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    • My troop was planning to do Sea Base 2022. We are skipping it under the assumption there will be no Sea Base by that point. And our Philmont 2021 trip is the Philmont 2020 trip that got postponed, otherwise we were not planning on doing any HA. We even debated this; when Philmont cancelled last year they offered a full refund. The families involved said they were willing to take the risk that Phimont would NOT be liquidated by July 2021.
    • The Troop is starting to plan for this trip. With all the uncertainty about the BSA's future, if we pay a reservation deposit and maybe even a few payments what happens if there is a liquidation before our trip. Is the money lost?
    • There has been no agreement as to what is minimally required to allow the BSA to continue to operate/function and I would further say the sides are far apart. After nearly a year of Chapter 11:     1. There are ongoing asset evaluations by both sides , however,  there has been no ruling whether local Council assets are on the table.     2. Insurance responsibility (payouts) remains a question.    3.  There is a complete creditor list (guess who is at top of the list)    4. There is a bounded victim list (95,000 which is  far more than estimated) though not yet verified.    5. As I recall, the BSA has a May deadline to present their restructuring plan to the Court. As to the disposition of BSA pensions and health plans in this bankruptcy, that remains to be seen. https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-bankruptcy-of-employer https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ebsa/about-ebsa/our-activities/resource-center/fact-sheets/your-employers-bankruptcy.pdf https://today.westlaw.com/Document/Ie0435490521211ebb50ccd189a1f9b53/View/FullText.html?contextData=(sc.Default)&transitionType=Default&firstPage=true My $0.01 for rambling,
    • The threat was "National" because of the pension factor. As for HA, OA, Councils, they simply said "National" so how broad that is wasn't clear and the Key-3 (really the Council President) who was discussing this was trying to give us as much information as possible without getting in trouble with the lawyers about ongoing legal discussions/negotiations. The idea is what would Plaintiffs (and their clients) rather have? An alive, but crippled, BSA National that can at least pay SOMETHING. Or a liquidated BSA National that has to pay out all pension plans for all former and current BSA employees and THEN give the plaintiffs the scraps.  
    • Liquidate National only or all of the BSA (Councils, high adventure, OA, etc)?
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