scoutldr

LOL..reminds me of the time when I was Cubmaster and a parent called to demand to know when meetings were going to start. I said, "as soon as you volunteer to become a Den Leader"...she got furious and demanded to speak to my "supervisor"...so I handed the phone to my wife.

I hear Ivory league is the way to go. The kids come out squeaky clean....maybe even SCOTUS material.

"Momma" shouldn't be doing any of it...these are BOY SCOUTS. (Just wanted to echo the other strong opinions above!)

Establishing a "club" with initiation "trials" is defined as "hazing" and is strictly prohibited (except for Order of the Arrow which is sanctioned by BSA and strictly monitored by adults). While I would have handled it differently, I will not second guess the adults who were there.

Historically, ALL of these aquatics patches (BSA Lifeguard, Aquatics Instructor, Mile Swim, Snorkeling, etc) go on the swim suit.

Unless it's changed, MBC are registered with the Council and do not need to be a member of a unit.

Simply explain to the parents that the BSA is a "binary" organization..."male" or "female"...there is no provision for other "identities" or "no identity". Let them discuss it with their child and let you know what they decide. If they don't like your answer, give them the number of your SE. What does not seem "right" to me is that society has deteriorated to the point that we have to have this discussion at all...especially as volunteers who are simply trying to help out.

Tell his parents that if he does not ""identify" as a boy, he is not eligible for membership. If he chooses to "identify" as a girl, he will have to wait until girls are admitted. Those are the only two choices available to them at the present time. Sheesh.

Reminds me of a lesson we were taught in Lutheran confirmation class in 1968. It is incorrect to call your church "St. John's Lutheran Church". The correct title is "St. John Lutheran Church." We don't have churches owned by Saints. They are all God's Churches. The Catholics disagree, apparently.

He wasn't just a few hours or days short of the requirement...he was TWO MONTHS short. He and everyone else knew this at his Life BOR and it should have been a topic of major discussion at that time. Sorry...the requirements were not met.

I don't care how many knots and doo-dads he has on his uniform. He's not "getting it". He needs to go.

Don't know when you made Eagle, but yes, times are different. We did a LOT of things back in the 60s and 70s without proper training that would make today's BSA lawyers apoplectic. The rules are there for a reason...to prevent kids from dying and to prevent you from losing all your worldly goods in a lawsuit. Your attitude scares me. Please get training and memorize the latest copy of the Guide to Safe Scouting (free online). It's for your own good, mate.

If you don't have current training in Safety Afloat and Safe Swim Defense (and preferably BSA Lifeguard), and don't know what you are doing, choose a different activity. Heed the above advice. Welcome to the discussions.

His treatment of the youth is clearly bullying. A clear Youth Protection violation. Report it as such. go directly to the Scout Executive...do not deal with the troop leadership any longer, since they are clearly incapable/unwilling to handle it. This man obviously has anger issues and needs to be removed from Scouting...permanently.

Then we're done here. Good luck and God bless.