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  1. 6 points
    Do we really need to revisit the topic of the highly manipulative surveys that were selectively distributed and strangely worded to ensure a pre-determined outcome? Please don't insult the intelligence of this forum by trying to assert that those bogus survey results were in any way a fair representation of support.
  2. 6 points
    Retired Maryland state trooper Russell Williams suffered a heart attack while Christmas shopping with his daughter. Troop 355 ASM Wes Thatcher responded and started CPR - chest compressions and mouth-to-mouth followed by two shocks from the mall's defibrillator before EMTs arrived. Recovered, Mr. Williams attended a Troop 355 meeting to tell scouts personally the importance of CPR training and thank scouter Wes Thatcher. Video and sources: https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/miracle-at-the-mall-scoutmaster-meets-heart-attack-victim-he-helped-save https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/christmas-miracle-boy-scoutmaster-saves-heart-attack-victim-at-white-marsh-mall Scout Salute
  3. 6 points
    Spot on sir! My triplets and I recently bridged over from Cub Scouts this year, and the former Scoutmaster was grooming me to take over the Troop shortly after he found out I was an Eagle Scout and had 10-years of teaching/applying survival and combat triage skills in the military (*BTW teaching scouts is waaaaay different than teaching soldiers... thank you Wood Badge for pointing that out!). To your point, you are absolutely correct. A lot of the parents tend to "helicopter hover" over their boys and some of the new scout dads don't really know that their sons can't learn to do for themselves if they are not given an opportunity to make mistakes (little life lessons - if you will). "Wow, you're cold and wet because you didn't put the rainfly on correctly? I bet you won't do that again... go grab some wood and make a fire to warm up." "There was a raccoon in your tent last night? Yep, you probably shouldn't have been eating food in your tent and leaving crumbs/trash everywhere." (true story too). As a new Scoutmaster, I've been really emphasizing on the Patrol Method... and I use "esprit de corps" to introduce that little bit of friendly competition between the patrols. Quite honestly, teaching the boys the patrol method and having the troop be "boy run" is the easy part. But... teaching the parents to sit back and watch the boys operate as a cohesive unit... that is definitely much harder to accomplish. Obviously, this is my first year as a Scoutmaster, but I am definitely looking forward to this challenge! Thanks for the post!
  4. 5 points
    As you may know a kidnapped Wisconsin teenager escaped her captor and the first person she found was a retired child social worker Jeanne Nutter walking her dog Henry. Amazing, how at times, there is just the right person or group of people there at the right time when a need arises. She needed to be in a safe place. Safety, Safety, Safety, ... kids need to be safe...ask questions later, talk softly, few questions...dusk off my Child protection skills... no matter what I did that child was going to be safe - Jeanne Nutter. Scout Salute to Jeanne Nutter.
  5. 4 points
    Sad to learn that because it means National lost the understanding of the structure for developing moral and ethical decision makers. Leadership is but one of many actions that develops a scout's character and selflessness. Like the GSUSA, National is actually diminishing the importance of leadership actions by focusing it into an outward personality trait. The reality is that leadership method will have lost it's importance in the development of a scout because now the position of leadership will be a higher priority than the simple actions of the whole team. The result is adults will make sure scouts are put in leadership designated positions. They won't earn the honor, they will be assigned a stature for record. Leadership actions in scouting were intended to shape and enhance character traits, not turn into a personality trait. Few realize that followship actions are just as challenging and as much of a character developer as leadership actions. The actions of Followship are required for a successful team in the patrol method, and a well rounded person with moral and ethical decision traits. What a mess. Barry
  6. 4 points
    Not sure if this is the right place for this: OK so here is my post mortem of the Philmont Winter Adventure trip. Fact: We are from Texas and not accustomed to cold weather. We were a crew of mixed youth with 40% of the youth not knowing the others. 50% of the Adults were mixed and didn’t know the others. Overview: This was an amazing adventure that pushed the youth (and adults) to limits that they never knew they could overcome. They not only survived the experience, they had a fun time doing it. They all would rather not be in a tent in sub-zero weather again and would rather be cabin based during the nights. But this experience taught them how they could survive the elements in a manner they could not have learned without doing it. They all got to attempt to snowshoe, cross country ski, sled, and downhill ski. Sledding and downhill skiing was their favorite activities. Which is not surprising. Day 1: We drove from Austin to Amarillo. https://photos.app.goo.gl/RTbXHwGC6uN76qkH8 We stayed at the Kwahadi museum overnight. There was snow on the ground but it was warm inside. In fact, too warm. Sleeping arrangements where ground pads and sleeping bags on a cement floor. https://photos.app.goo.gl/gvXE3DNsDDHBjoyt5 We ate dinner at the Big Texan Steak Ranch restaurant. The food was meh, but you go there for the experience. It was about $20-30 a head, more that we were looking for but it worked out. https://photos.app.goo.gl/mdQy5u4yMTpYk8dn6 Day 2: We drove from Amarillo to Philmont. Stop at the Subway in a gas station in Springer just off of I-25. That is the last food until Philmont. Don’t ask why I know this….. https://photos.app.goo.gl/NsLUWXZk4nhVpmmg6 Arrival at Philmont, we met our ranger and he guides us through the process. You turn in your paperwork and start the gear checkout process. Philmont provides all the necessary gear so it is pretty easy and they want you to stay alive. After gear check out, you have dinner in the dining hall and then attend a presentation about how to survive in the snow. We started experiencing some crew storming already at this point(Mainly the adults). It is cold and people are starting to get on edge. https://photos.app.goo.gl/rpf9uCYzirJxKxmJ9 You prepare the you gear for the backcountry on the sleds and what stays in the dorms for when you return. Day 3: You do a medical re-check to ensure you will survive. https://photos.app.goo.gl/mLiseiEZpXGbYqPS8 Pack the sleds of gear into the trucks and head out to the backcountry. The eating process begins….. You have two 1-gallon bags of food that you are supposed to continually eat for the next two days, in order to not freeze to death. You will become sick of eating. It is work to continue snacking. I never thought I would say that. After about a 40 minute drive you arrive at the base of the path that you will take to your campsite. You reassemble the gear sleds, don snowshoes, and begin the 2 mile hike up the hill in the snow dragging your gear via a gear snow sled. This is much harder than we expected but we made it to base camp in Miranda just under Mt. Baldy. It was gorgeous! https://photos.app.goo.gl/h1TYE7AcDp7J25ai7 https://photos.app.goo.gl/zzDtEkXs7tWhKBE37 Tents are setup and the snow kitchen is made. By the time this is done, it is almost time to eat dinner and bed down. It is surprising how long it takes to get to this point. Dinner is the only hot meal of the day and it is boiled in a pot and eaten directly from the packaging. It isn’t that bad. https://photos.app.goo.gl/L6NbPjYRPnNiJdCG6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/dUEn5dd7pi7gzqFd6 You boil water and put it in a Nalgene water bottle for warmth. You go to bed at 6pm, because the temperature drops like a rock. You no bundle up in you sleeping bag and all your gear in a tiny tent until 6am when the sun returns. This was the hardest part. It is freezing (-4 degrees), you are trapped in a tiny tent and it is dark and isolated. No noise, no light, no heat…. Some flip out at this point…. (ok, that was me). After the panic and bailing out of the tent for a short time you attempt to sleep again. Now if you look up in the sky while you see the most amazing sky. I personally saw several shooting stars. It is gorgeous and freezing at the same time. Boots were difficult to remove because the shoe laces were frozen together. You fight the urge to tend to natures call because you don't want to struggle with the boots, get dressed, and get out of the tent. You give in and go through the procedure to go. When you can’t sleep like me, you gets some nice night sky pictures. https://photos.app.goo.gl/DQR2fmQH4xtinYyEA https://photos.app.goo.gl/mDAxWep5CmHS93CYA Day 4: You wake up when the sun is out and escape the dreaded tent. You start eating….. again…… https://photos.app.goo.gl/scVPGA4PgHkFV3gX6 https://photos.app.goo.gl/t3wDjqu2Kb7K2TEP7 They begin working on building a Quinzee. While we waited for the snow to settle we tried cross country skiing and headed down the hill to sled. https://photos.app.goo.gl/zVY3MyRRRFQ4tFHHA We joined up with Troop/Crew 464 from Pearland, TX and had a fun time sledding together. We then had a competition against each other showing off our skills we learned on the snow already. We had a relay race that included cross country skiing, snow shoeing, and sledding. Everyone tried their best and had a great time. https://photos.app.goo.gl/yfjhydcdSs3jURbd8 The quinzhee was finished but nobody was brave enough to sleep in it. After dinner, we scurried into our tents for another cold night, this time was warmer at -2. And sleeping was easier this night. Day 5: After waking up we worked together as a team to pack up base camp and load up our sleds. The walk down the hill with the sleds took 1/3 the amount of time on the way up. https://photos.app.goo.gl/rpKFKmmMRk1nGtYa9 Then we headed back to Philmont base camp. Turned in our gear and headed off to go pick up our downhill skis from the ski resort. Made it back to Philmont for a relaxing night in a heated cabin. We slowly thaw and feel everything is too hot, even though it is cold, we have acclimated already to sub-zero temps. Day 6: We headed out early in a morning for a day of downhill skiing. The group took a lesson together and learned the basic skills of skiing. The rest of the day was spent testing out what we learned at Red River Ski resort. The ride back to Philmont was filled with tales of their skiing crashes and laughter. Everyone was very happy. https://photos.app.goo.gl/B2aSZLN61M6Grfi9A Day 7: We visited the National Scouting Museum and saw historical pieces from the start of scouting and OA. It was a pretty cool sight. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dv21VYZrJj5NEpS19 We headed off towards home. We stopped in Amarillo at Cadillac ranch and got to spray paint buried cadillacs. (It is a sanctioned are exhibit that is unique) https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVDNrxgoKBJBXcEM7 That night we stayed at a church in Lubbock. We were guests of Troop 406 that has been around since 1925. They were very welcoming and it was really cool to see the pictures from the many years the troop has been around. https://photos.app.goo.gl/ozDcCjQ8W6hW2mgeA https://photos.app.goo.gl/N5JUSVr4ojBr9gs27 Day 8: We finally drove the final stretch home and finally arrived to our homes and families to tell the tales of our trip. It was a very hard trip for our scouts but it is a trip they will always remember for the rest of their lives.
  7. 4 points
    I so so like the statement. It's dead on right.
  8. 4 points
    Really??!?!? Are you serious? If they changed the Boy Scout book to add some pictures of girls and changed some pronouns you would have went nuts claiming they “changed the program”. They are adding a girls book with picture of girls and adding “she” instead of “he”. They did this in a separate book so they don’t upset the existing boys and their leaders... and that is now an issue? WOW! Perhaps we need to add trigger warnings to any BSA announcements going forward so existing leaders can go to their safe spaces prior to hearing such things like there is a scouts BSA book with pictures of girls or uniform pants that come out and are sized for girls. Oh, the humanity! 😀 There is a lot to complain about but having a separate book (as long as gender is the only delta) makes sense given how they are introducing the program as non coed.
  9. 3 points
    Hello fellow Scouters and thank you for letting me join this forum! I wanted to share something with everyone that I recently created for a group of scoutmasters I met at a University of Scouting event here in the Omaha metro. When my boys bridged over from Webelos the former scoutmaster found out I was an Eagle Scout and military veteran, so he asked if I wanted to take the reins of troop since his sons had made Eagle scout years ago. While I have years of Scouting under my belt and years of experience utilizing my survival skills in Afghanistan, I was very nervous. Honestly, I didn't even know where to start. 1). I wasn't born in Nebraska and didn't grow up here, so I had no clue about the hidden-treasure campsites all of the others seem to know about. 2). Military experience does not somehow magically give someone the ability to train youth. 3). I was now responsible for the lives of 70+ boys during troop activities and campouts. All I can say is... wow! I was completely overwhelmed, so I went back to the basics. What makes the troop run? Answer... the Patrol Leaders' Council (PLC). How can I get 70+ boys on the same page? Answer... a strong Senior Patrol Leader (SPL) that has the Patrol Leaders (PLs) constantly using the Patrol Method. How can I ensure consistency? Answer... develop a Standard Operation Procedure (SOP) that acts as a sort of living-and-breathing pass down book of information. We had a closet of binders with all sorts of outdated information and, of course, there was the sea of online resources out there that was like trying to take a drink from a fire hydrant. That got me thinking about the next scoutmaster... the one after that... so on and so forth. I thought to myself... what is the most simple way to collect and share information? Answer... OneNote. It is a very basic, but very powerful (free) program management tool that is pre-loaded on all Microsoft machines, it is accessible online, and it can be accessed on all smartphones/tablets (it is available for Macs too). So, in keeping with the scouting spirit... I made a public version of the OneNote digital Troop Book I compiled for my Troop and I am wanting to share it with all of you. This is what the SPL uses to help run the show. Now, this is a public version that everyone can use to copy tabs and pages over to their troop's own OneNote file... but feel free to add tabs and information to this public version. https://1drv.ms/f/s!Alr8Y5Jfi-zJhJJB7gi6h9RKI_o-ug I know some folks aren't familiar with OneNote, or how to even copy pages from this public version to a private version for their own troop, so I created a sort of "how to" instructional video. Up front, I am not a professional narrator... and I was kind of just winging it... but here is the URL to the instructional video... https://youtu.be/bWdN0jjrnj8 Overall, there are a lot of changes happening in scouting... so our focus needs to be on delivering a quality training program to the scouts in our community. For those that are new to scouting and don't know where to start... I hope this helps get you on the right path.
  10. 3 points
    I'm not sure if you're trying to make my point for me, or rebut. 🤣 Either way. My point is that there are much bigger and more powerful forces at play than just "The Improved Scouting Program Sucked." Which I believe it did hurt Scouting. I don't believe it was a decisive as some folks make it out to be. I could be wrong, and I am generalizing, but it's my understanding that the BSA is less successful in the inner cities as it is in the suburbs and rural areas of America. That's not to say there aren't strong pockets of Scouting in urban areas, or areas where there are significant non-white membership. That's also not to say there's something wrong with white people being the majority of membership in the BSA. It would follow that since the US is majority white and historically has been, and the BSA plays host to many generational families of Scouts, that the BSA would be majority white. The BSA doesn't publish member demographics that I could find easily, but they do publish data on "Available youth." Notice that for the millennial and generation X folks, the ones who are having Scout age children now, are less likely to white than their previous generations. You can find that stat on page 22 of the report. Almost a 10% drop from Boomers to Millenials/Gen X, which would make up the last 20-30 years or so of Scouting youth. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/media/ES_American_Households.pdf This data is for the late 2000's early 2010's. US Demographic data over time can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographics_of_the_United_States In short, my argument is that the BSA is primarily a less urban, majority white organization, that many immigrants and non-whites don't feel a particular connection to. Give the decline in birth rates, stagnating of white population in the US, increasing urbanization, and population growth via immigration of non-white people, the BSA has failed to adapt in far more ways than just the poorly thought out "Improved" Scouting program. There's an element of failure to market the program to people who aren't part of that core constituency. That's not to say the BSA hasn't tried, but I'd argue that they've failed. That's both a BSA failure, and local leadership failure to broaden the tent and recruit a more diverse membership. We can see by Scouting's global reach, that Scouting's message and ideals are about as close to universal as we could hope for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Organization_of_the_Scout_Movement_members Combine that with all youth organizations in the US facing membership declines, slap on some poorly managed sex abuse, some culture war controversy, and it's pretty easy to see how the BSA's decline in membership is multifaceted and complex. It's far too simple to say "Improved Scouting Program killed the BSA.There's a bunch of variables and those things may or may not be a significant contributing factor.
  11. 3 points
    They're scouts. I doubt they'll smell sweet.
  12. 3 points
    As a former CC & CM, this is 100% correct. The decision on who is an adult volunteer is up to the CC & COR. If either of your rejects a volunteer - it's done. Since you both don't want him to be CM - this is easy - he's not the Cubmaster. You don't need anyone's permission to reject him - it's your call.
  13. 3 points
    You as CC and the COR are both responsible for approving all adult leaders in your unit. Since you're both on the same page that this person should not be your CM, and it sounds like there are some red flags that would pop up on a background check, this should be a short meeting. You need to let this person know that their services are no longer needed. Inform your DE and unit commissioner of your decision. But ultimately the decision is all on you. Your council will let you know that this is a matter between you, your chartered organization, and the individual who wants to be your Cubmaster. They still, though, need to be kept in the loop on what is transpiring. The council would get involved only if this application ever made its way to the registrar's desk with all that missing information. Because this person has not had his application approved by you and the COR, submitted to council, or had a background check passed, he should not be at meetings attempting to perform the duties of a Cubmaster. His actions alone should disqualify him: he refused to sign the religious principles declaration, refuses to authorize a background check, and I'd be willing to bet he hasn't taken YPT. He needs to be informed that his services are no longer needed.
  14. 3 points
    My default answer is maybe.....Here's what I believe the requirement states (from https://oa-bsa.org/about/membership): Have experienced 15 nights of camping while registered with a troop, crew, or ship within the two years immediately prior to the election. The 15 nights must include one, but no more than one, long-term camp consisting of at least five consecutive nights of overnight camping, approved and under the auspices and standards of the Boy Scouts of America. Only five nights of the long-term camp may be credited toward the 15-night camping requirement; the balance of the camping (10 nights) must be overnight, weekend, or other short-term camps of, at most, three nights each. Ship nights may be counted as camping for Sea Scouts. Now, beyond the fact the final clause could be interpreted to mean any camping is acceptable for the 10 nights, (it specifically doesn't say BSA), the Cub family camp is clearly BSA. My decision point would be this, if they were along to help with the camp out, putting on an event, cooking, even participating/being an example to the Cubs, I'd be inclined to say yes they count. If they were drug along by mom and/or dad and spent the weekend playing on their phones, I'd say no.
  15. 3 points
    My favorite answer to this: *(( The true author of this article is unknown. It is here copied from the COME HOSTELING newsletter, Sept. 1980, of the Potomac Area Council of the American Youth Hostels, who received it from Dick Schwanke, Senior PAC Staff Trainer, who read it in the APPALACHIAN HIKER by Ed Garvey, who got it from the Potomac Appalachian Trail Conference Bulletin, which quoted it from THE RAMBLER of the Wasatch Mountain Club of Salt Lake City, which reportedly cribbed it from the I.A.C. News of Idaho Falls, which reported it from the 1966 PEAKS & TRAILS. I offer it here for your enjoyment and inspiration. Note that some of the ingredients are a bit dated. Adjust as necessary. Enjoy!)) "Courageous Cookery" by John Echo* Once the convert backpacker or cycle camper has accepted the subtle gustatory nuances associated with sustained operations beyond the chrome, he should try the advantages of ultra fringe living so that he will realize what he is paying for his nested pots and pretty pans carried so diligently and brought home so dirty after every "wilderness experience". The following system works. It is dependable and functional. It works on the big rock. It even works when the weather has gone to hell, you are wet and cold and the wind is blowing down the back of your hairy neck. It is not for the timid. It consists of a stove, a six inch sauce pan, a plastic cup and a soup spoon. If you insist on a metal cup, you must never fail to mutter "I'm having fun, I'm having fun", every time you spill the soup on your sleeping bag. Breakfast: Instant wheat cereal-- sugar and powdered milk added-- ready two minutes after water boils. Eat from pot. Do not wash pot. Add water, boil, and add powdered eggs and ham. You'll never taste the cereal anyway. In three minutes, eat eggs. Do not wash pot. Add water or snow and boil for tea. Do not wash pot. Most of the residue eggs will come off in the tea water. Make it strong and add sugar. Tastes like tea. Do not wash pot. With reasonable technique, it should be clean. Pack pot in rucksack and enjoy last cup of tea while others are dirtying entire series of nested cookware. Lunch: Boil pot of tea. Have snack of rye bread, cheese and dried beef Continue journey in 10 minutes if necessary. Dinner: Boil pot of water, add Wylers dried vegetable soup and beef bar. Eat from pot. Do not wash pot. Add water and potatoes from dry potatoe powder. Add gravy mix to taste. Eat potatoes from pot. Do not wash pot. Add water and boil for tea. Fortuitous fish or meat can be cooked easily. You do not need oil or fat. Put half inch of water in pot. Add cleaned and salted fish. Do not let water boil away. Eat from pot when done. Process can be done rapidly. Fish can even be browned somewhat by a masterful hand. Do not change menu. Variation only recedes from the optimum. Beginners may be allowed to wash pot once a day for three consecutive days only. It is obvious that burning or sticking food destroys the beauty of the technique. If you insist on carrying a heavier pack, make up the weight you save with extra food. Stay three days longer.
  16. 3 points
    Anyone still mess kit cook? With the starting of a new troop for Girls, with no startup funds, I was going suggest all the girls get metal mess kits (maybe field trip to the closest army surplus) and teach them how to cook over the fire.
  17. 3 points
    MattR The OA no longer exists. All vestiges of the OA need to be removed and packed away. Scout troops will only prosper if they have dynamic programs planned by the scouts, supported by the adults. Yes, the patrol method. Recruitment for the troops will come from packs that like your program. Word gets out. It always has. Friends of the scouts can be recruited as well. But don't promise them adventure, if all you do is sit through endless advancement classes. As far as service to our camps (like the OA used to provide), have planned and announced work weekends at scout camps maybe three times a year ought to do it. Open it to all scout members who have dads that will drag them out to camp and work. Should be fun. The spirit is gone. sst3rd
  18. 3 points
    Eagle, I recall the ISP well. I crossed over from Webelos to my first troop in 1974, right near the start. Ah, the anemic handbook...pajama-like uniforms...scouters and older scouts quitting in disgust...new Eagles upset over the overhaul of the Eagle patch, which went from the traditional design to the stark "chicken in the mess kit with red/white/blue grease".... My camping MB from '76 has the non-required border. I was in four different troops in the '70s. Military family. My various scoutmasters had their foibles but they all believed in getting the troop outdoors as much as possible. Especially our troop in Alaska. Minimum one weekend camping a month, no weather cancellations. Two campouts in December: the regular camping/backpacking trip, and one for the older scouts above the tree line with ice axes, crampons, etc. I'm rambling, but my point is there were enough traditional/outdoor-minded scouters back then to guide us through the ISP until GB Bill was called out of retirement to fix the mess. A troop that camps regularly is a troop that is alive. If there is no hiking, camping, backpacking, boating, and fishing, what is the point of all this? An agenda of exclusively attending meetings and classes and occasional car-camping will not sustain an organization like the BSA for very long.
  19. 3 points
    Yep, I remember. I had to earn first class the old way Morse code included. Took about two years in my triip as a rule. Im still very proud of my rectangular rank badge. As a den leader I took my cubs on short hikes and on a whim showed them some of the old trail signs we used to use. The ones using rocks, sticks, or even grass. They were just ecstatic , Super secret woodsy Scout signs! Yay! The lesson seemed simple. Give them what they want. So I started teaching more Woodcraft, edible plants, animal tracks, stars, tree identification they loved it. Crafts were reserved for cold rainy days. I have two sons who are both engineers and Eagles. They think the stem program is the dumbest thing scouting has ever done. But then they weren't Scouts in 73.
  20. 3 points
    I agree. I want my sons in scouts because of the outdoor aspects. Outdoors is the meat of the program. Arts, tech, STEM, leadership, etc can be explored in many channels (academic teams, robotic teams, etc). Outdoors is the special part. I view the merit badges and awards as a really good side dish, but it's not the meat of the program. BSA's competitive advantage is the outdoor program. Camping, hiking, cycling, shooting, etc, etc. For me as a parent, it's also the draw. I want my sons to be comfortable in parks, camping, etc. I really don't think they would grow that comfort and skill through my wife and myself. I view BSA as opening up many possible future experiences in their future.
  21. 3 points
    I'm with @skeptic: one law (as referenced in the Oath) with 12 points.
  22. 2 points
    Maybe @LeCastor and @WisconsinMomma can recruit her? I'd like to think that we scouters are supplying more people like her through Scouting - the Scout Oath and Law, YP, character building, good citizenship,... Ms. Nutter kept her head and followed her training while knowingly putting herself between a fleeing teenager and her kidnapper(s) who murdered both the teen's parents. Very Brave. Well done.
  23. 2 points
    I’d report this event to the local council Advancement chair and if applicable, the host council Advancement chair. What is described is simply not acceptable. At an out of district event once, I was asked to “teach” and sign off on a MB in two hours. I asked coordinator if he was nuts. He told me this was what they promised the youth. i told him goodbye.
  24. 2 points
    The BIG Problem is ultimately the difference in desire. The adults want "Character Development". That's where the Goals came from. Eagle equals college scholarship, job advancement, higher initial rank in military. The BSA (Irving, Councils, Professionals) want "Numbers" (do they get a commission?). I think this is where the "eight methods " came from. Seems like all organisations want/need to quantify and define and list and point to. Last I was told, DEs are judged, not by the number of Scouts enrolled, but by the number of new UNITS. Where did that come from? The kids want the adventure and camaradarie , or they don't join. Or stay. Why join a group that wants to hike and camp and rock climb and canoe and get dirty if you don't (want to hike and camp and...)? And if you DO, why stay in a group that doesn't? STEM and Explorer posts not withstanding.... Can we say that the original Scouting (B-P, Seton, Hillcourt) that was "discovered" and chartered, was defined as #3 above with the assumption that #1 and #2 would follow almost automatically ? So how do we get back to land of Christopher Robin and Pooh ?
  25. 2 points
    We leave on our adventure on New Years Eve and will arrive on New Year's Day. We will be in one the first crews of the year 19-0101-01. My son and I are excited, as is the best of crew. We are so looking forward to the trip. Snow shoeing, cross country skiing, quinzee building, downhill skiing, and sledding. I know many are down on scouting and think that scouting has lost it's focus on outdoors. I don't see that, scouting is like everything in life. It is what you make of it. Sailing in the Florida keys at Sea Base this year, first backpacking trip, learning to sail and joining Sea Scouts. And attending World Jamboree this summer. All these experiences are there because of scouting. The kids wanted to go see snow and chose to got camping at philmont in the winter. I get to experience sleeping in 3 degrees...... What was I thinking.... Wish me luck 🙂
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