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Eagle1993 last won the day on August 24 2017

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About Eagle1993

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  • Birthday 04/19/1977

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    Fishing, hiking, camping, scouts with my son, watching Chicago professional sports teams & spending time with my family
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    Earned Eagle in 1992, aged out then returned to Scouting when my son joined as aTiger. Committee Chair of my Pack since 2015. Daughter may join next year as aTiger... we will see

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  1. OA and the aboriginal cultures

    Have you reached out to your local tribe(s) to invite NAs to work with the OA? From what I can see, the Seminoles did work with the local OA chapter.... but which others? I wonder how widespread the support is from various tribes and if they truly see this as honoring them. If the support isn’t widespread from NA tribes I wonder if it is worth the effort to fix that or to simply create new traditions as some have suggested. If it is widespread then perhaps it is simply correcting the areas that are not working with NAs.
  2. OA and the aboriginal cultures

    I went over and read a lot of forums on powwows.com. There are several threads about OA and Boy Scouts imitation of Indian culture. There are mixed opinions depending on poster. Some are against any non NA group depicting NA culture. Others defend OA and Boy Scouts who show honest interest in learning about Indian culture and working on accurately working on dance and regalia. One hot button issue appears to be ... pan Indian presentations. There is no single Indian culture... there are tribes. So, if you want to do this correctly you should wear the regalia of the tribe accurately and the dance only those tribe dances. Wearing, drumming and dancing generic Indian representations is akin to painting on blackface and putting on a Minstrel show. Definitely a mix of opinion, but that appears to be a red line.
  3. Naturalist-Environmentalist divide

    Actually there is something called global dimming. It is the impact of aerosols in the air reflecting our the sun’s energy back into space. It actually can help offset global warming impacts but the trend is reversing as countries get more strict about particulate pollution. There is is even some belief that contrails actually help lower earth temp. Some limited studies of this occurred during the days post 911 when commercial aircraft were grounded. I’m not sure if that is what the 70’s scientists were talking about.
  4. Virtual Campfire

    I would add... if possible... to perform this outdoors with a bond fire. You captured the key parts, especially the symbolism of leaving the parents to a patrol.
  5. OA to end AoL ceremonies?

    Correct. German and Irish decendants are part of those parades and support them. I’m of Irish decent and my wife is primarily German. If NAs are part of the ceremony or if the OA works with them on a ceremony then no issue. The issue is when a population that was nearly killed off by another race has their customs taken and performed without their permission and against their will. Just think if Germany scouts danced around dressed like Hasidic Jews. Sure, it has been generations since that genocide and the German scouts could be doing that in honor, but if the Hasidic Jews stated it was disrespectful then there should be no argument. I would also argue that I would never tell the Hasidic Jews that their offense is simply “their choice”. Given that we (non NAs) have taken nearly everything from NAs I do feel they get to own their cultural representations. I’m not sure it would qualify or even be achievable, but I think it could be an awesome Eagle Scout project for a local OA member to work with a local tribe to develop a ceremony accurate to local NA culture that could be passed down for generations.
  6. OA to end AoL ceremonies?

    Over the past 20+ years I’ve come to the belief that NA culturally representation is owned by NAs. If an OA lodge works with a local tribe and comes to some sort of agreement to honor them through ceremony I’m all in favor. If NA tribes in the area are not in favor then it starts to feel like a blackface play... even if well intentioned. I will say my experience in OA and with any NA cultural experience within BSA was done with respect and we discussed NA history in full context. I would certainly hate to lose this as it is a great opportunity to keep NA history, culture and customs alive. At the same time, if NA groups see this as insulting then it cannot continue. Perhaps National OA can discuss this with various tribes with the goal of finding a way to use ceremonies for eduction and honoring NA traditions. I would look at what Florida State did with the Seminoles as a good example.
  7. Buzzfeed - CSE Surbaugh - Girls - Scouter.com

    The same reporter broke the news of the Girl Scout letter back to the BSA. She has a source. What I learned is that BSa leadership are clearly struggling with how to create a Boy Scout level parallel program and read scouter.com. *whistles quietly* *opens profile* *changes location to Alaska*
  8. Adding Girls to Pack

    None at this point, but will watch for this. Our attrition rate has been fairly low so increases should be apparent. That said, no family has complained. I think the separate dens help during the transition plus girls have unofficial been tagging along for years so seeing them around won’t be a big change. Having them attend overnights and participate in meetings will be new and will watch for friction.
  9. Adding Girls to Pack

    Week 1 We are up to 9 girls now, 4 Lions, 1 Tiger and 4 Bears. The Troop has caused some issues with the charter renewal so we haven’t been able to sign up online yet... should be fixed by next week. We expect a few more Tigers to join as well. A couple of the parents are interested in becoming den leaders. One is a current GSUSA leader and the other an Eagle Scout and former scout leader. We have den meetings set up and several of the girls will be part of our upcoming PWD. We haven’t figured out the Be A scout flag and our DE told us not to worry about it. In our case, I definitely see a bit of pull front GSUSA. In particular the 3rd grade girls. There is a split in that Troop where some would like to do outdoor activities and others the fashion and mall stuff. The girls interested in the outdoors are now joining our Pack. I was on he fence of creating Girl dens next year but the interest shown so far makes me think we can create separate dens and have enough volunteers to cover. Several of the parents of the girls are interested in keeping it separate as well. Our current pack of Boys is 71 but is growing to 73 as new boys are coming in as well. With these new girls we will be t 82. We have not advertised at all... this is from parents discussing during drop off and pickup. Rough estimates based o word of mouth is that we could see 25-30 girls join next year. The new parents have been great so far. The fathers for the most part are the ones interested in this opportunity. Several have stated they aren’t interested in causing trouble they just want their daughters to have the same opportunity they had (or their sons had). Next up.. fixing the Troop charter and PWD with some girls.
  10. Adding Girls to Pack

    A new Where’s Waldo game! 10 up arrows to the first post who finds a Girl or Coed Pack!
  11. Adding Girls to Pack

    That is true; however, early adopters should be updating them. We haven’t been able to update ours (my understanding is COR has to setup first). I haven’t found any Packs showing up as anything but boys.
  12. Adding Girls to Pack

    One quick update that I’m not sure if anyone else noticed. The Be A Scout search now shows if packs are Boy only, Girl Only or mixed. I haven’t found any that are listed as anything but Boy Only but something to watch for as this ramps up...
  13. Expand the Morenci mine in Arizona. I also have problems with environmentalists who seem to believe food, products and electricity can just magically appear. There are definitely trade offs that must be made and risk/benefit analysis should be considered. That said, I believe protecting water is especially critical as no mine or drill site can be 100% clean or operate without error. My grandma had an oil well on her land in southern Illinois. There were spills (relatively small). The good news is that it wasn’t near a water way so to clean them up you dig out the containment and haul it to a landfill. My wife has worked for a power company to remediate oil gasification sites. Again, clean up is expensive but simple. Dig, dig, dig up that muck and replace with clean soil. 100% on board with the comment that we have to allow drilling and mining ... but we should also have limits where the risk is simply too great. I have fished multiple waterways (Milwaukee river, Illinois river, etc) that suffered from industrial pollution. It has taken a generation for them to start to recover from one generation’s mistake. I would not want to see that mistake repeated.
  14. I don’t believe the copper market is at a shortage crisis to the point that we should risk the BWCA. Damage to waterways is long lasting and extremely difficult to repair.
  15. Adding Girls to Pack

    Thanks. I figure I would post weekly updates on progress/findings/etc.