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    • Nothing new to see here. So a scout assigned responsibility of 10k in the troop treasury. He spends it on gear to be properly prepared for some high adventure trips. The skills gained preparing for those trips inspire in him some ideas for a community service project and he mobilizes 700 volunteer hours to complete the project. The scout is publicly recognized for his benefit. Logging those hours, BSA will translate that many hours into a dollar value amounting to about 10k benefit. It has nothing to do with P-R. Any private benefit is balanced by the public good. That is why it is much harder for IRS to go after scouts compared to athletes who raise funds to attend an elite competition.
    • Our Troop has earned the National Outdoor Challenge Unit Award for the last few years (https://www.scouting.org/awards/awards-central/national-outdoor-challenge/). The PDF is still available but it has gone from the awards website https://www.scouting.org/awards/awards-central/ The National Outdoor Challenge Unit Award is a requirement for the Scoutmasters Key Award https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Scoutmaster-Key-23.pdf which is still there.   Anyone know if the award is truly retired or someone just messed up on the awards central website?
    • Agreed.  Some hold this issue as black and white.  I respect their position.  I hold it as grey, and I am comfortable operating in "my" grey area on this one.  Until IRS makes a definitive ruling (and council stops giving us checks for Scouts), that is 😜 
    • I know of at least 3 scouts in my area that have potentially thousands of dollars in their scout accounts, I know of 1 scout that for sure has over 10k. I look at these scout account discussions more along the lines of, when is the IRS going smack a unit, not if. When you look into all of the case law that has been discussed, the public positions, etc ... it's all about the IRS doesn't want the media black eye unless they can really get something bigger than a handful of dollars of abuse. 
    • Yes. Our unit does our own fundraiser.  We also advertise to our Scouts that they can participate in the council popcorn fundraiser with online sales. For those that participate, at the end of the fundraiser, the council gives us a check, with a list of the Scouts participating and how much is allocated to each Scout.  We deposit it in the unit fund and credit their Scout accounts in Scoutbook.  We have a Scout who did this for his first two years with us.  He has not had to pay a single cent for any Scout-related costs, and has plenty of coin left to take him through his next few years. He has learned the value of getting out there and earning his way. And he fully understands that any fundraised money left over when he leaves the Troop goes to the general Troop fund, or is disbursed, as he wishes, to Scouts in the Troop who might need a little assistance.  
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