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  1. scoutldr

    Denied a court of honor.

    Well the final hole is: If you reported the YP violation to Council, and got no results, WHY did you keep subjecting your son (and yourself) to the bully for years? Tell the SM...and the SE in a firm letter exactly why you are leaving and find a new Troop that follows the Scout Oath, Law and YP requirements. I dunno...something doesn't smell right.
  2. scoutldr

    Denied a court of honor.

    OK, I have to say this. You say you were a volunteer in Cub Scouts for 7 years. Thank you for serving. No doubt you took the required Youth Protection training which addresses the BSA's zero tolerance policy on bullying. You also assert that your son was constantly bullied by adults in his Troop the entire time he was a member. Did YOU report this to the Scout Executive as required by the YP requirements? If not, why not? The BSA has procedures in place for handling bullies and it should have been nipped in the bud. I'm not trying to cast accusations...just trying to close some holes in your saga that are gnawing at me.
  3. scoutldr

    Denied a court of honor.

    The Scout is an Eagle...the EBOR was convened and he passed. His application was approved by the SM, the Troop Committee Chair, District, Council and National and he has his certificate and medal in hand. All this pontificating about a "valid" EBOR is moot. The only remaining question is why the jerks on the Troop Committee and SM are denying him a Court of Honor.
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    Denied a court of honor.

    There are too many unexplained incongruences going on here. And I perceive a terminology problem. I suspect that when mich first said "council" they meant "troop committee". A COH should never be denied for "financial or time constraints"...have a potluck...spend a few bucks for paper plates. Our COH's were always conducted at NO expense to the troop. And what troop is so active that they can't carve out an hour for a COH? The allegation of "discrimination" still bothers me, while offering no reason for that perception. Is the Scout gay? Black? Muslim? Purple? Avowed atheist? None of those are valid reasons for denying a Scout anything after his Eagle rank has been approved by National. Were there behavior (Scout Spirit" issues? If so, then the Eagle SM Conference should have addressed that. Too many questions. And, as usual, we are only getting one side of the story. At this point, my recommendation would be to have your ECOH...plan it yourselves and invite who you want. THere are plenty of "templates" for ECOH online. Have your celebration and get on with your lives. Yes, you and your son deserve an explanation, but I doubt you will get it.
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    New den leader

    Wear the knots proudly!
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    Sea Scouts

    My dad was a WWII submarine veteran. I learned from a very early age that submarines are "boats"...everything else is a "target".
  7. scoutldr

    Looking for some insight

    One aspect I am still not clear on. At camps I have attended, "visitors" (even parents) who are not registered campers, must check in at the camp "office" and show ID, then get a wristband to show that they have been admitted. They cannot (or should not) be able to just park their car and then go wandering around looking for their kid. If this procedure was not followed, I would consider that a YP issue and needs to be corrected. It is also unclear to me if the Scout was part of a troop attending camp, or was a "provisional" camper? One cannot just show up at camp and pay your money on the first day. Was he not registered in advance, at which point the custody issue should have been clearly identified on the application?
  8. scoutldr

    Looking for some insight

    Sorry, but we will have to agree to disagree. Your court order does not bind ME to do anything as a volunteer, other than possibly to report a YP issue to the Scout Executive. IN hindsight, perhaps the dad should have had this discussion with the SE prior to camp so the SE could have a contingency plan in place.
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    Looking for some insight

    I will be blunt...I don't think this is the Camp staff's problem. As volunteers, we are not privy to custodial orders, nor are we in a position to enforce them. This is something you need to work out with the boy's mother and the Court. Perhaps a restraining order is called for.
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    Denied a court of honor.

    I agree with @quazse. A CoH is a troop function, however, the Scout and his parents "design" the type of ceremony they want, coordinate with the troop as to cost, etc, and who will be invited. I also agree with the above, not enough info for us to draw conclusions...what is the "rest of the story"? You allege discrimination...on what basis do you suspect this? If all else fails, you can contact your District Advancement Committee, and coordinate the CoH with them, requesting a representative from Council to make the presentation, be a speaker, etc. Not sure about having a "right" to a CoH, however, I can see no reason not to have one if that's what the Scout wants. The Troop's membership may participate, or not, as they wish, for whatever reason.
  11. scoutldr

    Louisville (KY) - Explorer Post Abuse Scandal

    The ages for Exploring used to be 14-20...has that changed?
  12. scoutldr

    Is this the new normal?

    Interesting reading, RichardB. As a 40-year OSH professional myself (CIH and former Director of the ABIH), I understand the need for rules and clarity in writing them. Unfortunately, the BSA is not always good at stating what they mean, and materials are often not cross-walked for consistency. But even for me, the rule against using wheelbarrows and electric screwdrivers is hard to justify. And I have always assumed that the prohibition of laser-tag was based not on the "hazards" of the activity, but on the optics of Scouts acting out "war" and "shooting" of other human beings. As kids, most of us boys played "Army" and "Cowboys and Indians" using toy guns and dramatic theatrics of killing and being killed. Such activities are no longer politically correct and thus prohibited. But don't cloak the prohibition as some sort of safety issue. And I do take exception with the implication that these rules now apply to "non-scouting" activities. Just because I carry a BSA membership card in my wallet, doesn't mean I or my sons am bound by the G2SS while "off the clock". If that is not what BSA intended, then let's refer back to the clarity issue mentioned above. In reading the CDC incident report, it is evident that the cannon used was not designed or manufactured to be fired, but as a decorative piece. Someone modified it by boring the barrel an drilling a touch-hole, with predictable fatal results. Hopefully, this was an isolated incident, but I understand the need for the rule. As far as clarity is concerned, perhaps BSA could follow the style of OSHA in writing rules..."Should" means it's prudent and recommended..."Shall" means mandatory. And God help the leader who chooses not to follow a "Should" and something bad happens. All that being said, I recognize the tough job you have and appreciate your efforts. Along with increasing tendency to litigate over the slightest injury and refusal to recognize that zero-risk is unattainable, and the concomitant decrease in common sense amongst the younger generations, it's a tough job.
  13. scoutldr

    New and comprehensive Family scouting FAQs issued:

    Well said, Mate. I don't consider my International friends as "interlopers"...we are all Brothers (and now Sisters) in the great Movement called Scouting. I was around when much the same discussions were held regarding racial integration. We survived. I was also around when females could hold no role except Den Mother. We survived the change and are stronger for it, in my opinion. And, more recently, we weathered the storm regarding LGBTQ membership. I foresee the day when we accept Atheists as well, to provide them with the same love, guidance and growth experiences that we provide other youth. After all, isn't that what the Bible has commanded us?
  14. scoutldr

    The need for personal liability insurance

    They would have a hard time proving it happened in the Scouting environment.
  15. scoutldr

    McDonough, GA gunfire reported at Cub Scout campout

    They could tell it was an AR-15 from the sound? Impressive.