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    Primary Objective: To learn to produce short explainer videos for Free-Range "Lone Patrols" unaffiliated with "leadership skills" Troop structures.
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    Webmaster of the Traditional Scouting Website, www.inquiry.net - Editor of the first edition of Traditional Pathfinder Handbook, http://www.inquiry.net/traditional/handbook/index.htm used by US Baden-Powell & Independent Scout organizations - 20 years as Scoutmaster and instructor for BSA district and council training courses, including advanced OKPIK

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  1. Kudu

    Adult led and youth led

    Seems worthy of a new thread, "Natural Leaders."
  2. Kudu

    Adult led and youth led

    My initial inclination is to encourage Free Range Kids to organize around the original fortnight edition of Scouting for Boys. As in the days before Troops were common, a Lone Patrol would seek out, as needed, adults in the community with expertise in the outdoor skills they wish to master. Perhaps a church, school club, hiking group, outdoor store clinic, local chapter of Let Grow, former BSA volunteers, etc. (I'd be interested in additional suggestions). Adult Led / Youth Led then becomes: Youth Led adults whose services can be terminated as needed. Some day I'd like to see a spin-off thread on the research behind @Eagledad's observation that only about 3% of the population are "Natural Leaders." In my experience Barry's figure is exactly right. In a Troop of 32 Scouts, typically I trust only one or two to take a Patrol out into the field with no adult supervision. And, like @qwazse, I do sometimes meet these 3 in 100 "Alec in Wilderland" kids, with a Patrol-size following. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXHCiIQtqoQ&t=11s Yours at 300 feet, Kudu Kudu.Net
  3. Kudu

    Adult led and youth led

    Thanks to @RememberSchiff @Sentinel947 @Eagle94-A1 @desertrat77 @willray and @DuctTapefor the warm welcome back. 😎 This summer I do hope to participate in a few threads like this, but with the goal of learning how to make short "explainer" graphs and videos for Free Range kids. What would be the pros and cons of joining a "Troop," if you are a Lone Patrol of kids encouraged by your parents to seek adventure on your own? Thanks again! Yours at 300 feet, Kudu Kudu.Net
  4. Very proud, indeed! 😎 Kudu Flaming Fry Pan Patrol
  5. Kudu

    New Troop adult lead.

    We meet on Monday nights. Most Patrols shop the Wednesday or Thursday before the campout.
  6. Kudu

    New Troop adult lead.

    In my retirement I too volunteer in a one-Troop town! The local unit was an adult-led Eagle factory, far worse than any descriptions in this thread or elsewhere. No Scoutmaster in this Troop was ever even a Cub Scout as a boy, but every adult is an expert on Eagles. I don't want to be a Scoutmaster again, so changing Troop culture these days is more difficult than in my past. As I have detailed in other posts, my strategy was to establish a High Adventure program first. I used backpack trips to introduce the Scouts to a backwoods Scout-run Patrol Method under the Troop's two best Natural Leaders (300 foot Patrols, day journeys without helicopters, etc.). High Adventure attracts outside volunteers. Then thousands of backpack, canoe, climbing, and SCUBA photos on Facebook, Google+, etc. brings parents and Scouts from Troops in nearby towns that do not camp. I was lucky that one of the new moms on the Committee was a former Scoutmaster. She arrived just in time to help me transition into a PLC-run outdoor program. Even so, after six (6) years it is still a constant battle to save the outdoor program against the nasty side of indoor Eagle nature. For instance, one of my secrets (to get 20-25 Scouts out to backpack, climb, or canoe) is to require they pay $10 four (4) weeks in advance (before the Scouts and their families make other plans). But next month's Committee meeting includes a motion by an agressive indoor mom to reduce that commitment down to four (4) days! So, yes it is possible to change a Troop culture, even without being the Scoutmaster, but every Troop is different so you just can't tell in advance where the tipping point will be. Yours at 300 feet, Kudu http://kudu.net
  7. Eagledad, The Medium is the Message My thought was that Wood Badge was invented to teach indoor volunteers how to think like outdoorsmen: Specifically how to navigate through the backwoods. Before "leadership skills," a Scoutmaster's job was to teach his Scouts how to actually "scout" (the final test of every rank was a semi-solitary Journey), and to teach his Patrol Leaders how to actually go out on "patrol" (the purpose of a Patrol was to patrol the backwoods at least once a month). Since most of the promotional material for "Trail Life" features "trail life" in the rugged wilderness (always with snow-capped mountains looming overhead!), I would incorporate navigation into every aspect of their training. For a weekend beginners' course, perhaps each outdoor skill session a football field away, marked on a map...
  8. I've been asked to help invent a weekend outdoor skills training course for local Trail Life Troops. Can anyone give me a general idea of how the week-long Backpack Wood Badge course of yester-year was organized? Thanks! Yours at 300 feet!
  9. Kudu

    Troop Training- ILST

    Yes, that's what the oft-quoted Troop Method rules are for: To keep the six-month Patrol Leaders weak, so that "Real" Patrols are viewed as an irresponsible pipe dream. As for Sentinel's question: As the title "Introduction to Leadership Skills for Troops" (ILST) implies, this is Troop Method Training. It appears to be written by the same Wood Badge committee that produced the Program-Neutered 25 minute "Patrol Method" presentation in Scoutmaster Specific Training. To Program Neuter is to surgically remove the Patrol Leader and any description of a working Patrol from the "Patrol Method," presumably so as not to offend Den Leaders and Venturing Advisors. :-) Note that in ILST, the term "Patrol Leader" appears only in references to three outside materials: 1) Materials Needed (Patrol Leader Handbook). 2) The job descriptions from those cheesy wallet-sized cards. 3) And the Wood Badge holiest of holies: Troop Method Organizational Charts! In the ILST course, the term "Patrol Leader" has been replaced by such euphuisms as: "Scouts" "Scout leaders" "Scouts in leadership positions" "Scouts in charge of each team," And (in the right context) my new personal favorite: "Less-senior Scout leaders." Likewise in ILST, as in most Troop Method Training courses, in place of working Patrols, the usual reference is to "teams" and "team building": "Introduction to Leadership and Teamwork Session "What do we mean by “team� The word “team†applies to any group working together on a common goal. It can be a temporary group that meets once to solve a particular problem, or it can be a permanent group. In Scouting, the team could be the patrol leaders’ council, a group of backpackers, or an entire troop." http://www.scouting.org/filestore/tr...%20511-016.pdf Presumably "The Cook and Dish-Wash Artist Formally Known as Patrol" does not qualify as a team in "Scouting." When Troop Method Training refers to Patrols at all, it is usually in the team-theory form of "troop or patrol" to show that all teams are the same. So, is it hopeless? Only if you look to the content of BSA Training for "Real" Patrols. Marshal McLuhan once said "The Medium is the Message." If you camp your ad hoc training Patrols 300 feet apart, send them on a Patrol Overnight, and always call attention to Physical Distance, then the Message will live on long after the corporate team-building exercises have been forgotten. Yours at 300 feet, Kudu http://kudu.net
  10. Kudu

    Troop Training- ILST

    Sentinel, You use William "Green Bar Bill" Hillcourt's term "Real Patrols," which means Patrols in which the Patrol Leader moves his Scouts through Physical Space. The quickest route to such Patrol Awareness is to physically separate your ad hoc Training Patrols by Baden-Powell's 300 feet, as was once the common custom in American Wood Badge. Make sure you call their attention to that Physical Space. It seems obvious, but it is not. Also from American Wood Badge is the Patrol Hike and Patrol Overnight, which you could do Saturday night. The idea being that "Real" Patrols can conduct Patrol Hikes and Patrol Overnights at monthly Troop campouts, to conform with the Physical Distance (in a Boy Scout camp), with which the adults are comfortable. Again, make sure you call their attention to that Physical Space. It seems obvious, but it is not. Green Bar Bill's "Patrol Leader Training" course on how to teach Patrol Leaders how to conduct Patrol Hikes and Patrol Overnights can be found at: http://inquiry.net/patrol/green_bar/index.htm The best Hillcourt-based Patrol Leader Training in the 21st century is being done by Bob Geier's "Troop 8." I will try to post more information. Yours at 300 feet, Kudu http://kudu.net
  11. Kudu

    Positions of Responsibility

    Boy-led, as in Patrol hikes and overnights without SPL, JASM, or adult helicopters? Or boy-led as in the whole Troop Method?
  12. Kudu

    Is This acceptable Behaviour?

    "Paper Eagle" is redundant.