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    • Thinking a bit more ... I am getting crotchety in my old age.  LOL.  ...  I hope the scout can advance.  That would be great.  ... But when I hear a parent threaten to pull their scout out because they can't advance, I am frustrated.  Advancement is just one benefit and not the biggest one.  Is the scout having a positive experience in scouting?  Having fun?   Growing in character and responsibility?  If so, that's the big part.  ... I wish advancement always naturally followed that, but it doesn't always.    And it makes me sad when the scout loses out on advancement.  ... But to threaten to pull the scout because of that is also frustrating to me.  
    • And those are the opportunities lost, in my view.  Reach out to local outdoor sources that may appreciate the option on occasion, and do not make it too expensive, but also not a loss leader, so to speak.  That might include schools, church groups, local colleges that might do classes there, sporting goods stores with outdoor programs, especially if a climbing facility is there.  But also maybe even council insider use for family options.  Always seems to be excuses, but little done.  Our camp was front and center for fire camp more than once, but it might have also been coused for training, including he scouts in summer and such.  Never even suggested, or if it was, never got beyond a mention in a meeting few were allowed to attend.  One of the biggest barriers that still seems to survive is "can't".  As my grandfather often told me, "Can't" never could do anything".  
    • 4 years in scouts.  49 camp outs.  ... He should have had plenty of opportunities to advance.  Technically, the scout could have easily earned Eagle by then.  Key point is the troop should be watching and supporting the scout getting at least to 1st class.
    • I am not in the troop, I am third party that was approached for advice. 
    • All of last year the national and regional meetings discussed consolidations of use and more days of use on existing camps.  I get what is being said, a lot of camps are literally used for only 6 to 8 weeks a year and then they sit unused drawing resources for maintenance. 
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