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    Retired Transit Street Super. Bus driver, Sub teacher. Rough Carpenter.
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    Quaker Jambo Chaplain, canoeing, Historic Trail Guide, RTCommish, Train Bus Drivers for Yearly Meeting Summer Camp.
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    Born young, realized I had to get old, but did not have to grow up.

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  1. SSScout

    "Serious" campfire skits/songs?

    Here is one for your story teller. Do not forget the "gestures".... https://www.dropbox.com/s/payrxfpcrx3khqo/skitoldchief.docx?dl=0
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    "Serious" campfire skits/songs?

    Calion, your point is well taken. What might be sought is a good story teller. A Scout Aesop, or Chief Longinthetooth (as he was known back when). Or even Mr. Scouter. Many the time, we heard a story recited from a Native American background, or the Campfire Ash Tradition, told from a history/ecology/memory perspective. Ernest Thompson Seton recorded many "stories with a moral" that are written long, but can be shortened by a talented story teller. Anansi the trickster of west Africa makes a good moral lesson story. Look to your library for these. A Scouter walking before a campfire, telling a story well, pointing and challenging the Scouts, can be the cap to a otherwise "just another funny campfire". Robert Service wrote poem/stories for just this purpose.
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    Unit Money Earning Application

    "It depends". Popcorn, campcards are already "approved" by the BSA and your Council. You sell them, you (and the Council) make money. The Fund Raising Approval Form is intended to make sure you are not stepping on any legal toes. It does not depend on BSA branding per se, but on other possibilities. Your Unit can do what they think best , but by doing the FRA form, you can get the official imprimatur that your idea is good to go. The back of the form lists some good things to check: No gambling, no raffles, value gained for money given, no soliciting donations, that sort of thing. "A Scout is thrifty. He earns his way...." Another consideration is always that , when your unit does a "private" fund raiser, the Council makes no money. This is a consideration, this is why Council works with the big corps for their charity, helps prevent camps being sold, etc. So, car wash, pancake breakfast, mulch sale, Holiday décor sale, yard raking, flag installation and retrieval, spaghetti super, what will it be ?
  4. Yep. Accuracy in reporting.... "First lady Melania Trump went rafting with Scouts, forth Graders who were not Scouts, several Secret Service agents, numerous media types, a few river guides and various incredulous tourists....."
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    Teaching basic overnight camp comfort - Suggestions?

    Ahhh the vagaries of human perception. Once upon a time, this Scouter in his pre Scouter time, was a freshman Marching Band member in Purdue University . In 19 and 66, Purdue had the privilege of attending the Rose Bowl football classic by dint of Ohio State having come in 1st in the Big Ten for the second year in a row, so the second place Boilermakers got the invite. Long story short, The Marching Band had a World Class half timeshow to plan and provide. So we did. After visiting home(s) for Christmas, we gathered in the Chicago Train Station to board the last of the UP Super Chiefs ( a chartered train !) , we left Chicago the 26th of December with 2 feet of snow on the ground (at least!) and 15 degrees F. Pretty normal, we thought, for Chicago in December. We arrived in California, set up camp in the USC dorms, and fell out to the field to practice our tunes . We wore t-shirts and shorts, and were surprised to see our audience wearing heavy coats, gloves and scarves. They were experiencing a "cold snap" according to the radio. 60 degrees. A cold snap. Ah me.
  6. Well, of course the modern kid needs instruction in Schmartphone operation. Right. What is needed is the simple adventure of the old Greenbar Bill stuff. When the nascent First Class can't tie a good bowline, but still wants to go camping (with no signal?) , one can grow melancholy about the old Boys' Life mags that showed how to make a tent stake or even sew a home made tent. Last time I camped with my old Troop, it was cold at 6am, and nobody but me was out priming the stove for boiling some water. Us adults had a warm oatmeal and egg breakfast while the Scouts tried to remember who signed up (or was assigned?) to get breakfast ready. "Mr. SSScout, how did you get breakfast ready so fast?" Well, I was the Breakfast fellow. Who had your duty?
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    Parking cars as fundraiser. over $25K (NE)

    There was a local Troop, worked for the County Fair. I do not know all of the financial arrangements, but for the week of the fair, they directed parking lot traffic, collected tickets, delivered ice, watched the intersections (they had Fair radios) . Last year (this past summer) they were told they could not do this any more, and so that was the last Scout sponsored activity at the fair. Another situation, which I have mentioned here before, a local Troop (LDS, actually) made arrangements with a local Museum that holds a LARGE annual festival fund raising for the Museum. They directed cars in the Parking lot, and put out abucket with attached sign asking (!) for donations in return for their directing... When I mentioned this to the SM as perhaps against BSA policy about fundraising, he basically hemmed and hawed. I mentioned it to the DE, who also hemmed and hawed. When I mentioned this to the Museum, perhaps the Museum would pay the Troop directly for their efforts, thus they would "earn" the funds rather than asking for "donations", I was reminded this was a fund raiser. On the other hand, they were paying the local Council a fee for use of the Mobile Climbing Wall that other Scouts were staffing for free (and SSL hours). It gets complicated, don't it?
  8. Many kids avoid reading . Many, not all by any means, assume things. I watched a young lady who was working in our Meeting kitchen during a PotLuck. She wanted to plug in an appliance and could not get it to work. There was a sign , very clearly stuck over the outlet reading "Broken, Not Working". An adult pointed this out to her, she looked at it for maybe five seconds and said "oh", pulled the plug and used a different outlet. Another time, when I was a sub teacher, I think 7th grade English, I printed the instructions on the White Board in 6 inch letters, and told the class, "Here is what your regular teacher left for you to do. If you have any questions, raise your hand, I'll come by and help." One of the kids actually asked, "what are we supposed to do?" Not wanting to overly insult anyone, I went to him and asked what he didn't understand. He said, "Miss Smith always tells us what to do, we never have to read it". So I read it to them. I do not think it was a vision problem. Scouts: MeritBadge Book? Nope. Give me the Worksheet. HandBook? Show me, I shouldn't HAVE to read about it and figure it out myself. Sic semper Gloria.
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    Troop Bottle Drop Theft Solution? (NY)

    Interesting. A location that still has a "deposit" on bottles. Our county has universal recycling, so all bottles, cans, etc. get picked up at the curb. Back in pre history, back in the days of "Paper Drives" and no official recycling I was "the dad with the pick up truck" for my daughter's school. They collected aluminum cans for recycling at the metal yard. I remember packing crushed AL cans into big plastic trash bags for week or two, and then packing them into my truck (which had a cap top) and sometimes I would have as much as two tons of cans ! Down on the springs! Might bring back $30 or $40. depending on the market..... On to the teacher's fund....
  10. Oh. I like that definition. I will use that.
  11. SSScout

    Merit Badge Workshops and Universities

    Waaay back when. I was a Scout. The Troop was very active, and concerned mostly with outdoor adventure. Our Necker had a big patch on it that read "Always On The Go". The older Scouts went to Philmont every year with tarp tents that they made themselves ! The Patrols were mixed age, encouraged to go on hikes and do things as a Patrol. The Troop went campouting once a month regardless of expected weather. That was my introduction to Scouting. I made a plastic tarp tent, and learned from the older Scouts and Scout adults and The Handbook For Boys how to keep body and soul together on hikes and campouts. The Troop even held their own Summer Camp several years on a private property, built a log cabin three sided shelter for the Quartermaster…. The difference was, on hindsight, the fathers many of whom were war veterans of Korea and WW2 even. They wanted their kids to be self sufficient. Even the Scouts from more urban areas I met were more into (onto?) outdoor going places doing things. "Things have changed". Then a new kid joined the Troop. He announced (!) that he would be an Eagle Scout in less than 3 years, he had "done the math" (back then, you were required to BE in a rank for a certain time before advancing). WELL... us older Scouts (by then I was an "older Scout") suddenly realized, THAT might mean this new kid could be the first Eagle in the Troop! (Troop at that point was only 8 years old ! ) So we talked and conspired. How do you earn Merit Badges? Counselor? We had only earned such things at Summer Camp. Okay, the Council had the Merit Badge Counselor list. Phone calls. Parents taking Scouts to visit men we didn't know. I visited a retired NACA engineer, he was one of only two Aviation MBCs, in Virginia to earn the Aviation MB. So. The "new kid" came to be a pretty good Scout, but he was, ultimately, the THIRD Eagle Scout in our Troop. Point being, that , back then, A Scout had to WANT the Merit Badge. There were no "Merit Badge Days", no MBColleges. The MBCounselors were few and far between. If " A Scout Is Trustworthy", and the requirements for the MB are held to the standard, I have no problem with that. The previous story about the Leather Working MB is, I fear, typical. In like manner, the MBCounselor has to WANT the Scout to meet the requirements. It is, I think, a good thing that Life Saving MB cannot be done at the usual MBCollege. The idea of "Participation" awards are typical. Many kids nowadays (and their parents ?) expect to "show up and get the patch". Once, when I staffed the Cub Scout Day Camp Scout Skills pavilion, the Camp Director said, "and of course the Cubs will learn these eight knots and pass their rank...." I replied certainly not. In a 50minute session, they will be lucky to learn rope safety, handling and MAYBE 4 knots, learn them and be able to tie them when needed! The CSDC Director was AGHAST ! Not pass all the requirements? I said "it depends".... and we left it at that. When she passed me the "activities done and requirements passed " sheet at the end of camp, I again had to say, no, they did NOT learn these knots, don't say they did. "but the parents expect... ? " Doesn't matter, here is what actually happened.... The activity sheet was corrected at least for my station. That year. To be a part of the system, one must insist that the standards be met. There's that bothersome idea again, is a First Class Scout from fifty years ago the same as a First Class Scout of today? Yes and no. My First Class badge included Morse Code , Scoutson (Eagle 2010) and I discussed this. Other things have changed. But part of Scouting has to be the ability to "be prepared" to do things the OLD way when the MODERN way doesn't work. Gas stoves? Wood fires? Wig Wag ? Dead battery cell phone? Walk or ride? Sew on patches? Glue on Velcro? Soap and water? Alcohol sanitizer? Sunscreen? Long sleeve shirts? "it depends"..... See you on the trail.
  12. Now, let's not say no yet. A HOA can be very interesting. Let's assume the Scout's home is in this association. It is a "public" meeting, altho a limited public, I should think. Things need to be decided, bills paid, problems solved, neighbors need to work together.... Might not be as large as a County Council meeting, but hey, this is what democracy is about. HOA I would hope includes all the HO invited, not just the (?) trustees or commissioners or what ever you might call the leadership. Ask the Scout about what he saw/heard. How were things run, decided.... Did he notice any "tendencies"? How did it compare with how his family makes decisions? His Troop? Does the PLC operate similarly? My Scoutson attended the local neighboring Town Council Meeting. Three Commissioners and a dozen citizens. I remember he reported some hearty back and forth, but civil discussion about a new by-pass being planned by the state. Next, the Scout might want to view some videos about the Nuremburg trials.....
  13. GOING OUTSIDE . . . is not a game or a program, not a device or an app, not a protocol or an operating system. Instead, it’s a comprehensive experiential mode that lets you perceive and do things firsthand, without any intervening media or technology. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/03/28/just-in-time-for-spring
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    Completed MB?

    A conversation with the MBCollege/weekend folks would seem to be in order. You spoke to the Scout. Did he seem to think he had "met" the requirements? A Scout is Trustworthy. The parent is correct (is he a lawyer?) , and so the MB is "passed". But perhaps you and the Scout know the truth of the matter. As a MBC for Bugling, I am no longer surprised , only disappointed, by the number of Scouts who will come to the MBCollege with a new Bugle (or no instrument) still in it's wrapper with obvious expectation they will "learn" and "earn" the Merit Badge in one three hour session. Did you read the Pre-requisite page on the sign up page? er, yea.... Did you read thru the MBBook? I've got the worksheet here.... But did you read thru the Book? Did you read the requirements ? Out of ten Scouts, average, one will be prepared (there's that annoying phrase again) . one will be able to pass the requirements the first meeting. Another two will call me up and make another appointment and play the calls (it is a PERFORMING requirement Merit Badge) after some practice. The rest can't even make a noise with their horn. *sigh*. So I make a few "Partials" that never call me back. What happens with them, I never know.
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