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  1. TAHAWK

    Scouting firsts lost in history?

    All we have are bits and pieces. In 1909 "Billy" Milne learned of a small group of boys at the First Baptist Church in Barre, VT, who were already members of the Boys Brigade, he offered them an alternative to their routine of marching and drills. By re-organizing into a new "Boy Scout Club" these scouts learned first aid, new outdoor skills and being helpful to others. "Billy" Milne went back to his native Scotland and brought back the books and materials he needed along with a British Charter. By 1910 Barre's Troop #1 joined the Boy Scouts of America U.S. Army Maj. Robert Lee Bullard, who would rise to the rank of lieutenant general and command the 1st Infantry Division, "The Big Red One," in World War I, met Baden-Powell in England shortly before he shipped out to the Philippines, and was impressed by the British general's scouting movement. After being posted to the Presidio of Monterey from the Philippines with other members of the 8th Infantry Regiment in 1908, Bullard and three other soldiers recruited boys from the Monterey Grammar School, fitted them out with uniforms, a flag, drums and bugles. A photograph taken in 1908 shows Troop 1 in ranks by the side of the Monterey Custom House, wearing uniforms. One of the troop's first outings was a weekend campout at Point Lobos, with the boys in uniform marching out with two mule-drawn Army wagons carrying their supplies, according to a 1936 news story in The Monterey Herald by the late Ted Durein. Records of the troop's subsequent lineage are sketchy. Pacific Grove Troop 90 claims to be Troop 1's direct descendent. In an exchange of letters between Alfred Young, executive of Scout Council 25 in Salinas, and Bullard's wife in 1936, Young reported that Troop 1 operated from 1908 to 1912, drifted gradually to Pacific Grove from 1912 to 1918, and was registered as Troop 1, Pacific Grove, from 1918 until 1924, when the number was changed to Troop 90. Scout officials and historians concede that a number of troops were formed before 1910, but none that were recognized as official Boy Scouts of America units
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    Scouting firsts lost in history?

    People did not wait for an organization. People bought the book and started up. I have belonged to two 1908 troops - one in Santa Ana, California, and one that started in Cleveland, Ohio, and migrated to Cleveland Heights, Ohio., by WWII. When BSA arrived in Cleveland in 1912, there were already ninety-nine troops, five of whom claimed # 1. What I can't determine vis-a-vis Cleveland District is what happened to former Troop 6 - STILL 6, changed to 11? (About ten years ago, a jackass threw away all the old records.) BSA did not finally arrive in Orange County, California, until 1926. Troop 43, then 18 (old as dirt to a kid) decided to remain Troop 43 - its California Peace Scout Number. Could not beat the 6 x 6 green silk flag with "Semper Paratus" and the UK Fdl. "The best troop in all the land is Troop 43." So when was the centennial? 1907.
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    Patrol Method - Best Practices

    The distance is, manifestly, a tool to help maintain patrol independence. The goal may be harder to achieve without it, but if the understanding and commitment is there, the youth can still have Scouting. Tarps?
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    District meetings - what's the point?

    The SE has not told the Council yet. All training is now by Council.
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    District meetings - what's the point?

    Since we reorganized six districts into two, about five years ago, we have never had any Roundtable Commissioner - Cub or Scout. Now we are eliminating districts altogether. This last may be driven by our SE's belief that anything poorly done should be eliminated, rather than fixed.
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    Yes, Government wastes money, regardless of who supposedly leads the bureaucracy. "You deserve more, and they should pay for it." Remember "budgets"? "The president’s fiscal year 2010 budget proposal amounting to $3.55 trillion in spending was released on Feb. 26. According to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), the president’s proposals will add deficits of $9,300,000,000,000 over the next 10 years—many times more than the inflation adjusted cost of all of World War II. The budget proposal sets record levels of annual spending between a minimum of $3,556,000,000,000 in 2011 and $5,139,000,000,000 in 2019. The budget raises taxes by as much as $1,600,000,000,000 over the next ten years."
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    What Do You Look For In A Summer Camp?

    Management change can drastically change the experience from on year to another. I like to take a week 3-> and ask those from 1 & 2 how it went.
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    But Flynn is on the other side. You 're not suggesting applying the same standard?
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    Dynamic patrols and the patrol method

    A month is a blink of an eye if the objective is the Patrol Method. If the objective is something else, a month is surely better than a week. How would Little League do it? Hpw
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    Dynamic patrols and the patrol method

    I introduced myself to Professor Tuckman, who answered his own telephone at Ohio State, solely by name and recited what I had just been told about his "Stages of Team Development" (at Wood Badge). He chuckled, and said, "You must be with Boy Scouts. I wish they would read my article. Did you?" I assured him that I had, and that had also taken Blanchard's week-long "Situational Leadership" in 1995. "Then", Professor Tuckman said, "can we assume that you know I never said that." I told him that we could use that as a working assumption and that I was calling to be sure I understood his theory. We talked for about forty-five minutes. In Tuckman's theoretical model, "stages" are simply descriptions of where the group can be at a given point, for use as guidance of the group "leader" in "supplying what is missing." (If, then) There is no necessary or inevitable order. There may be other stages. Stages may repeat. The leader must adjust his/her efforts to the situation in which the group finds itself. (Hence, "Situational Leadership.") Most "productive team I was on at "work." 1. Started ignorant and depressed. "We are scapegoats" was one comment. "Doomed" was another. Seemed very united in this view. Said, grimly, we would nevertheless fight the good fight. "No one will be able to say we didn't try." One member of the team pretended to be very ill to drop out before our first meeting. Some "refused" the assignment (Not sure how they got away with that.). As we started our work, calls and emails were not returned by persons with critical information. 2. As we learned some relevant and material facts, energy increased and morale rose. We might not crash and burn. 3. As we learned more, hope turned to optimism. We started to believe we could "win" (with no shared definition of "win.") At this stage, as word of progress leaked out, people who had studiously avoided any association with the team fought to get on it. The team started out all management - not "bargained-for" work, you see. Towards the final days of preparation, hourly employees were helping without pay. CWA union stewards were helping or asking if they could help - without pay - BIG DEAL. Managers who had previously failed to return calls, showed up with donuts and pizza. ("Victory has a thousand Godfathers. Defeat is ever an orphan.") 5. Our stated goal from top company leadership (also at Stage 1) when we were ordered to be part of this team was to keep the verdict under $30,000.000.00. The verdict would then be tripled by statute to determine the damage award. As we waited for the verdict, @250,000.00 sounded good to them. 6. The verdict was for $1.00, trebled to $3.00.00., a good payoff for thousands of hours of work. The opposing team (sixty-attorney law firm) dissolved after revoking partnership of their leader. Tuckman's reaction to my report: " Real life is only approximately like models. " Reminds me of Psych 101: "People are not like Coke bottles." Professor Tuckman passed away in 2016, ending my hope to get our council WB Coordinator to talk to him. I was the leader of this team (expression of confidence or ???? ) Like many teams in real life, some members of this team had related with one another before being placed on this team, some for many, many hours over up to eight years. Other team members, although in the same department, had never worked together. Others had never even met. One of my team was higher in the company hierarchy by one level and three pay grades. I am convinced he joined up on his own initiative because we were friends, Cubs joining a patrol are not a twelve-step group (Tuckman's subjects). They are likely to have been teammates together for years as Cubs, well along in sorting out relationship issues, but there could be an outlier or two or three. It's only a tool.
  11. TAHAWK

    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    One patrol in T83 burned its chicken stew the last night of summer camp. KP? Deferred! The pot was next opened in preparation for the August campout. Interesting blue-green color. REALLY interesting smell.
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    Buzzfeed - CSE Surbaugh - Girls - Scouter.com

    Remember the BSA "spokesman" who, during one of the suits by atheists, explained "A Scout is ...Reverent" in terms of talking to trees. That was pretty far from the party line, even taking Buddhism into account. "Professionals."
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    Buzzfeed - CSE Surbaugh - Girls - Scouter.com

    "[F]lopped" is kind.
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    Buzzfeed - CSE Surbaugh - Girls - Scouter.com

    BSA on the results of the "Improved Scouiting Program" of 1972: "While well-intended, the plan flopped,...." "Hillcourt’s biggest impact came after he retired. In 1972, the BSA revised the Boy Scout program, de-emphasizing outdoor skills in a bid to become more relevant to America’s urban population. While well-intended, the plan flopped, and Hillcourt stepped in. He saw the need for a new Scout handbook, one that would capture the romance and excitement of Scouting, so he offered to write it for free. It was an offer the BSA couldn’t — and didn’t — refuse. That handbook — the ninth edition —appeared in 1979 and went on to sell 4.4 million copies. In its opening pages, 78-year-old Hillcourt described the same sense of adventure he had first experienced so many decades ago: hiking and camping with friends, following the footsteps of the pioneers, staring into the glowing embers of a campfire and dreaming of the future." Scouting, January, 2018. (available on line at https://scoutingmagazine.org/2017/12/scoutmaster-to-the-world/)
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    Buzzfeed - CSE Surbaugh - Girls - Scouter.com

    And one message of "semantics" is that words have power. When he stopped calling leaders "Leaders" and started calling adults "Leaders," things got worse, not better.
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