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    • My only frustration was that most of it was passable though it will trigger debate on what is fair ... what is equitable ... not everyone agrees.  The problem I had was one video then went on an ugly tangent that was introduced very late in the training and seemed to be from another course or another agenda.  Overall the training was good.
    • Yes and no.  The difference is when.  1970s/1980s/1990s yes.  Since 2000, I pray not.  Time Frame --> Mandatory reporting & Enlightened understanding of CSA ...  Very different ... Time frame absolutely creates a big difference.  Most BSA cases (we are talking about) are BEFORE the nation well understood abuse and before scout leaders became legally required to report.  USA Gymnastics incidents are very recent.  Late 1990/2000s/2010s.   Well after CSA became understood.  USA Gymnastics leaders MUST have fallen within a mandatory reporter role.  Either they were responsible for running the medical program or they were educators or ???? ...  ... They must have been mandatory reporters.   What really surprises me is why was the Nassar allowed to be alone with underage girls during an exam.   Why was a nurse not in there?  Why didn't someone say practices need to reflect modern standards?  If this was any clinic in my state, that would be the expected standard.   This also really surprised me.   The FBI (and others???) recieved the reports within the last 3 to 5 years.  Very recent.  ... These cases were reported after enlightenment.  After laws being changed.  After law enforcement has been taught to take this seriously.   How did they fail !!! In previous posts, I posted about large numbers of incidents excused away / minimized / labeled boys being boys, etc.  Gynastics.  Hockey.  etc.  ... If multiple groups are not taking these reports seriuosly now, imagine how police would have processed such reports from the 1970s / 1980s.   I must admit that I am shocked by recent cases when they come up.  I always think we are more enlightened now.   ... maybe each group needs to go thru it's pain ...    
    • Sure is. No one says what the LCs are offering is what will be accepted. In addition several councils I know in their letters of intent to pay into the settlement specifically said it was conditioned on global settlement that includes them (obviously they are not paying if they are not covered). So mediation is totally relevant and the fact that LCs are saying “we will pay X” is not the last word in the subject.
    • A question for our legal team. There have been multiple local news reports of their councils financial contributions to the settlement. The articles are all similarly phrased with a finality tone as to the amount they will contribute.  I can appreciate the Debtor trying to push "a final offer" but  with Chapter 11 mediation ongoing is this permissible? https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2021/09/17/boy-scouts-settlement-2021-mid-iowa-council-pay-victims-child-sex-abuse/8377326002/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/sep/16/inland-boy-scouts-council-contributes-to-national-/  
    • In part,  but my understanding a higher percentage of US Gymnast victims directly reported to law enforcement to no avail. The BSA failed scouts, but Olympian Simone Biles stated in a recent Congressional hearing, "an entire system that allowed his abuse" -  USA Gymnastics,  the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee, and the FBI. ... Advocates for the women say as many as 120 athletes may have been abused by Nassar after the FBI first heard of the charges against him. The Justice Department has not brought charges against either of the former FBI agents most closely involved in the case. The FBI fired Special Agent Michael Langeman in the last two weeks, FBI Director Christopher Wray later told the panel. Langeman's supervisor, Jay Abbott, previously resigned... I have previously stated, many times in more blunt, unscoutlike language, that all the BSA had to do was turnover all information (files) to law enforcement and let them investigate. Maybe, I was wrong. https://www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1036968966/gymnasts-nassar-fbi-senate-hearing-simone-biles-aly-raisman-wray
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