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  1. Forgive me, but I don’t see how. In each situation, a Scout is in a situation where he has no idea what to do. Do you let them fail, having no idea how to succeed, or do you step in and help? Or do you step in and do it for them? Do you see a fourth option? Wait, you’re kidding, right? You’re talking about everything being Scout-led, with little to no adult interference, only post-hoc guidance, and you’d be surprised that the Scout leadership had not ensured that every new Scout had been properly instructed into how to put up his tent? But not if that Scout is in a leadershi
  2. That's worthwhile advice. I’ve been wondering what the ideal tenure was for new troops, or new Scout patrols. I’ve seen anything from one month to six months.
  3. I don’t at all disagree that allowing failure is a key part of Scouting. But if the Scout has absolutely no idea how to do a task, do you just stand back and let him fail? Or do you guide and mentor him? If a Scout is having problems putting up his tent, and there are no other Scouts around who are experienced enough to help him, do you stand back and let him fail, and fail, and fail, because he has no idea what he’s doing? Or do you step in and guide and instruct?
  4. This is great! What's the source (official or unofficial) for this? My only problem is that my swim trunks are BSA uniform trunks…
  5. I don’t necessarily disagree with any of that, but when a new Scout (particularly, in my experience, a girl) is put in charge of a patrol or troop, they often really have no idea what they’re doing, and, more importantly, lack confidence in their ability to do it, no matter how much talking beforehand you might do. Therefore, I simply don’t see a problem with significant hand-holding in the beginning, even, as I said, to the point of literally whispering what to say next in their ear, should that become necessary. And I don’t understand why you do. Obviously if it’s this way for more than a
  6. Seriously off the rails like the Scout sitting there like a deer in the headlights, having absolutely no idea what to say or do?
  7. There seems to be some confusion here. How else in the world could a new troop get up and running? Just throw the Scouts in, leave them alone, and let them figure it out with no guidance, assistance or experience? That doesn’t sound like “whispering in the ear.” It sounds like still adult-led, with more youth autonomy than previously. I’m talking about the SPL/PL still being in charge, still running the show, but with a lot of handholding, even perhaps to the point of the adult literally whispering what to say next into the youth’s ear. That’s still Scout-led! It’s just a lot closer su
  8. Here’s my question: Is that really a problem? Acknowledging your other concerns and focusing on this one, what’s wrong with their first year in Scouting being an AOL 2, with the Patrol Advisor continually whispering in the PL’s ear, while the new Scouts get used to Scouting? That’s basically how new troops work in my experience; why not new patrols? Heck, even in established troops it can work that way if the older Scouts have gone inactive or aged out and younger Scouts are leading the troop.
  9. Yeah, I mistyped (the confusion remains!). I meant “Venture Scout insignia,” i.e. these: https://eaglepeakstore.com/collections/venture-position/products/venture-strip
  10. After my son complained that he felt like all he did at this point was teach younger Scouts, I suggested to the PLC that they reorganize into older-Scout and regular-Scout patrols (as suggested by the Troop Leader Guidebook). The PLC unanimously voted to do so. Today I was at my local Scout Shop and noticed “Assistant Scoutmaster—Venture” patches for sale, which led me to the discovery that older-Scout patrols were once called “Venture Patrols,” and had special insignia. Why were these done away with? Was it just confusion of terminology with Venturing, or was there some other reaso
  11. Hm. I think I have a gavel, left over from when I was Party chairman…somewhere…
  12. Does your troop have any opening ceremonies at Committee meetings? For instance, reciting the scout oath and law at the beginning of the meeting? If so, how does that work for you? Is it effective, or just kind of awkward and weird?
  13. Yeah, I've been really torn as to whether to keep this Scouts BSA–specific, or to have it more agnostic. What do you think? I don't really want to make a specific guide for each unit type (nevermind that I know almost nothing about Venturing or Exploring), but I felt that to leave out some of the Troop specific stuff would be to make it less useful to those who are probably the most likely to be using it—those trying to start girl Troops. Excellent idea. I'm not sure what this would look like.
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