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    Discussions for OA Members and those interested in Scouting's Honor Society. Also includes a private sub-forum for OA Members only.

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    • As the many months of this whole process have laid bare, there are many counter-intuitive results.  National and insurance companies escaping largely unscathed, while the "totally independent" local councils, say what, "volunteer" to a council, to pay the bulk of National's debt. With respect to attorney's fees, another contra-intuitive result obtains:  attorney's fees are the result of a private agreement between client and attorney and not part of the bankruptcy proceeding, per se. I am not a bankruptcy practitioner, much less an expert, but I recall a local bankruptcy judge mandating maximum fees for individual bankruptcies. But that was many years ago. If bankruptcy judges have the authority to limit attorney's fees, either the judges are not inclined to do so on their own initiative, or no one has filed a Petition/Motion and asked the judge to consider the issue. Being an attorney (I am hoping for a better outcome in the next life) under the circumstances, 40% is obscene. Just my $250,000,000.00 worth.
    • Related, but to be  facilitated by a local council... Mid-Iowa Council Youth Safety Summit Nov 9, 2024 in Des Moines, IA  Glen Pounder will lead panel discussion which includes Mary Wangerin from National's Special Needs Committee. Mary Wangerin co-chaired the Northern Star Special Needs and Disabilities Committee and has been very involved in neuro-diversity training for the BSA. She co-authored with Roger Tate the BSA Inclusion Toolbox for Special Needs and Disabilities. She has  been a production editor of Abilities Digest and website  AbleScouts.org.  https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34059(24)_WB-Inclusion-Toolbox.pdf Unknown if this Youth Safety Summit will be streamed or recorded.  Source: https://scoutingiowa.org/safetysummit/ Content and Schedule: https://scoutingiowa.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Youth-Safety-Summit-At-a-Glance-UPDATED.pdf
    • I strongly suspect there are many others that are innocent. The unfortunate thing is that it costs a tremendous amount of money to pursue any kind of lawsuit against anyone. Most people simply do not have the money. The scout program is completely uninterested in serving justice. They figure it is quicker to just throw out everyone and walk away.  I know of another situation where the scout executive revoked membership of a person after a shoddy investigation. The same executive has said to multiple people that he has no evidence to support various claims but still revoked the membership of the person. Same executive committed some criminal activity to get the person out but continues to serve. Bad deal all around. 
    • Building confidence to overcome anxiety SAVEs another ... Nine-year-old James, who struggles with anxiety, says his recent training in Boy Scouts allowed him to overcome his fear in the moment, call 911, and save his mother's life. “I wanted to join because we have been camping and fishing and doing a bunch of cart racing stuff, and it's a lot of stuff that I like.” After quitting Scouts several times, James decided to come back, and it was at the right time when he learned a life-saving technique just weeks before he would use it. “We practiced calling 911, and they would give us scenarios, and we would kind of say what we would do if that actually happened. Then, a couple of weeks later, my mom had the allergic reaction, so I kind of knew what to do.” And he did.  Both James and his Mom are ok.  Scout salute, More at source: https://www.cnycentral.com/news/local/nine-year-old-overcomes-anxiety-to-save-mothers-life-with-skills-learned-in-cub-scouts
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