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About The Latin Scot

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    I'm part Latino! I'm part Scottish! I'm ... a mutt?
  • Birthday 12/05/1983

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    Mission Viejo, CA
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    Teacher, Child Development Specialist, private tutor
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    Arts and literature, heraldry, history, music, anything that can be done in the great indoors. Tolkien expert, Star Wars geek, history buff, music lover, hobby naturalist, and more. Also the most ardent supporter of proper uniforming you are ever likely to meet.
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    Unit & Cub Scout Roundtable Commissioner, Eagle Scout, and Religious Emblems Coordinator for a new LDS unit. Always looking for and open to new ideas and helpful suggestions!

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  1. I will admit, the only time I ever did any kind of face painting with my Webelos den was at my first AofL ceremony, and only because I was new, unsure of what I was doing, and cajoled into it begrudgingly by a domineering parent. After that, I asked the kids what they thought of the face-painting tradition. Most were apathetic, two were downright uncomfortable with it, and one was actually afraid and nervous about it, the poor little guy. So I just axed the whole thing! And I never missed it. I HATED face paint of ALL kinds as a kid - and still do (I don't know how the ladies do it every day), so had no qualms about retiring the entire tradition and finding better, more engaging options during my three years as Webelos Den Leader.
  2. Correct. As long as the child is a registered Webelos Scout, they can work on their Webelos rank. That is why there is no actual difference between what some packs call "Webelos 1" and "Webelos 2" or "Arrow of Light" dens. In fact, Cubs do not even have to complete the Webelos rank before they earn the Arrow of Light - they can earn it after, if for whatever bizarre circumstances their situation demands it. \ So you are absolutely correct - Webelos is a continuous program that encompasses both the 4th and 5th grades. Scouts may complete any Webelos-rank activities in any order during the entirety of that two-year period.
  3. The problem with the "silent majority" is the same problem I think of when I hear the quote "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - the problem in thinking, in trusting, in assuming that others feel the same as one's self, and that they will follow a similar course of action in the end. That kind of trust is important, but it is not enough. That line is, of course, the quippy, easy-to-digest version of a quote from Edmund Burke that should be understood in full: That's how I like to think of this place - a forum in which 'the good (can) associate' from all other parts of the country in bettering Scouting and preserving the core spirit of its purposes. I have learned so much here, for everything from uniforms to meeting ideas to policy questions to the occasional boost of morale we all need from time to time. And this place has genuinely improved Scouting in my Den, my Pack, my Troop, and my District - the many things I have learned here HAVE made a real, measurable and significant difference in Scouting where I live - that's a marvelous and wonderful thing! Have I occasionally bee n disheartened or frustrated by the things I have read or discovered here? Of course, but no more so than out among the units I serve now and then, and I have always been able to trust that there are like-minded individuals both here and there that, at the heart of it all, want what is best for their Scouts and families. And if you are all here, representing Scouters from all different parts of the country, then by simple logic I can trust that there must be more, and if there are more, there are enough. Enough to keep Scouting going, enough to believe that, if we really want to save this movement (a movement that exists along with but also far beyond the mere organization of the BSA), we can keep the fires burning. And this place is evidence of that! I may be a young idealist, but I am okay with that label. Besides, it's not in my nature to feel anger or resentment - there is always a bright side to look on, so that's where I choose to pitch my tent. And anybody else who decides to make "a Scout is Cheerful" their personal motto is welcome to set up camp alongside me!
  4. From the great Baden-Powell himself: If you ask me, mere numbers are no sign of success, or if they are, it is the wrong thing succeeding. I am by far more troubled and concerned by the growth of Scouts Canada since these changes than I am encouraged by it.
  5. Get rid of ALL the girl-centered products that have been sitting on our stores' shelves untouched for months! Bracelets, ribbons, leggings, hair accessories - I am sure BSA was banking on them being instant sellers once girls joined Scouting, but NONE of it gets bought here, they are expensive to produce, and they take up shelf space with product over half of the program's members will never touch. Such a waste.
  6. I concur with the general sentiments here; it's a wonderful thing for you to offer vespers and a benediction at the close of your meeting. How corny they are depends only on how corny you make it, meaning they could be utterly sincere and heartfelt if that's the way you treat them. Coming from a deeply religious unit, we always begin and end our meetings with prayer, and very often a hymn will accompany the opening or closing of our meetings. It's can be a meaningful addition to your meetings, but as the one introducing them, remember that you set the tone, and others will follow. But judging by the fact that you were good enough to include them in the first place, I have great confidence that you'll make it just right for your pack and their families. Good on you for doing it. 👍
  7. As a lifelong amateur swordsman, I found the original post absolutely delightful and it definitely made my day. 😄 As a lifelong amateur swordsman, there's no way in Heaven or Earth I would give my Scouts swords, even with all the protective equipment. I'll let them enjoy that activity under the watch of a trained professional and let somebody else deal with all the liabilities, thank you very much. 🤣
  8. I agree 100%. Those who deny Scouts opportunities because they lack a uniform do not understand the purpose of Scouting, and those who end up fretting because they don't have one yet suffer from an unfortunate lack of imagination. However, @yknot and @CynicalScouter, be very careful with your comments - one might suspect that you feel supporting and/or promoting the uniform must equal either a disproportionate understanding of the values of Scouting, or that it somehow limits opportunities for Scouts with limited financial means. But these would of course be egregious assumptions; my specialty is working with low-income and migrant families, and I have never allowed finances to hinder a Scout's ability to participate in our activities in any way whatsoever - especially since I come from low-income circumstances myself - and yet I have always managed to successfully equip every Scout in my dens with a full uniform, because I used my imagination and every resource available to me. That isn't "valuing wearing a uniform over giving Scouts with limited financial means opportunity" - that is turning the uniform into an opportunity. And that's the whole point, isn't it? I think too often we create false dichotomies in our efforts to rationalize not wearing the uniform - unfair but common sentiments we have all read and heard a million times before, such as "if you focus on the uniform, you will be ignoring poor Scouts," or "if you are worried about uniforms, you must be forgetting part of the Scout law," or "leaders who emphasize the uniform should be focusing on the Scouts themselves" - and other habitual, illogical conjectures that pit one notion against another in unrelated couplets that make unreasonable comparisons with no basis in fact - as though somehow supporting the uniform as a method of Scouting must somehow mean you are deficient in some other aspect of the program. This is, of course, patently ridiculous, but as a rhetorical device I can only assume it makes anti-uniform Scouters feel somewhat comforted as they settle into the false presumption that people who advocate for the uniform must surely be lacking in some other, more important virtue, and so they think, "I can put down wearing the uniform because I am superior in a real Scouting virtue, and those who care only about uniforms must be ignorant of best practices or key human connections that I won't forget because I am not blinded by neckers and socks and hats." But of course, once this line of thinking is exposed for what it is - a rhetorical trick with no truth behind it - I can only imagine it must lose some of its value as an argumentative tactic. As we can all safely understand by now (I hope), such supposition is both absurd and condescending, and logically it is as erroneous as it is patronizing. It is possible, in fact far more probable, that those who care about uniforms see a bigger picture, and perceive that they are part of a much broader, more compassionate and comprehensive understanding of both Scouting and its potential to elevate character in ways that aren't limited by finances or circumstances or current events, because they begin in the heart and find expression in everything we do. That kind of understanding isn't limited by uniforming - it opens doors with it, and with enough resilience and sincere effort, it finds ways to use the uniform as a powerful means of inclusion, a way of bringing Scouting in to the program. Only those with limited imaginations or who don't understand their purpose could ever find ways to turn them into exclusionary barriers. I'm grateful I have never been weighed down by such artificial and unfortunate worldviews; rather, my efforts to make the uniform a key part of our program has led to increased success and loyalty to the program - and my most faithful Scouts are always those whose families deal with extreme economic hardship, but who are clever and resourceful enough to find ways to make it work, and who then carry on those skills towards finding success in other, more important aspects of their lives. After all, I was a Cub Scout who had to find innovative ways to make money to get my uniform in order - and later found equally innovative ways to get the money I needed to go to college. Is the uniform a 'cornerstone' of Scouting? No, I suppose that isn't the word for it - but it is one of the core methods. So is it one of the most effective means of making it a success? Yes. Absolutely, 100% yes. And I dare say that if you don't believe that yet, you have never really tried it. And that's okay - it took me a long time to figure out how it mattered, and why it was important at all. But I did, and you can too - if you are willing to look at it from a whole new perspective. But since when was it a bad thing to be open to change?
  9. It bears repeating that none of the values listed above - thrift, value, and safety - need to be sacrificed in order to get your Scouts looking their best. As for what @yknot has written, each point addressed has an equally valid counter point. Thrift - Nobody should spend a single cent that isn't related to delivering an engaging program. Your program will never be as engaging out of uniform as it will be in it. The uniform is one of the most powerful tools you have in keeping your parents and kids involved, so every penny paid towards that goal is a penny well spent. Value - I would feel cheated out of the full promise of the Cub Scout program if my kid couldn't wear his uniform when participating in service or community events! In fact, during this time of widespread isolation and limited activity, the opportunity to see a kid in uniform doing good, whether outside or via zoom or other teleconferencing means, is a refreshing beacon of hope during uncertain and troubled times. When I see posts of kids in uniform on instagram, facebook, or other online platforms, I can visualize the full value of our program, and it gives people a much-needed sense of optimism that there is good happening all around us, even if we can't yet go out to see it in person. Safety - The wonderful thing about gathering that parts for a uniform is that time is with us, not against us. As we ask trusted friends for gently-used items they no longer need, we can do so with whatever stipulations we feel comfortable. If a friend messages me saying she has a pair of Cub shorts to donate, I can ask that they be washed and disinfected, then left on my doorstep in a plastic bag which I can then wash and sanitize to preference whenever I like. And if it takes a few months to get all the parts - hat, necker, et cetera - well, there's nothing wrong with that. And think how excited my kid will get to go back to Scouts as their uniform slowly comes together! Some socks here, a belt there - sometimes the time it takes to get it all together can generate more enthusiasm than any talk or hype ever could. It's a material (haha) gathering of elements right before the kids' eyes that gives them a tangible means of visualizing the program coming together as they eagerly await the chance to meet in person again. And what a great way to talk about health and safety, as you put together your uniform in a safe way that emphasizes the precautions your family will take to ensure that uniform is a clean, sanitized, healthy option for your kid! Thank you @yknot for helping clarify the many ways our uniforms can be used to emphasize such important factors as the three virtues listed above. When we really understand what the uniforms represent, they can be powerful teaching tools for almost any virtue in Scouting we need to teach, and they will certainly bring nothing but good to our units and our families.
  10. Well, there have certainly been a lot of comments here telling you not to worry about uniforms, or to forget them completely, et cetera. But what if you want to wear the uniform? And after all, as BP himself said, what boy (or girl, or leader) with Scouting in his heart wouldn't want to wear the uniform? The policy which expects Webelos Scouts to wear the tan and green uniform is new - it only came into effect this year. But as per BSA tradition, ANY uniform, once approved by the BSA, is always approved by the BSA - so a Webelos Scout can wear the traditional blue uniform. Just be sure to note to those who may express concern or bemusement that this is now considered a traditional or heritage Webelos uniform, and you should wear appropriate insignia to go with it (so don't wear the new tan oval Webelos rank patch, but instead make sure you wear the appropriate blue diamond rank patch instead). Now as I said, there have been a lot of comments here reassuring you that the uniform is not a necessary part of Scouting. I am here to speak to the other side of the coin - of course you can have Scouting without the uniform - but I can promise you, the experience of Scouting loses a significant degree of power, influence, and ability to do good if you omit the uniform from your program. Do anything you can to obtain uniforms for your kids - not just the shirts, but everything from the caps to the socks and all in-between. Why? It will improve behavior. It will increase unity and teamwork. It will enhance your program and elevate your accomplishments. It will assist recruiting and recognition. More than anything, it will measurably and dramatically improve every aspect of your program in ways that you might not expect and would never have witnessed until you were willing to put in the effort. I only say this as one who was skeptical at first, tried it (begrudgingly, I might add), and was soon drastically and irrevocably humbled when I witnessed in my own Webelos den the DRAMATIC difference I saw in my Scouts and our families once I committed fully to this essential and irreplaceable method of Scouting. One final note - money has nothing to do with it. I work with many Scouts from immigrant and low-income families. So I would petition Scout troops all over our area for any and all gently-used Cub or Scouts BSA uniform items they could dig up - belts, socks, shorts, neckers, ANYTHING. It didn't take me long to have our entire pack outfitted with everything we needed, and where we were short, I asked for donations from local businesses and community agencies. Don't be afraid to ask for help; if you want it hard enough, it will happen - and trust me, the positive effects of getting your kids in uniforms are ABSOLUTELY something you will want.
  11. My dad is a college professor, and I had to train him in the use of Canvas when the pandemic forced him to shift all of his voice and acting classes online. It's not particularly user-friendly, nor is it particularly intuitive. I would recommend against it; it's far too complicated for the needs of Scouting. All you really need is a simple platform like Zoom or GoogleMeeting. Canvas is much too complex and involving to be practical for Scouts and their families.
  12. Of course there is also the far more likely and sensible probability - that this "next generation" and its parents actually don't mind the terms Scout- or Cubmaster, and in fact are perfectly happy keeping them, and wouldn't even think twice about the matter unless it was pushed on them by overly politicizing factions who only want to look for trouble where there is none to be had. I feel comfortable saying this since, according to you, I fall into the category of the "real" decision makers - and I never, in all my functions at the unit, district and council level, have ever even heard of the terms being questionable, apart from this one isolated thread, in this one isolated forum. And I live in a densely populated, media-heavy, influential and involved part of the country. So I think the term is safe for now. ☺️
  13. So, I just got back from my local Scout Shop where I tried on the new uniform pants they just issued (luckily I am trim enough to fit into the youth sizes; leader sizes still haven't come in). And you know what? I actually LOVE them! For once, the pants are fitted comfortably with a nice stretch fabric, and they hit just at the knee, giving a slim, trim fit that looks great! Good job for once, national!
  14. Badge Magic is the DEVIL!
  15. But that quote is from Episode VIII while the image is from Episode V! 🤪
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