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    Only six months till girls in Scouts BSA.

    Today, a boy can be registered in both (nationally, the majority of males in Venturing are dual registered to a troop), and this equivalency does not exist. If a male were to say leave a troop as a first class scout and join Venturing, he may chose to continue to pursue Eagle using the Boy Scout advancement track. If he decides to pursue the Venturing tack though, he starts at square one with Pathfinder. why would the BSA ever change that for females to go in reverse? That would to me be very much against the "same program" and "nothing is really changing" statements we have heard to date.
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    Who is headed to NOAC 2018?

    From those who went, I was told there as no additional pronouncements or speeches addressing it. At the expo, there were those available that would confirm what was previously announced. One tidbit I got was that you can still use regalia, for Crossover/AOL, so long as the NA groups in your area have been consulted and give their blessing. That seems contradictory to the language in the announcement. so I am working under the impression the announcement is the valid instruction to follow.
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    Breaking Point

    Welcome to the forum. I fear the impacts it has on Venturing and Sea Scouts. I also fear the impact it has on OA as well, as we define “youth” in the OA as under 21, and I find it very common in the lodge and section level that some officers are 18+ while others are not. Not being able to have a private conversation with your own leadership group is just a strange concept.
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    inexpensive tomahawks?

    http://www.greyowlcrafts.com/tomahawks/ETH-1.html
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    Not necessarily. In our area, most Packs have the crossover at Blue and Gold, and yes the troop(s) send representatives, but the night is the Packs to plan.
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    Summer Camp Merit Badge Questions

    The requirement also does not state it must be "a Scout patrol from your troop" - stick 4 Scouts together that are working on the Mb together at camp, and you have a Scout patrol.
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    Denied a court of honor.

    There are a ton of scripts online. One website: http://www.eaglescout.org/finale/coh/coh.html There are no truly formal guidelines to an Eagle COH. At the end of the day, as soon as the BOR declared your son an Eagle, he is an Eagle. The COH is just a public display. The one element that I would say should absolutely be done at any COH is the Eagle charge, administered by another Eagle. Beyond that, add whatever other you and he would like. The website above also gives sample letter templates and address info for writing to public figures for recognition letters. Many will take 6-8 weeks to respond, and some you may not ever get a response from- my son received commendations from Presidents Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush and Trump, but never received one from Obama (no political statement there, just giving you an example). This is the charge used in my sons' COH: Speaker: The Boy Scouts of the world constitute one of the most significant movements in history, and you [NAME], have been counted worthy of this highest rank in its membership, all who know you rejoice in your achievement. Your position, as you well know, is one of honor and responsibility. You are a marked man. As an Eagle Scout, you have assumed a solemn obligation to do your duty to God, to Country, to your fellow Scouts, and to mankind in general. This is a great undertaking. As you live up to your obligations, you bring honor to yourself and to your brother Scouts. If you fail, you bring down the good name of all true and worthy Scouts. Your responsibility extends to your Country and God. America has many good things to give you and your children after you; but these good things depend on the qualities she instills in her citizens. You are prepared to help America in all that she needs most. She has a great past, and you are here to make her future greater. I charge you to undertake your citizenship with a solemn dedication. Be a leader, but lead only toward the best. Lift up every task you do and every office you hold to the high level of service to God and your fellow men -- to finest living. We have too many who use their strength and their intellect to exploit others for selfish gains. I charge you to be among those who dedicate their skills and ability to the common good. By repetition of the Eagle Scout Promise before your fellow Scouts, you will become an Eagle Scout. Though the words you use may be similar to those by which you joined Scouting, today they will mean more than they ever before. [NAME], please repeat after me: (Raise Scout sign) On my honor, I will do my best.... to make my example .... count strongly for better Scouting .... To do my duty to God and my country .... I reaffirm my allegiance.... to the United States.... and to obey the Scout Law .... I rededicate myself.... to the three promises of the Scout Oath.... To help other people at all times; .... to willingly share my knowledge .... with all around me .... To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight. I therefore take upon myself .... the obligations and responsibilities .... of the Eagle Scout. .... I now welcome and pronounce you an Eagle Scout.
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    I have met the current National Vice-Chief. When this topic came up in conversation (it's been no secret it was being discussed, and I had hear an announcement was coming at NOAC), he said nothing in support of it and wanted to change the topic of conversation quickly. Based on the conversations that my son has relayed that are going on amongst the summer camp staff this week, I don't believe the youth were in support of this measure at all, or had any say in it.
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    Terrible place we have come to. As a Native American, I had no issue with the ceremonies, when done respectfully and the ceremonialists treated it as such. This new crossover script is corny as heck, and I don't see many kids jumping up and volunteering to use it. I absolutely don't think the Lodges should take on any part in carrying these ceremonies out at all, it has no connection at all to the OA, and wearing a sash for it is IMHO an inappropriate event to wear the sash now.
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    ORDEAL CAMPING

    The OA can be an awesome opportunity for the Scout that is open to new experiences, working with Scouts beyond their home troop/town, and particularly likes the leadership training aspects of Scouting. If your son is in a troop that is not doing much beyond "the same old, same old", he should find some opportunities to meet other Scouts in the same boat, and want to do more. Your sons experience sounds similar to mine- when my son got elected, he really didn't know what the OA was, as he never saw it in action or discussed in the troop. As an Arrowman myself, I could explain it, but experiencing it himself opened his eyes. The OA High Adventure opportunities are great offerings for those types of youth. I wish him the best of luck, and as others said- bring the items to the Ordeal, and ask questions at the registration. They will let him know if the items will need to stay in the pack until Saturday or not.
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    Denied a court of honor.

    Things can certainly differ, but here in MA, council's have nothing to do with a CoH. It's a troop function, but the way it occurs differs by troop. As others mentioned, some troop have funds to help pay for it, others do not. Some have a group celebration once a year, others leave it to the parents to plan. There also isn't a 100% iron clad Eagle CoH ceremony that must occur- troops have different traditions, etc. for my son, it is tradition in his troop that each Eagle gets their own CoH, the parent plans it, chooses location and makes sure it is booked, pays for whatever refreshments/food will be available. Troop only pays for the award presentation kit.
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    souvenir flag for Eagle Scout

    Your state senator or representative's office can assist with having a flag flown over the Capitol, and an accompanying certificate, sent to the Eagle Scout. Most charge a feee for it, and many allow you to submit the request through their website.
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    Donations

    For me, so long as you are following the same principles that Council fundraising would, you shouldn't feel you are "in the wrong". Don't give any impression that the BSA (or the unit) is endorsing a particular product, and do not have them any type of a "raffle" giveaway. You could have a "sweepstakes", where it doesn't cost money to enter the drawing, or you could have them as auction items- provided the donor is on board with all proceeds going to the unit. We have done things like this in the past.
  14. The Patrol Method is the means by which leadership development and personal growth are intended to be instilled. The Outdoor Program can be viewed as an extension of how the Patrol Method gets realized. This article is older, but still has some relevant items to learn from: https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2014/09/05/patrol-method/ If you think about any of the "extensions" of Scouting- the OA, NYLT, even Wood Badge- they are organized around a patrol concept. There's no doubt why so many threads here express frustrations on why units aren't making it a priority, or lamenting on changes that are making it more difficult to unfold, and that is because it is how BP himself saw as the program, no matter in which country scouting was in, and the Girl Guide program he championed was to be the same too.
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    New troop, big problems

    Absolutely run. There is a lot wrong here. Being properly uniformed, especially for a BOR, isn't a terrible idea- but, the youth is not going for Eagle yet, so use it as a teaching moment rather than ridiculing him or degrading him. Get him out, give him a few weeks to let his feelings about that troop dissipate and then start making a list with him about what are the things he would want to see in a troop. That would be helpful for him to "interview" the other units and see which is the best fit for him. Best of luck to him (and you).
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