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Discussions for OA Members and those interested in Scouting's Honor Society. Also includes a private sub-forum for OA Members only.

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  1. Western Region

    Sections, Lodges and local discussions

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  2. NOAC

    Been to NOAC? Heading there? Chat about the Order's bi-annual gathering

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  3. Central Region

    Sections, Lodges and local discussions

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  4. Northeast Region

    Sections, Lodges and local discussions

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    Sections, Lodges and local discussion

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582 topics in this forum

  1. Abandoned Ring

    By Oldscout448,
    • 1 reply
    • 1.5k views

  2. Hunting the Old Brotherhood ceremony

    By Oldscout448,
    • 1 reply
    • 1.5k views

  3. Joining OA when current troop doesn't participate

    By jscouter1,
    • 12 replies
    • 3.2k views

  4. Revised Pre and Ordeal ceremonies?

    By Oldscout448,
    • 12 replies
    • 2.9k views

  5. Informal unscientific survey

    By Oldscout448,
    • 3 replies
    • 2.1k views

  6. New groupings in the new Service Territories 1 2 3

    By sri_oa161,
    • 31 replies
    • 8.8k views

  7. Principal Name Amendments - ?

    By MikeS,
    • 4 replies
    • 3k views

  8. Still on hold

    By Oldscout448,
    • 6 replies
    • 2.8k views

  9. Anyone else seen the on-line Anti OA items Re: similarity to Masonic Order? 1 2 3 4 5

    By skeptic,
    • 73 replies
    • 29.5k views

  10. Ordeal this weekend

    By tnmule20,
    • 4 replies
    • 1.9k views

  11. Gone Home: Marty Tschetter

    By Eagle94-A1,
    • 0 replies
    • 1.4k views

  12. Vigil nomination

    By Protoclete,
    • 8 replies
    • 3.5k views

  13. Ordeal. Maybe

    By Oldscout448,
    • 8 replies
    • 4.2k views

  14. What should I expect in the CONUS OA?

    By Armymutt,
    • 8 replies
    • 3.3k views

  15. Ordeals this year?

    By Oldscout448,
    • 4 replies
    • 1.8k views

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