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  1. 6 points
    Quality Work As Zero Salaried Employee
  2. 4 points
    Metaphorically taking off the uniform and putting on the "dad hat" my hoodlums made me a number of years ago. Oldest is 95% completed with his Eagle Project. All that remains is to do is get it inspected and approved, present it to the hospital, and the give a presentation on the project to the foundation that is giving him the grant. Basically stuff he needs to do himself. Project was building 2 mobile gaming stations and a mobile gaming library cart with storage for some of the accessories. While not as major as some projects of late, with the exception of dealing with beuracracy, driving, and taking photos, adults have done no work on it. And since powertools were not involved, all members of the troop could help with the project.
  3. 4 points
    Wow, a lot to unpack there. So, here goes: 1. Is there a market for a youth serving organization to place kids outdoors without supervision?: First of all, this is a question a follower asks, not a leader. When Apple created the smart phone do you think they asked "is there a market?" or do you suppose they thought, if we build this we'll create a market. The latter is the thought process of a leader. 2. What would it look like? I don't know, maybe we could ask https://letgrow.org/our-mission/ for advice or maybe just pick up an old BSA handbook. 3. Do I anticipate Mom signing their kid up? See 2 above. They are signing up and being challenged to let their kids do stuff alone. 4. What are the expected outcomes? Character, Leadership, and Citizenship development. 5. How it came to be? This is interesting question. The world is safer now than it ever has been yet youth serving organizations, and society in general, are caught up in a desperate race away from living to just existing in safe spaces. As Mike Rowe suggested in his blog, the world needs BSA now more than ever. Unfortunately, we've accepted the incorrect argument that kids are incapable of doing anything without adult supervision. 6. The authorities in people's lives. This is where the BSA could differentiate itself from the crowd on nanny state nonsense. It requires courage and integrity. Unlike many organizations we get an audience every year with the nation's elected leaders. We should be in their ear every year telling them to stop the stupidity because they are destroying our society. Of course that would require courage and integrity from politicians. Sigh. I had a B-School professor that always scoffed at companies that occupied the squishy middle, taking whatever market share came their way. He was a big proponent of differentiation. The US is currently full of fearful parents raising timid children. We have a choice, submit to the mediocrity they desire, or differentiate ourselves. This story from Reason is a good read. About half way through you'll find a really nice description of the patrol method. We should consider using it. @ParkMan's suggestions would be a good place to start. As for how it goes with my kid, let me tell you a story. My son is autistic. He didn't learn to ride a bike until he was in late grade school. When he did learn he kept asking to ride more and more. After we got comfortable with his skill and ability to handle situations, we let him strike out on the country roads around our home. One day he missed a turn coming home and got lost. When he realized he was lost he found a safe looking country home (after bypassing a couple he didn't like the looks of and getting off his bike to walk because he ended up on a busier highway), knocked on the door, asked if he could use the phone, and called for a pick up. He was upset, his mother and I were panicked. But, when it was all said and done, he realized he could handle a difficult situation. If we had coddled him the way society demands he'd have never learned that lesson. It also happens to be the moment we got him a cell phone, you know, like the kids in the dropping story. The world needs courageous people to say no to the zeitgeist. The BSA can be a leaders or accept whatever crumbs fall to the squishy indistinguishable mediocre middle.
  4. 4 points
    Don't be ashamed. Be proud. Each scout has his own journey. Own yours. ... From what I've read above, I'd be proud to have a scout like you in my troop and I'd be glad to support you in your advancement. If you want Eagle, go for it. ... BUT ... don't stress over Eagle. It's just a rank. The journey is much more important. Building friendships and memories. Having adventures. Learning new things. Also, you have time. My recommendation ... Talk with your scoutmaster or another adult. Get a scout leader on your side who will support your journey. Let them know you need help and that you want to advance.
  5. 4 points
    We get that a lot! The place is vast. But, the black rasberries are in, and it's worth hiking some distance to the sweeter ones. @Sentinel947's scout who works as an EMT at one of the basecamps said that they are out of crutches. But "jamboree" is no joke! The sounds of songs and games and laughter and swapping tales all night are continuous. For my part I calmly go about my day letting everyone know that the best coffee on SBR is at my site. I also mortifying Brits, one site an evening, by demonstrating how to make sun tea in a clear bottle. I get rave reviews: "Is that water cold?" "No milk?" "God. No! Please make it stop!" "That wouldn't be mint tea. That's tea and mint!"
  6. 3 points
    Since I am always standing up for the Chartered Organizations, and saying that the Chartered Organization owns the unit, I would be a little bit hypocritical if I did not take the position that the Chartered Organizations should bear some of the moral responsibility for the abuses that have taken place in scouting. The CO's should have done a better job supervising their unit leaders.
  7. 3 points
    There is one checklist: the trail to First Class. Scouts should master each item on it. For example, no scout should ever think that they only need to present their gear to their PL once for rank advancement.This should be routine at each camp-out. Who has what gear, who needs what gear, and how to balance loads is an essential discussion for every hike and camp. Why? Because adults aren't going to be there to bail them out. Oh, wait, I confused BSA with the European and South American girls and boys who explained to me how their patrols work. Sorry ... Jamboree residual.
  8. 3 points
    B-P and Hillcourt understood that turning a collection of youth into a working patrol required the members to spend time working, playing, and living with their fellow patrol members -- with minimal distractions, support, or interference from outside their budding team. It's hard for a patrol to develop teamwork when the members are continually mingling with members of other patrols and adults are standing over their shoulders telling them what to do. Physical distance from others, especially when engaged in challenging tasks, is a great way for patrol members to build reliance on each other. The benefits of that physical separation can be supplemented and reinforced with patrol meetings at separate times and locations away from the troop meeting, and true interpatrol games (replacing physical distance with competition). A troop really interested in pursuing the Patrol Method could go to a schedule of one troop meeting each month that would include interpatrol competitions (not just troop-wide games or ad hoc teams); three weekly patrol gatherings/activities/skill training sessions (Scout practice) each month at times and locations convenient to the patrol members (with, of course, the required two-adult presence); and the monthly troop outing, but at a location where the patrols would be spread out. Because each patrol would have flexibility in setting weekly patrol gathering/activity times and locations, it could help reduce members' scheduling conflicts. And each patrol would have more time to work together on the specific advancement requirements (or even merit badges) its members need; the particular skill activities its members are interested in (even taking field trips); skills for the monthly interpatrol competition; and preparations for the monthly outing, such as checking gear and taste-testing menus.
  9. 3 points
    Keep in mind that the above reference is to Baden-Powell's Patrol System, not the Patrol Method. Two relevant differences: 1) There are no middle managers in Baden-Powell's "System," no SPL, no ASPLs, no JASMs, no TGs, nor anyone other than Patrol Leaders with a vote in what Americans call the PLC. In other words, ONLY the Patrol Leaders run the Troop. This means that the most gifted outdoor Scouts rise (yes, are appointed to) the position of Patrol Leader, as opposed to the tendency in the USA to regard it as an entry-level "Position of Responsibility." In Baden-Powell's System, there are no POR requirements. 2) For Free Range outdoor kids the "Adventure" of Scouting is to get out on the trail, especially without adult helicopters. This is the fundamental experience in Baden-Powell's system, to get the Patrols out on Patrol -- and likewise for William "Green Bar Bill" Hillcourt's "Patrol Leader Training" http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/index.htm and his Wood Badge http://www.inquiry.net/traditional/wood_badge/index.htm So, one secret "to just stand back and let the magic happen," is to a) Announce a rugged backpack campout. This will weed out kids who are in Scouts just to get Eagle on their resume, as well as their helicopter parents. b) If necessary, let the Scouts divide themselves into two ad hoc Patrols, the more rugged of which will hike to a set destination without adults. The other, usually less mature, might hike a shorter route to the same destination, but with adults trailing a mile or so behind. For the first time, I would appoint the two most gifted natural leaders to the rugged Patrol, and let them work out the actual dynamics between them as they go. Note that the more rugged Patrol will likely include a few gung-ho smaller Scouts. c) At the agreed destination, the two Patrols camp Baden-Powell's 300 feet apart, likewise for the adults At the end of the weekend these members of the Troop (including the adults) will have experienced the Patrol experience that once made Scouting so popular. Now, how to integrate these Scouts into a BSA Troop is a different question 😕 Yours at 300 feet, Kudu
  10. 3 points
    First thing: Wood Badge can be well worth your while because it will teach you the same material they learned at NYLT. I found Wood Badge helpful and I'd already been to NYLT. Otherwise: I like Eagledads advice. Ask them what they learned and want to try in the Troop. NYLT talks a fair amount about creating visions for yourself and your team and creating SMART (Specific, Measurable, Attainable, Relevant and Time set) goals to accomplish that. If they are SPL or ASPL's ask them what their vision is for the troop, what goals they want to set, and as they go along, help them refine their goals and objectives. If they are Patrol leaders, same thing applies, just at the patrol level. If you are a Scoutmaster, you need to create your own vision for the Troop. You can find some sample ones to help you brainstorm by Googling "Scoutmaster Vision Statement." To summarize NYLT as best I can: Each Scout is divided into a patrol of relative strangers. They will each take turns being a patrol leader while the Staff will model all the of the Troop level positions. They'll do by-the-book flag ceremonies, troop meetings and PLC's. Throughout the day they'll attend presentations on leadership skills, communication, values ethics, servant leadership and more. Between and sometimes as part of those presentations they'll play games or complete patrol challenges that force them to grow as a patrol and lead one another. NYLT is not a silver bullet however; Last December I "retired" from my Troop. New Scoutmaster took over in May. I had helped get him up to speed and was pivoting to focus on graduate school. Things have been shaky since because we've done a terrible job recruiting new ASMs for about 4- 5 years and I didn't do nearly as useful a job preparing the new Scoutmaster as I thought I had. Folks have been approaching me and complaining about the state of things, so I've dragged myself back off the bench. The Scoutmaster needs others to handle logistics, communications and other things so he can really focus on the SPL and the PLC. Hopefully the Scoutmaster, CC and I can build and train up that team, so in a year or so I can "retire from the Troop" for good. Last weeks Troop meeting, I was substitute Scoutmaster while the SM was on vacation, I chatted with the SPL and ASPLs. Each had been to NYLT and each had staffed NYLT. I asked two questions. "What problems have you noticed?" and "What changes do you want to see to the troop?" I was encouraged when one pulled out his phone and said "I have a list." They have all these great ideas and goals, but need some help getting from where we are now to where they want to go. Sometimes all they need is encouragement and "If you get stuck come find me." Sometimes they need some direct guidance. The way I try to describe it, my job as a Scoutmaster/ASM is to help the Scouts create a structure. Right now, my troop's youth have a leadership structure of POR's, but no communication structure or practical structure for how tasks get done. When they figure that out, their execution skills thanks to NYLT will be great. My NYLT staff always amaze me at how fast they figure things out, but the SPL's a typically copying the structure they've seen before, and it's a good one. In my Troop, the structure has grown and decayed over the years. I tell that cautionary tale from my Troop not to discourage you from sending your Scouts to NYLT, but to stress that it's not a silver bullet to make your troop. NYLT Scouts still need a structure to operate in and some guidance from the SM and ASM's. When they have it, they'll be exceptional if you let them.
  11. 3 points
    Ask each scout 3 things they learned at the course that they would like to try in the troop. Then sit down with them and develop a plan for working the ideas and goals. That way your are working as a team to improve the program with ideas and skills learned from the course. We asked the SMs to spend an hour with their scout before the graduation ceremony. Barry
  12. 3 points
    After doing Eagle Scoutmaster Conferences for 30+ years, one of the questions I always asked was "When did you decide you wanted to become an Eagle?" And one of the most popular responses was "When I was at so and so's Eagle COH." So it is not only for the eagle candidate. but is a great inspiration for younger scouts. Dale
  13. 3 points
    In my neck of the woods, we call those individuals suckers..
  14. 3 points
    It feel great doesn't it? But, I'm not giving up my Eagledad name. Barry
  15. 3 points
    I agree. I think we should try to avoid labeling a behavior as "bullying". It is far better to identify the actual behavior.
  16. 3 points
    On the occasions when I've had to address these kinds of situations, I do my best to steer the conversation away from the semantics of whether or not the behavior should be labeled as "bullying" or "hazing" or similar. Instead, I try to focus on identifying that the actual behavior that occurred is not acceptable in Scouting, and focus on tangible actions that need to take place to discourage the behavior from happening again. How we label the behavior is less important than recognizing that it is inappropriate and that action needs to be taken to correct it.
  17. 3 points
    Wow, this thread is OLD - I was barely out of high school when this conversation began (it's funny to think that this site is old enough that I could have joined as a youth member had I been more internet savvy then!). Anyway, as long as it's been resuscitated ... 1) Yes, we have a troop neckerchief 2) It's the stock black neckerchief with silver trim 3) It's worn by all the boys under the collar, except for one boy who wears a vintage uniform and so prefers to wear his over the collar to better fit the era of his attire 4) The black and silver go with their patrol emblem, which is a silver knight, and their patrol flag, which is black and white and silver. These are the official colors of our troop 5) They always wear their neckers, even when only the activity uniform is worn (black t-shirt and Scout shorts/socks/belts) 6) All the youth members wear neckers, but none of the adults do except for me (though I am a unit commissioner, so I suppose I am outside the parameters of this survey - but I feel naked without a necker no matter my position!)
  18. 3 points
    Visiting WSJ was a great time! It was the first time I've visited the Summit, and I was able to forget about the debt and it being a financial albatross for a few hours. As a visitor to WSJ it's hard to meet any of the foreign scouts/scouters because they all have activities and such to do. Still the international exhibits were really cool. I had some Francesinha from the Portuguese food tent. It was fattening and so tasty. Met a few scouts and scouters from my council, a few on purpose and a few on accident! Met with @qwazse which as he told his scouts: "I'm off to go meet some stranger from the internet!" Saw the back of Rex Tillerson's head during a dedication ceremony for the Tillerson Leadership center, but Trading Post shopping was more interesting to me than watching the whole ceremony.
  19. 3 points
    Our CO's Pack crosses over in late March / early April as well. From my my observation, the Webelos are eager to join a Troop and their leaders are ready to be done. Personally, I like that extra month to have those crucial consersations about summer camp.
  20. 2 points
    Any chance I can join your troop and go with you? It would be cheaper. Better yet, can I join you for a European jamboree? It would still be cheaper than going to ours.
  21. 2 points
    William "Green Bar Bill" Hillcourt said it best: "Train 'em. Trust 'em. LET THEM LEAD!" The Scouts will be learning how the ideal troop works: youth led with adults providing support. They will be learning the skills needed to make it happen: communication, representing the group, counseling, etc. Here is a link to the 2014 Syllabus https://scoutingevent.com/attachment/BSA358/58960_1449594194_1802.pdf I beleive that there have been some minor changes, but do not know for sure. Either way, it will provide a foundation of understanding for you. IMHO, the hardest part will be letting go of control and letting the Scouts take over. You trained them with ILST, and trusted them to learn more with NYLT. Now you gotta trust them to apply what they learned and lead. It won't be perfect. they will make mistakes but you MUST give them the opportunity to make their own mistakes and learn from them. Some of the things ideas I offer: 1. Make sure the PLC is meeting on a regular basis to plan and prepare. You would be surprised at the number of troops that do not do this. 2. Resist the urge to intervene and take over. If you want to destroy a troop, that is the way to do it. 3. As soon as you are able to, go through Wood Badge. NYLT is Wood Badge for Scouts. In fact staffers can earn their 3rd and fourth beads running NYLT now. CAVEAT ABOUT WB: WB was orignially intended to give adults advance outdoor skills in a Patrol Method environment. While over time it has morphed into a management course, some elements of the Patrol Method survive AND some participants when they return to their units continue to act as if they are in patrols still. OUR JOB AS SCOUTERS IS TO SIT BACK DRINK COFFEE, BUG JUICE, OR COCOA AND ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE SCOUTS AS THEY RUN THEIR TROOP. ( caps and bold are emphasis). 4. Listen to you Scouts' words, and actions! I knew a SM start a new troop and spent about 5 years getting it to completely boy-led. One of the things that helped was at the 3 or 4 year mark, he had Scouts old enough and First Class to go to NYLT. That really helped the troop. The SM stepped down and a new SM took over. The new SM ignored his Scouts, especially the NYLT ones, and ran his own program. He stated to his UC that "BSA needs to change with the times." as the reason why he was not using the Patrol Method, and completely ignoring the Scouts. Some of the Scouts were polite when they talked to him about how he was screwing up the troop. One was right to the point. It didn't matter, he was ignoring everything BSA teaches: planning the meetings and camp outs without the Scouts input, appointing all leadership positions including PLs and SPL, etc. Once the Scouts realized it was useless to talk to him and try to run the troop, they talked with their feet: they left. The older ones Eagled and left. A lot of the younger ones transferred to another troop. So listen to your Scouts.
  22. 2 points
    $24,000?! That's at least fourteen bags of popcorn right there.
  23. 2 points
    We do ZERO fundraisers. Scouts pay annual dues for registration. We charge a nominal fee for monthly outings, basically break even to cover campsite expenses, etc. For summer camp and high adventure that is funded by the Scouts attending. Works for us. In my limited experience the time and commitment to a sales effort is not well spent for the return
  24. 2 points
    My son and daughter at there, in Delta 3. My son had the Francesinha and really wants to make it at home. Both are having a great time meeting peoplpe, trying new food and taking it all in.
  25. 2 points
    If he is really into make lists and deadlines, then stop him from focusing on the RANK. Have him list the knowledge, skills and training he will need to reach each recognition point. Other words, I will camp and make my own tent on my first night under the stars by xxx, 2019. I will volunteer to make the menu and cook the food on the second outing by xxx, 2109. I will earn my whittling chip and fire making skills at next camporee which is on xxx, 2019. I will attend my troops leadership course on xxx, 2020. My first merit badge will be in xxx and will be done by xxx, 2020. He will (hopefully) quickly realize, that if he is involved; advancement happens........
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