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  1. Thunderbird

    What is the proper term now?

    I know this is a personal preference type of thing, but I dislike the term "Cub" or "Cubs" (when used by itself), because it makes them sound like they are still little tiny kids. These are 10 and 11-year-old Webelos Scouts who are used to being the oldest Scouts in the pack. The BSA doesn't call Tigers "Tiger Cubs" any more - officially they are called "Tiger Scouts" [Lion Scouts, Tiger Scouts, etc.]. While "Cub" would be intended as a term of endearment, some people (and current 10 and 11-year-olds) might find it a little bit demeaning. JMO. I agree with @HashTagScouts. Don't focus on what type of Scout they are - focus on the type of unit. However, if you want to describe what type of Scout they are, I would call them "Webelos Scout" or "Cub Scout", which are the official terms.
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    Webelos - Participation as Den After the Cross

    1. Yes, but it's up to the Cubmaster / Pack Committee. Answer might depend on whether or not the now crossed over Scouts have parents or siblings who are still members of the pack. Regardless, they should still be covered by BSA insurance, so that should not be an issue. 2. I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. Do the pack and the troop share the same Chartered Organization? Do you charge other non-members of the pack (siblings who are not Cub Scouts, parents who are not leaders, etc.)? Did the Scouts help raise money for the pack prior to crossing over?
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    2018 Membership numbers are in

    If anything, I would think that Varsity Scouts would be bundled in with Boy Scouts, because the Varsity program was basically a subset of the Boy Scout program. Sea Scouting became its own program (separate from Venturing) in early 2016, so maybe that's why they decided to post the numbers for both programs together.
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    And here is the International Spirit Award at the BSA's web site: https://www.scouting.org/international/recognitions/
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    outdoor campfire cooking but sleeping in a cabin

    Watch out for the Cooking merit badge, which does not allow its meals to double-count towards rank advancement or other merit badges: But if these meals are not being used to fulfill the rank requirements, then they could potentially count towards the Cooking MB requirements.
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    outdoor campfire cooking but sleeping in a cabin

    TF #1b. - They are cabin camping, so cannot count. TF #2a. - Uses the term "the campout", which seems to refer to TF #1b., but unclear. Scoutmaster's discretion? TF #2b. - Uses the term "a campout". If it's not referring to the campout in TF #1b, then it could count. SC #1a. - They are cabin camping - not tent camping. I would count it as an outdoor activity, but not a "campout". SC #2e. - Unless the term "On one campout" is interpreted strictly to refer to the campouts as defined in SC #1a, then I think this could count.
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    The current Cub Scout program recommends immediate recognition (adventure belt loops / pins at den meetings, if possible, and ranks usually at the next pack meeting). BSA Guide to Advancement section “Do Your Best”: Because your pack is small, presenting awards once a month is probably fine. Some larger packs find that trying to present all adventure belt loops and pins at pack meetings can take too long and the kids start to get bored, so it might make sense to present the adventure loops / pins at den meetings.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    @RememberSchiff Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet React to Girl Scout Selling 'Momoas' Cookies (Exclusive) https://www.etonline.com/jason-momoa-and-lisa-bonet-react-to-girl-scout-selling-momoas-cookies-exclusive-120357 Jason Momoa does not want Samoas -- he wants some freebie shortbread cookies, instead!
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    What's even worse is that ASMs (age 18-20) can no longer count as the second registered adult.
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    Don't you also have 2 other committee members? A CC and 2 CMs are the minimum for a committee.
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    What happened in 1973?

    I think that some people are misinterpreting the rule. If you have a Webelos Scout who is in the 5th grade but young for his or her grade level, then the Scout is likely meeting the AOL rank tenure requirement based on grade - not birthday: "1. Be active in your Webelos den for at least six months since completing the fourth grade OR for at least six months since becoming 10 years old." Assuming that the Webelos Scout is 9 years old when completing the 4th grade, he or she might not turn 10 years old until August (or even September), but could meet the "since completing the fourth grade" part of the requirement as early as November, which would put their age somewhere between 10 and 10.5.
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    Webelos II - Adventure Requirements - Clarification

    I guess I waited too long to edit this, but it should say: ...before they can work on any of the AOL required adventures -- while they are still in the 4th grade.
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    What is the proper term now?

    The new program name is "Scouts BSA", but the Scouts themselves are just called "Scouts": Scouts BSA Program Resources: FAQ (page 10) Also the Guide to Advancement: https://www.scouting.org/resources/guide-to-advancement/mechanics-of-advancement/scouts-bsa/
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    What happened in 1973?

    Tenderfoot rank does not currently have a tenure requirement; however, it does have a fitness tracking requirement for 30+ days (requirement 6b.). (Added in 2016) Second Class rank has a personal fitness tracking requirement for 4 weeks (requirement 7a), and it cannot start until after all of the Tenderfoot fitness requirements are completed. (Added in 2016) First Class rank has a personal fitness tracking requirement for 4 weeks (requirement 8a), and it cannot start until after Second Class requirement 7a is completed. https://www.scouting.org/programs/scouts-bsa/advancement-and-awards/ Tenderfoot - 30+ days fitness tracking Second Class - 4 weeks fitness tracking First Class - 4 weeks fitness tracking Star - 4 months active tenure as First Class Scout Life - 6 months active tenure as Star Scout Eagle - 6 months active tenure as Life Scout The minimum time to Eagle Scout is now about 19 months due to the Second Class and First Class fitness tracking requirements that were added in 2016. If a Webelos Scout earns the Arrow of Light rank and joins a troop on their 10th birthday (or close to it), then it is mathematically possible to earn the Eagle Scout rank prior to the 12th birthday.
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    Webelos II - Adventure Requirements - Clarification

    There is some new guidance from National for Webelos and AOL ranks. It appears to only apply to packs who transition based on grade (not birthday): Cub Scout Program: The Advancement Trail What I think they are saying is that Webelos Scouts currently in the 4th grade have to complete all of the Webelos rank requirements before they can work on any of the AOL required adventures. However, because the Scouting adventure requirement says "c. Develop a patrol name and emblem (if your den does not already have one), as well as a patrol flag and yell. Explain how a patrol name, emblem, flag, and yell create patrol spirit", that implies to me that they can vote on a den name and emblem (patch) at any time while they are Webelos Scouts -- they do not have to wait until they are working on the Scouting Adventure. I recommend velcro for things like rank and den/patrol patches that are likely to change.