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About Eagle1993

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  • Birthday 04/19/1977

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    Fishing, hiking, camping, scouts with my son, watching Chicago professional sports teams & spending time with my family
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    Earned Eagle in 1992, aged out then returned to Scouting when my son joined as aTiger. Committee Chair of my Pack since 2015. ADL of all girls den, daughter is Lion.

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  1. Eagle1993

    Blue & Gold cost

    $0 We have a pizza and pool party. We do charge $55 in pack dues each year and raise money through popcorn sales.
  2. Eagle1993

    Youth Protection Policy Does Not Prohibit Retaliation

    Council executives (or at least some professionals in councils) have absolutely dismissed unit volunteers for non YPT related issues under the code of conduct. (Wear your uniform in a bar and see what happens.... even if you are not drinking alcohol or with scouts). I completely agree that the unit IH/COR/CC is the typical group (and correct group) to determine if any displine of a SM is required. That said, I don’t buy that the lack of a YPT retaliation policy prevented the DE from acting. There is no need to add additional rules in YPT. If the DE really felt the volunteer needed to be dismissed, he could absolutely pursue it under the code of conduct harassed clause. My belief is that he agreed that there was a YPT concern, the leader addressed it and the DE felt that was enough and the unit should handle the rest. When the parent complained he said nothing I can do and pointed to a lack of policy so he wouldn’t have to defend his decision further.
  3. Eagle1993

    Youth Protection Policy Does Not Prohibit Retaliation

    If the DE wanted to dismiss this leader they could have. Retaliation is already not allowed... see file below. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/controller/BSA_Whistle_Blower_Policy.pdf https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/controller/code_of_conduct_policy.pdf He also could be dismissed if the DE felt he violated the code of conduct https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/bsa-scouter-code-of-conduct/ I don’t see a need for more policies in the BSA. The DE probably felt what the leader did was not enough to dismiss him and hid behind a lack of policy. If he felt otherwise, I’m sure the DE could point to some existing policy and work with council to remove him.
  4. In my summer camp, Lifesaving was tough. Recovering the 10 lb weight in water with 6” of visibility was tough. I was a strong swimmer but took in a fair share of water coming up as our councilor would throw the weight in a different points to make us search (without vision) at the bottom of a muddy lake. Most of the scouts I was with never succeeded.... on second those scouts probably just did it later in a pool.... Outside of that, it was fairly easy if you are a good swimmer.
  5. Eagle1993

    Can a CO profit off a unit?

    With this info, my answer would be no. Once a year is enough payback to the CO. The wooded area cleanup would be fair if they could schedule earlier. More than this would burn up scout, parent and leader energy on a non core activity.
  6. Eagle1993

    Can a CO profit off a unit?

    @Cubmaster Pete forgot to mention his CO is McDonalds....
  7. Eagle1993

    Can a CO profit off a unit?

    We do this for our CO, but it is once per year. I think asking more, especially of a Cub Scout Pack, seems excessive; however, our relationship with our CO is 100% one sided. You can probably find other ways to raise $1000 easier than 12 brat sales and if the check is the only true relationship you have (I.e. it’s not a church where most of the scouts are already members) then I would pass on the sales.
  8. Transparency is key. They should have smply let their current members unit know their strategy. This unit probably knew they were going to add girls before they took action (or at least were open to the idea), so they should have simply told their current members their strategy. Polls aren’t required, but rechartering then suddenly announcing that the unit is adding a girls Troop will cause loss of trust.... that is very difficult to regain.
  9. @Cburkhardt Did you have any support from your council or was this all unit driven? How many all girl Troops exist in DC? Are you advertising 20 months to earn the Eagle Scout rank? From what I have seen locally, there has been limited support from Council and there are a limited number of adult leaders out there (so far) that are not already District or Unit volunteers.
  10. Eagle1993

    Do mixed-ranked Dens actually work?

    That’s essentially what we did for the exact reasons you listed. Unity of the den was a big one. In addition we were able to patch some areas where our Boy dens didn’t have great den leaders with parents of girls. The final issue was that it made the girls look like this odd group we added to the pack.... as each boy den was a single grade (6 dens) plus a collection of multi aged girls. All packs in my area who I have talked to and added girls have done the same. Our council and district are aware as are all of our parents. No concerns raised.
  11. Depends on how “linked” they are, but I agree. From our recent experience there are not many girl Troops in our area and as girls (typically sisters or daughters of scouters) find out they are starting to apply to the few units. I think “big”numbers are a few years out as it will take cub crossovers to really build numbers. Will be interesting to see how this goes.
  12. Eagle1993

    Cub Scout takes knee during pledge

    Doing your duty to country can certainly include protest. I’m not a fan of the kneeling and I see no real proposals out there in terms of the end game. What does this kid want the city council to do? That said, I could imagine that there are cases where a Scout uniform could be worn while protesting. Perhaps a city who attempts to take over a BSA camp ground through eminent domain. I would have no problem seeing scouts show up to the city council in uniform to protest. There could be a few others, but in general I would think you should not be in uniform unless BSA is part of the issue you are protesting....
  13. Eagle1993

    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2017/01/17/scouts-and-presidential-inaugurations-have-a-long-interesting-past/ Perhaps the uniform police can go after all of these Boy Scouts who wore their uniforms at Presidental inaugurations..... (actually, an interesting history, but I would say a good parallel to attending a SOTU). Note I do agree with you about the button & patch.... so perhaps the rest is an agreed to disagree. @RememberSchiff makes a good point. She is a 17 year old kid who is bound to make some mistakes. BSA seems to be holding strong to no exceptions outside the extension process released... I hope and expect they will not make further changes.
  14. Eagle1993

    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    SOTU is the President fulfilling his or her duty to Article 2 Section 3 of the US Constitution. It would be like attending a session of Congress or other governmental event. My Cub Scouts were invited by our Mayor to attend the next Village meeting. I believe they can wear their uniforms there (and should be encouraged) even though they were invited by a politician.
  15. Eagle1993

    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    That is why I thought Silver Buffalo would work. It doesn’t seem to have those limitations.