which has been a heartbreak for all of us, but now, all of a sudden, his MB credentials have an expiration date in his SB profile. Do MBC credentials actually expire, or are his being pulled because he is now a COR ?
  4. Hey all, let's get back to cub scouts. There are other threads about the bankruptcy.
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  6. Since it is not really an election, but rather a selection, now, I do not ask. What I do tell them is that Order of the Arrow is part of our UNIT program, not the Lodge program! WE use it as selection for an honor within OUR Troop. I have talked with many Scouts who fear one of three things: 1. I'm rejected. OK, so what? So now you KNOW, rather than walking around guessing. And that is an indication to you that there MAY be some area for improvement... if you should decide to improve. Would you rather know, or would you rather guess? 2. I do not want to be in the
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  8. We always ask those who are eligible if they are interested in being on the ballot. Over the last 5 elections we have had three who declined to be on the ballot.
  9. Thank you so much for that reply!
  10. Agreed. If a SM feels that a youth is not necessarily living up to the Scout Oath or Scout Law demonstrably, it's a good time to have a SMC with that youth and explain why they aren't going to get on the ballot. The very idea of trying to deny a youth AFTER they have been elected by their troop pretty much is public shaming. Having that conference with the youth, maybe you'd learn some things that are going on in that kids life, and it may just sway your opinion of them that being in the OA just might be an additional outlet for the kid to right themselves. I've seen enough Scouts flouris
  11. Perhaps its time for a change of command. The incoming unit leader could focus on the fun and not worry about "what these boys need to learn is...." The adult leadership in the OA should learn that the lodge doesn't belong to them and what they did is irrelevant unless it aligns with what the voting members want. Jezzzzzzzzzz.............what happened to just having a good time ?
  12. In order for a youth to be elected they must have Scoutmaster approval. The election team really has no idea who is eligible and they rely on the list provided by the SM. This approval or disapproval MUST be exercised before the election and its really that simple.
  13. We will be having two this year: the first on 2/12 with the UMC that was our CO for 72 years, and the second on 3/5, at our new CO. They weren't ready for us for today.
  14. I did as a kid. We have had it on our calendar the last 5 years. Last year, our SM tried to encourage our Sxouts to attend a church that has been our “summer CO” when the schools are closed. Most of the D ours were like “what? why?” I don’t know if any attend church services on a regular basis, in fact, I don’t think any do.
  15. I have wondered why ALL the councils (and maybe there were a few which did not, and anyone who knows, please post) got on board to contribute in the amounts determined by National to the Settlement Fund though being, in the words of National, "independent not for profits" from National and not under National's control. My council has virtually no exposure to abuse claims, as near as I can tell (lawyer), yet it sold off 1/4 of its only camp to a buyer which logged it immediately. A sad and tragic event. Some of that land was donated for the use of Scouts. In the words of "Carson the B
  16. We attended Scout Sunday today. We are so fortunate that our CO is solidly in favor of Scouting and that it provides so much support for the Pack and Troop.
  17. I never thought that the BSA did a good job in dealing with the lawsuits. 90 % of the claims were over 30 years old. The BSA executives generally were dealing with 2nd and 3rd hand information and there were no mandatory reporting laws, national background checks and/or protections for those that reported from defamation suits. It was a different time and those claims should have been made against the perps or their estates, not the BSA. I know the lengths that the BSA went to with their ineligible volunteer files (prior to national background checks) to protect kids and the BSA. We did more t
  18. Unfortunately, protecting the organization is also the route to protecting resources like our camps. Future scouts have lost so many treasures in my area over the last two years to pay for crimes of scouters who are long gone. I'm glad they take youth protection seriously. I just wish the way they do it seemed a little more well-reasoned.
  19. These days it's as much about protecting the organization as protecting the kids. With billions of dollars in settlement through the bankruptcy we made dozens of law firms and their lawyers rich, many are now millionaires. Where there are assets there are predatory lawyers...
  20. A great practical idea, but I suspect that BSA's insurers will want documentation that every covered scouter sat through and passed the BSA (and insurer) approved YPT training. Sadly, what was once so simple, is now so complicated.
  21. Great idea. Or start with a precourse test to check your knowledge. 70% rewards you by skipping the course. Barry
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  23. Well... 30 days... right? 6b. Develop and describe a plan for improvement in each of the activities listed in Tenderfoot requirement 6a. Keep track of your activity for at least 30 days. 6c. Show improvement (of any degree) in each activity listed in Tenderfoot requirement 6a after practicing for 30 days. 30 days later Push-ups ________ (Record the number done correctly in 60 seconds) Sit-ups or curl-ups________ (Record the number done correctly in 60 seconds)
  24. Is ours less than 90 minutes these days? It seems so much longer. I thought it was more like 2 hrs. I've been told that a switch to annual is coming for us, too. I don't mind doing some sort of ypt annually, but it would be nice if it weren't the SAME ypt every year. Maybe have a long initial one with shorter refreshers annually? Then do the full one again the next time it's updated.
  25. It would help a lot when explaining it to families. I just registered with USA Archery to eventually become a Level 2 Instructor. $35 for a background check (this $17.50 every 2 years). Their Youth Protection is every year and was more clicking and longer (90 mins?). Registration was $135/3 years, so $55/year. So. 72.50/year. Their training site seemed more polished.
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    • MBC renewal process is in the spring, for every MBC. Either your Council handles (or District, if that is what your Council designates).
    • One of our adult leaders, an ASM who was also a 5 badge MBC, needed to step in as our COR when ours passed away.  Obviously he lost his ASM position, which has been a heartbreak for all of us, but now, all of a sudden, his MB credentials have an expiration date in his SB profile.  Do MBC credentials actually expire, or are his being pulled because he is now a COR ?  
    • Hey all, let's get back to cub scouts. There are other threads about the bankruptcy.
    • Since it is not really an election, but rather a selection, now, I do not ask. What I do tell them is that Order of the Arrow is part of our UNIT program, not the Lodge program! WE use it as selection for an honor within OUR Troop. I have talked with many Scouts who fear one of three things: 1.  I'm rejected.  OK, so what? So now you KNOW, rather than walking around guessing.  And that is an indication to you that there MAY be some area for improvement... if you should decide to improve.  Would you rather know, or would you rather guess? 2.  I do not want to be in the OA.  Fine, no one says you have to go through an Ordeal.  But, if you are selected by your fellow Scouts, you now have OPTIONS. 3.  I'll deny someone else the chance (rare). NO!  Because it is not an ELECTION.  It is a SELECTION.  No one else loses a slot because of your being on the Selection Menu (versus ballot). By the way... and I have said this around here until I am BLUE in the face.  An Arrowman's FIRST duty is to his UNIT!  Not to the lodge!  Nothing obligates you to service to the Lodge.  If you choose to go through the Ordeal induction Ceremony, you are ALWAYS a member of the Order of the Arrow.  Should you not wish to pay the dues next year, you will not be a member of the Lodge.  So what?  You still may wear your sash at any and all OA observances.  Just take off the flap...
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