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  1. BTW - can we once and for all recognize: The BSA makes very clear that within a unit, the Scoutmaster has the final say on advancement. District Volunteers can not overrule unit level volunteers with their unit.
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  2. Getting an email or call from the principal about how your son was articulate and communicated with eye contact in a meeting with them is priceless.
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  3. I had long conversations with the outgoing COR and the next Scoutmaster today. I feel comfortable that I can contribute as assistant scoutmaster and we are on the same page. I will be able to focus more on mentoring scouts and let the arrows be pointed at another person for a while. The COR was surprised (after I read the role of the Chartering Organization from the Troop Committee Challenge) that the CO selected the scoutmaster, appointed the committee members, etc. The new COR is a much more experienced scouter and has potential in being able to address some of the drama associated wit
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  4. You shouldn't have to fight this on your own. Go or stay comes down to how many quality, helpful parents believe in you. Sounds like you have great enthusiasm and you're learning. If you're all alone then leave, you'd be wasting your time. If the majority of parents and a couple of good asms believe in you then talk to them, get their ideas, lead, and solve the problem. You did get voted down by the committee but I don't know if that represents the majority of the troop. Usually it's just a couple of bad apples that cause the problems. One solution might be that, after you share your vision, h
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  5. The troop committee does not have the authority to replace you as scoutmaster. That is not their job. Officially only the COR has this authority. That being said my advice is as follows: GET OUT!!!!!! I may have missed it but I don't see your son's age and rank. They would have to be nearly done for me to say that you might as well stay. This sounds like a very toxic place. You might discuss the issue with your COR (the person really in charge). If they are supportive of you continuing to develop the troop then they need to inform the committee that they don't have the authority
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  6. Good reading https://www.nuvo.net/voices/guestvoices/your-kid-and-my-kid-are-not-playing-in-the/article_768c0500-0f5b-5b63-961d-b2be73b3d7f3.html
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  7. Yeah. I was in a mood, but that is the common comparison to a logical fallacy.
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  8. Once the scout has aged out, and has received his last rank prior, I don't see a reason to keep the troops copy. I would, however, give them back to the scout at that time.
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  9. We have not been there recently, but I have heard good things about Camp Baldwin (Cascade Pacific Council, Oregon) and Camp Fife (Grand Columbia Council, Washington).
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  10. I have never heard of the packs around here doing anything like that. I like the idea of something memorable that they will look forward to each year - but I tend more toward experiences over "things". Maybe you could come up with a ceremony and activity for the start of the year - similar in idea and significance to the bridging (graduation) ceremony at the end of the year.
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  11. When you are on the my.scouting front page click on the Menu option, and select My Dashboard. Click on the 3 horizontal lines on the left side of the blue bar, then select My Profile. Click on your email address; that will open a box showing your current email. You can highlight and type over the email address in the pop up box, click save and you should be good to go.
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  12. @Owls_are_cool 1) WELCOME TO DA FORUMS! 2) Sorry to read about the situation. I was in an adult run troop that had parents constantly interfering, and ignoring, the trained Scouters. my advice is... ...RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! I spent 19 months dealing with parents you are describing. It made my life miserable. But more importantly, it was affecting my boys. Oldest wanted to Eagle and leave because he was getting fed up. Middle son was becoming extremely cynical with the situation. We had to leae, and it was a good decision. It will be hard to do. But w
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  13. The current Cooking merit badge requirements are even less ambiguous: And the merit badge counselor has the final say on merit badge requirements. If the Scout is working on the requirements prior to working with a counselor, then I would look to the Scoutmaster for guidance. In addition, the parents are usurping their son as the Patrol Leader. He and his patrol had a plan, but Mom and Dad overruled him.
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  14. My 2 cents - SM should not be involved with determining requirements for any MB for a specific scout. However scouts should not be cooking for adults, adults are not patrol members although could be part of a crew. You own the program and you should be able to determine who is in which patrol when needed.Make yourself the leader of the adults patrol so you can deny this type of MB requirement bending - The new -to-be SM and you need to sit down and have a discussion on your vison vs his. Does he have one, is he willing to put in the work, what makes sense for the scouts you or him.
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  15. We do a week at our council camp in June, followed by an out of council camp in July. Pretty much every out of council camp requires us to bring a copy of our council's proof of insurance. Not a big deal.
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  16. I'm willing to concede that I'm in the minority opinion on this one. The literature encourages the idea that the CC supervises the unit leaders. If a volunteer's supervisor cannot remove said volunteer, then that puts the supervisor in a pretty weak position. But, this isn't the point of the topic - so I'm not looking to push the point. I'm just adding it for context. More likely, what I think happens is a parent knows someone in a district role. They ask their opinion on an issue which then gets related as fact. Too many unit leaders go along with it because they don't realize t
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  17. A lot to unwrap here, but this pretty much sums it up As Dirty Harry said in Magnum Force "a man's got to know his limitations" Your limitations may be turning this Titanic around Not sure of the timing but 4 Scoutmasters in a few short years is a sign of trouble The one who slapped a Scout (Was his name Patton??) The one there when you joined You The next Scoutmaster victim As a comparison my home troop had 4 Scoutmasters in 16 years 70's and 80's. Current troop has had 2 in last 19 years, retired one and current. Overall in 35 years current troop h
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  18. I've see this for summer camp--we typically go out of council, and the camps we go to request proof of our home council's accident/injury/health policy. Most (I'd assume all, but I could be wrong) have those; they are secondary to a scout's personal health insurance, but do provide some coverage if personal health insurance falls short or if the scout/scouter is uninsured. We just get a proof-of-insurance document from the council office before we leave and turn it in when we check in at camp.
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  19. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/alvin-townley-boy-scouts-extraordinary-impact-on-america-calls-us-to-consider-risk-of-litigating-it-to-death?fbclid=IwAR3nN4WaZlmDvQ5BuxGCoSkenskcvsi8XhlmhREoVUZPAyKfXeY6sS5hLtk
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  20. He could probably have knocked out a few requirements for Crime Prevention too. Requirement 7b is to visit a jail or criminal court hearing....bet he has no trouble getting that one signed off!
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  21. I think this is one of the reasons. All my adult leader friends who brought a smile when they showed up have moved on. I still have many friends, but it is not like it was. And I must admit ... this last month, I've done a lot of yard work and home projects that I have put off for a decade. It's sort of nice working my ticket back into my home life.
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  22. We just returned from Camp Baldwin. Two thumbs up!
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  24. Not downplaying the severity of the charges or impact on the BSA and Eagle Scouts; wonder if he earned Entrepreneurship, American Business, or Truck Transportation Merit Badges? Also assume he got to see the essential elements of Fingerprinting Merit Badge up close and personal.
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  25. The problem with rescinding an Eagle is who decides what crime rises to the level of losing the award? Shoplifting? Embezzlement? Selling a dime-bag on the street? DUI? DUI that results in vehicular homicide? The reality is that Eagle hopefully represents what a person was at a particular point in their life, though we all know there is a wide range of actual knowledge that a Scout can have and behaviors that they may exhibit and still earn Eagle. Also, just because someone does something wrong at some point in their life doesn't mean that bad action has to forever define who they are for
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  26. IMHO, if a accusation can remove a scouter from the BSA , a felony conviction should rescind an Eagle award. A partial response to aberration. My $0.02,
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  27. Certainly Baden-Powell's First Class Award is the very definition of Free Range. The final requirement, the First Class Journey, is a 14 mile overnight backpack or canoe trek, alone or with one peer. No two-deep helicopters! > The tracking probably wasn't needed and while the plant and animal identification is nice, it's not really a core skill. > On the whole, it seems to be a bit obsolete Despite the significant controlled risk involved in the First Class Journey, not to mention the increasing challenges of the subsequent Journey and Expedition requirements of the
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  28. Until they see the scout. Question is a little like "when did you stop beating your wife?". It's hard to answer because you shouldn't be doing that. The blue card should either be in the hands of the scout or the counselor. When done, the scout hands in the troop's portion for the troop to keep. The scout keeps his part. The counselor keeps his part.
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