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  1. Get in touch with your troop right away. There's a good chance that even if you weren't included in the recharter this can be rectified without new paperwork and with the troop just calling council. Charters don't actually expire until the last day of the month, although councils want the units to get them done before that. Even if you did happen to drop off the roster the fix is really simple, you just fill out a new app, which almost certainly can be done online.
  2. There's certainly some perpetrators still alive. A scout leader from the mid eighties would be in his late seventies or early eighties today. If these cases weren't being brought as part of a bankruptcy claim but instead were going through the normal state court civil litigation system they would be named defendants. They might yet, the same change in statute of limitations that allows for these claims against BSA allows them against individuals. BSA might be indemnifying Chartered Orgs but they're certainly not indemnifying these individuals. I don't know for certain, but I'm prett
  3. Is there anyone on this board that has any any insight as to how or why the NY council was able to not sell?
  4. In virtually any actual lawsuit about abuse BSA, from today, or 10 years ago, or 30 years ago, the CO, the local council, and the individual offender are all going to be sued. Assuming the suit has merit, at the end of the trial a judgment is first rendered about each defendant: was that defendant responsible for the harm that occurred yes or no. So if, as a matter of law BSA's programs were enough that they were not responsible for the harm than they're in the clear, same for actions or lack of actions by council, same for CO, same for individual defendant. After its determined who is res
  5. I disagree that this is happening because of litigation risk. This is happening because, by their own admission, they can't or won't take the steps necessary to prevent the rape and molestation of children by members of their organization. And if they can't do that, than no they should not have a youth program. If you can't afford to fix the brakes on your car than you shouldn't drive it, not because you're going to get sued for running someone over but because you shouldn't be willing to risk running someone over. As for the analogy to BSA, BSA isn't in bankruptcy despite all its trai
  6. From the same article “If a church five years from now gets sued by a former Boy Scout who was molested or claims to have been molested in that church’s troop, normally the church would turn to the Boy Scouts and say, ‘You guys said you would hold us harmless and insure us, so do that,'” Jordan said. “And the Boy Scouts will say, ‘Sorry, we went through a bankruptcy reorganization and we no longer have any responsibility to do that.'” Churches can maintain their indemnification and gain access to the trust by filing a “placeholder” claim with the court by the Nov. 16 deadline, said Jordan, who
  7. it's doubtful it will really be in anyone's interest to object to a settlement. The alternative to a global settlement is that it becomes every man for himself. That means everything comes out of bankruptcy court and each plaintiff alleging abuse will have to file an individual lawsuit against BSA, and if applicable against a local council. Among other things that would mean BSA could spend down its all its own remaining assets fighting each claim individually. For the plaintiffs that means having to prove each individual claim in court and absorb all the attendant attorney and other costs
  8. I am COR of a Pack and Troop sponsored by a Catholic parish. We have several registered leaders who are not Catholic. No one expects them to profess Catholic faith or deny their own. It's possible your CO has a different expectation but that would be pretty unusual. As to the training and document you're being asked to undertake, that is very very common in catholic units. I'm surprised this is just coming up now, a version of YPT for adults working with kids in Catholic parishes has been as close to a mandate as the structure of the Church allows for almost twenty years now (you m
  9. 2000 scouts on the books is going to make operating two camps, a HA base, and a Cub camp really challenging. So Grand Teton went from 26,000 to 2,000, does anyone know the numbers for similar councils out west?
  10. The unit, in your case the pack, has to approve your son's application. The Cubmaster or a designee can approve the application. If your pack is using online applications this is a matter of a few clicks, if you're using paper applications then it's signature from Cubmaster, then someone has to drive it to the local council office where an employee, the registrar, has to enter it into the computer. all those steps could add up to some time. Your adult application needs an additional couple steps, you have to also complete BSA's Youth Protection Training (YPT) before any thing can be process
  11. I have a number of thoughts on this, and like the rule they're not going to be completely crystallized. First, in all of this discussion the thing to keep in mind is that the enforcement mechanism for any of this, or said differently, the benefit conferred for compliance with any of this, is continued membership in BSA and to a lesser extent coverage by their insurers for things that may go wrong. BSA is not the only organization that does this. My religion has provisions for excommunication for certain acts, even if those acts occur outside of church or church functions. Lots of empl
  12. I'm not sure how long you've been at this game known as scouts, but hard earned experience is that if you do this: "One form (call it "Scout copy") is kept at the scouts house, by the scout, and one form is kept at the "Form Keepers" location ("master copy"). " you will spend a lot of time every Friday before pulling out of the parking lot ensuring that each scout has a form, and then you'll spend some more time as one or two scramble because they forgot it. If you're just going to have the scouts responsible for their form what is the point of having a master file that never gets used?
  13. She built a bench. Like oh so many Eagle scouts before her. I would love to know how many benches have been built as Eagle scout projects over the years. I see them in virtually every park I've been to over the years, and have had my share of my troop's scouts build them. The number has to be in the tens of thousands. ETA ... and the sore feet and tired legs of a nation,including yours truly, are grateful.
  14. The BSA uses a commercial company to run background checks. What they're going to pick up is things that are a public record, basically a credit report and a list of criminal convictions if any. There is almost zero chance that what you're describing exists in any data base that anyone would be able to access. Put in your application, don't worry, and hope that this becomes a weird/funny story you tell in the coming years.
  15. Unless they specify ahead of time, and it would probably have to be some sort of targeted audience course to do so, no one is expected to have backpacking level equipment for WB. There are no fitness requirements for the course, and a lot of participants are going to be from the Cub level where they haven't yet invested in light weight gear. Assuming that your tent isn't so big that it takes more than one person to move it anywhere you should be fine.
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