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Discussions for OA Members and those interested in Scouting's Honor Society. Also includes a private sub-forum for OA Members only.


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    • Sure is. No one says what the LCs are offering is what will be accepted. In addition several councils I know in their letters of intent to pay into the settlement specifically said it was conditioned on global settlement that includes them (obviously they are not paying if they are not covered). So mediation is totally relevant and the fact that LCs are saying “we will pay X” is not the last word in the subject.
    • A question for our legal team. There have been multiple local news reports of their councils financial contributions to the settlement. The articles are all similarly phrased with a finality tone as to the amount they will contribute.  I can appreciate the Debtor trying to push "a final offer" but  with Chapter 11 mediation ongoing is this permissible? https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2021/09/17/boy-scouts-settlement-2021-mid-iowa-council-pay-victims-child-sex-abuse/8377326002/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/sep/16/inland-boy-scouts-council-contributes-to-national-/  
    • In part,  but my understanding a higher percentage of US Gymnast victims directly reported to law enforcement to no avail. The BSA failed scouts, but Olympian Simone Biles stated in a recent Congressional hearing, "an entire system that allowed his abuse" -  USA Gymnastics,  the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee, and the FBI. ... Advocates for the women say as many as 120 athletes may have been abused by Nassar after the FBI first heard of the charges against him. The Justice Department has not brought charges against either of the former FBI agents most closely involved in the case. The FBI fired Special Agent Michael Langeman in the last two weeks, FBI Director Christopher Wray later told the panel. Langeman's supervisor, Jay Abbott, previously resigned... I have previously stated, many times in more blunt, unscoutlike language, that all the BSA had to do was turnover all information (files) to law enforcement and let them investigate. Maybe, I was wrong. https://www.npr.org/2021/09/15/1036968966/gymnasts-nassar-fbi-senate-hearing-simone-biles-aly-raisman-wray
    • I have.  Its not what I thought it was going to be.   Information was good, execution was pretty poor
    • I totally agree.  OA is not a unit activity.  Not at all.   Except when the CO needs to clarify its position that OA is not a unit activity. 
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