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    Cub, boyscout , explorer, Eagle ,Vigil, six years on Order of the arrow Ceremonies Team, eleven as an advisor. DL, ASM in four troops (have four sons), two Eagle dad pins,

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  1. There is no rule forbidding it but it can and has been abused from time to time. I clearly recall the case of a CC, who was hell bent on her darling son "earning" Eagle by age 14, signing him off on lashing when he couldnt even tie a clove hitch, as well as quite a number of other reqs. The other scouts in his patrol were livid, and he to his credit was very embarrassed. As a young ASM {20} I had no realistic way of stopping this, so the scout and I would sit down on campouts and we would go over the signed off material until we both felt he had earned it. I did sign off some things for my sons, but I made sure they knew the subject well enough to instruct in it. Just in case. After a while, although they still wanted me to teach them, they stopped asking me to sign anything off. Too hard they said. But 20 years later they can still lash logs together.😁
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    Per WSJ -BSA may declare bankruptcy

    A scout is courteous
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    Per WSJ -BSA may declare bankruptcy

    I would love to start a patrol or three of eager scouts, go hiking, fishing, canoeing, and other fun and challenging activities, as long as National and Council left us alone.
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    Per WSJ -BSA may declare bankruptcy

    Headed out to buy some popcorn single malt. I promise not to wear my uni while I drink.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    I may no have been common, but we did it when I was a scout, 69 thru '77
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    Eagle Board of Review (Appeal)

    I love talking with our soon to be Eagles at their troop boards. I try very hard to spend at least 75% of my time listening. I view these reviews not so much as a practice run for the scout but as feedback as how we did as scouters. My stock questions are " If a new scout were to ask you what does it mean to be an Eagle Scout how would you answer?" and " If you were SM of this troop, what would you change?" I have only ever heard of one scout boy ever being failed at a troop level board. He was a transfer from another troop, and had altered some of his older brothers blue cards to make them look like he had earned the merit badges.
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    As we approach 1 Feb 19...

    Then we are going to need totally new ceremonies. My current worry is Will there even be an Order in 10 years?
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    As we approach 1 Feb 19...

    jingle dress?
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    How to deal with a difficult leader?

    "The work is done by them as shows up to do it." If CodyMiller is doing the job of SM, then he deserves all the respect due that office.
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    How to deal with a difficult leader?

    19, eh? Props and a Scout salute to you! I was once an ASM for a brand new troop at that age. SM was a good guy but knew nothing about scouting. So I pretty much ran the whole show while he did the paperwork. As others have pointed out, being young gives you a closer bond with the scouts than is possible with us old folks. They will look up to you and copy you. ( scared yet?) The down side is that some of the older adults have a hard time seeing you as an adult. I said things as a 20 year old to some 40 year old parents and was completely blown off. I say the exact same thing now and they say " Yes sir". Grey hair does have some advantages after all. Shouldn't be that way but it is. So talk to the other leaders, explain to them your vision of what the troop should be, and how it's going to get there. Get them on your, that is to say scoutings, side. If all of them politely tell the difficult parent "That's not how we roll here" it's probably going to be easier for him to accept than just coming from you.
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    Eagle Board of Review (Appeal)

    Hereabouts such a " mandate" would be used to light the next campfire.
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    OA to end AoL ceremonies?

    Mike, you and I share much the same history, and I respect your opinions quite a bit. Although my years on a ceremonies team were '74-'80. I Absolutely agree that no chapter or lodge should flout National, but as an individual who is not representing the Order in any way, no sash, no patch, no mention of the Order at all, please explain to me how National gets to tell me what I can wear.
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    GSUSA Troop Leader Dismissed

    Not to derail the thread, but this kinda sounds like why we no longer have any district camporees anymore. Council started taking 10-15% off the top for "expenses"
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    OA to end AoL ceremonies?

    Quite a lot of the scouts have bought their own materials, made their own regalia without any help whatsoever from the Lodge, If they decide to serve the cubs by driving their car to an AoL and doing a ceremony that the pack has requested,without any reference to the Order, I do not see how a Lodge ,or even National ,has any right legal or moral to tell them no. Oldscout
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    OA to end AoL ceremonies?

    So we just drop the sashes and just carry on as before? The ceremonies teams around here seem to think that's their best option right now.