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    • A few comments.   I have no issue with people scanning records.   If scanned, you need to assume it will exist for a long time ... longer than you planned and ... in more hands than you'd ever expect.  It's unrealistic to expect volunteer parents to cleanly purge records.   It's unrealistic to expect volunteer parents to cleanly follow paperwork procedures.  At least with paper, it's a physical limitation.  Where's the paper ?  It takes space.  It requires explicit hand off.  They don't proliferate without action.  I've found paper records from 20+ years ago.  As I've found old paper records, I've also found old electronic records ... in weird spots.  All it takes is a volunteer change.  One volunteer has one procedure.  The next has a different one.   If your troop changes the volunteer lead for each campout, I'd expect electronic records to spread wide and fast.  Our troop procedure Our SM / camping coordinator shared responsibility for the health forms.   On many trips, there was a two gallon zip lock bag stored strategically in the scoutmasters backpack.  Other times, it was in the troop trailer in a small locked cabinet. Other times, it was with the official medicine person if we had one. Usefulness Hospitals / emergencies ... I've found doctors don't really trust the form in emergencies.  They glance at it, but then need to still do everything.  ... And sadly, I've probably been involved in 5 to 10 ER trips.  ... Thankfully, none in the last four years.   Troop volunteers ... I've found the form most useful to the key adults in the troop to know how to dispense medicine or handle emergencies inside the troop. I find the whole medical form thing to be way more debated / stressed than it really needs to be.  Get a paper copy.  But it in a binder or a zip lock bag alphabetically.  Then, move on.
    • I always thought it was because our events have more trees than power outlets. 
    • something like this is what I would like to do.   But...    
    • How can we make something so simple, so complicated? PDF the forms of the entire troop, Scouts and Scouters.   Put them in a folder, then zip the folder with a passcode. Put it on selected Scouters smartphones for the camp out.  At the end of camp, have the Scouters delete the zip file.  Problem, solved. 
    • I struggle though with how to reconcile the gains and successes we've had as a country in the last 50 years.  Even in my lifetime, I see a noticeable difference in the amount of racism and increase in the amount of equality in our social structures.  I applaud that we continue to focus on rooting out discrimination and racism. Yet, to listen to my teenage kids talk, our country is an awful place full of racists. I don't know how to communicate to my kids with any credibility that we've come so far as a country from what it was 50, 100, or more years ago.
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