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Extremely heartbreaking. And I am glad he is Brave enough to answer truthfully. The answer we usually get to that question is that current YP policies not only treat 18-20 year olds as essentially useless, but also requires them to give up their friends outside of Scouting. They feel National has no respect for their abilities (I'd rather a bunch of 18-20 year olds ASMs to brand new, just crossed over former Cub Scout leaders), and to ask them to give the friends they have made in school, Scouts, church, etc is ridiculous.

Yes a nightmare. My questions include 1. What if a Scout is on a council/unit scholarship? 2. What if a Scout is part of an insurance program (1/2 my Scouts fill out a form and health insurance pays the fees)? 3. What is a Scout pays the fee, but the unit does not reregister on time, or even drops?

Interesting. Back in the day when BSA stopped doing that, at least in the council I was in at the time, I was told by the powers that be that United Way was getting on them because other agencies charged their volunteers.

Look at both the lines on the chart, and job descriptions. Troop Guide reports to the SPL like the ASPL. However, the ASPL assumes the SPL's duties when the SPL is not around according to the job description. So Scout B is in Charge An Aside, the chart is scewed up as the Older Scout patrol Leader doesn't report to the SPL, as they should.

The challenge will be IF there is an accident, and some accidents occur despite the planning, and lawyers get involved, insurance will be looking for ways to not cover you. Sad but true. And the GTSS is suppose to trump all other documents. Me personally tubeing OK as that is explicit, boating, I would stick to calm water.

@AwakeEnergyScouter, Thank you very much for the links. I noticed that the publications and sources you are cited are 2020 -2023. THIS MAY BE EXCELLENT NEWS FOR CUB SCOUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (This time I am shouting, in joy ) I stress the may be (is bold better?) because the current, online Guide to Safe Scouting stills says "Cub Scout activities afloat are limited to council, district, pack, or den events that do not include moving water or float trips (expeditions)." Plus your sources do state: "• Cub Scouts do not participate in

@AwakeEnergyScouter As I stated, the caps, bold, etc was for emphasis, not shouting, This is an extremely important topic, and a personal one. Camp I went to and worked at did have an aquatics fatality. Cubs can do ponds, small lakes, and other still bodies of water. ANY ( again emphasis not shouting) flowing and Cubs cannot use it, even "gently flowing." I have seen Scouts and adults have some challenges in gently flowing water. Heck I have seen Scouts and Adults have trouble on a pond when the wind picked up. I have not taken the new online SA course, as I took the live SA

Don't forget you cna have out of council and out of state troops. Mine is going out of state, 2 adults' 6 Scouts.

CUBS CANNOT DO GENTLY FLOWING WATER SOURCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (caps, bold underlining and size for major emphasis, now and moving forward) Note the Aquatics Subsection of https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/HealthSafety/pdf/680-685.pdf states "Aquatics (See Safe Swim Defense, and Safety Afloat for restrictions based on skills, such as swimming ability, rather than age.)" Safety Afloat states "BSA groups shall use Safety Afloat for all boating activities. Adult leaders supervising activities afloat must have completed Safety Afloat training within the

The first paragraph really concerns me. How many other COs will drop us? The second paragraph infuriates me, hence the emphasis. Either my superiors lied to me about this, or they were lied to by others. But when I was trying to start units This was something I was told to tell prospective COs to help alleviate their litigation fears. This is why I stated the COs needed to be part of the settlement, BSA did indeed make promises to protect COs.

Sadly one NC council I know of had segregated districts up to the late 1970s, early 1980s. 1 DE served the two segregated districts with the same territory. Each district had its own activities and committee, and they did not do joint activities. Sad time for BSA.

Am I the only one who has a bad feeling about AI?

Sometimes summer camp staff are not registered anywhere until they join staff. The camp chaplain whose uniform items i had to pick up from the scout shop and bring to him at camp, was not registered anywhere else except the the summer camp post/crew. Ditto for the Marines and Sailors who had TDY assignments to summer camp staff. And sometimes Staff are not even from the council the camp is in.

Every camp does different things. I know some camps want u with at least one uniform shirt, usually Venturing, that has the silver loops, council CSP, and Camp Staff patch. Others want u in at least one Venturing uniform with green loops, CSP, crew #, and pot patch, usually camp staff, but I have seen a few custom patches with camp staff director. Other camps just want u in a uniform. an aside. This brings back memories of one getting hold of a uniform for our camp chaplain. Long story short, I picked up his uniform to bring to him at camp, and discovered not only was he an Eagle Sco

A little background on the National Medal of Outdoor Achievement. In 1998 when Venturing split from Exploring, the Ranger Award was created as recognition for Venturers who essentially earned the Outdoor Bronze Award, and continued on after earning it in other areas. Ranger was an all or nothing award if memory serves because you only got the Outdoor Bronze once. Venturing and its recognition scheme was confusing for some because there already was an older Boy Scout program in troops called venture crews, and they could earn the Varsity/Venture letter, and pins to wear in t

My concern about wearing GSUSA insignia on BSA uniforms, even if allowed, is the lawsuit that took place recently. Remember GSUSA sued Boy Scouts for copyright infringement, ad nauseum when we allowed girls in. While the lawsuit was dropped, My understanding is that GSUSA units can still not do joint activite with BSA, i.e. Memorial Day Service Projects. Regarding Sea Scouts, their uniforms are the most minimalistic of the BSA's uniforms. It has only been within the past 5 years that they are allowed to wear OA and Jambo insignia.

Before the Webelos Rank, It was Lions, and the AOL Award was originally called the WeBeLoS award. I think the term "Webelos, Rank," plaid necker, and tricolors started in 1972. My brothers were Cubs in that time period, and I wore some of their stuff. A lot of changes occured in 1972, some good, some I would care to forget.

My question is this: What happens to the Scouts who pay the registration fee on time, but the Troop goes beyond the 2 month extension and gets dropped? We regularly have one unit that goes beyond the 2 month extension, gets dropped, and then recharters.

11 Would be a Boy Scout in 1972, not a Cub Scout of any type. 3rd Grade at that time would be Wolf. And up until circa 1990s Wolves and Bear wore the same slide. I do not know when in the 1970s different color neckers came out, but by 1982, Yellow necker for Wolf and light blue necker for Bear. Webelos had a plaid necker. August 1984 was when the option to bear the tan and green Boy Scout uniform, with Cub Scout modifications was first allowed. And you had a choice in the matter. Reason for the option as stated at the time was to save families money. If the blue uniform still f

May I suggest this alteration? Scouting - An amazing program that is successful because of the amazing volunteers in units nationwide, DESPITE the best efforts of National. When it comes to the price increases at the last minute, Packs had it toughest in my neck of the woods because of round ups.

Sadly BSA has poor communication skills. They dropped a little used program, venture patrols, with no announcement. In 2018, they changed YP guidelines stating 18-20 year olds no longer counted towards YP supervision effective immediately in late March/early April, only to have to walk it back to September, after Summer Camp season. Only reason they changed it is because many units at the time used their 18-20 year olds as the 2nd adult in camp. And historically they have upped registration prices during the middle of Round Up season.

I have not been to a NAM, but I have been to an ALL HANDS conference, which every BSA professional was required to attend. It was a mix of information sessions, speakers, and socializing. While they did give everyone a copy of the scripts used by the presenters for all session, some presenters had a lot experience on the topics and was able to give info beyond the script in Q&A sessions. Some presenters strictly followed the scripts they were given. In today's age of technology, it may have been better to do it as a teleconference and recordings..

here are the current 2023 requirements from http://usscouts.org/mb/mb001.asp Show experience in camping by doing the following: Camp a total of at least 20 nights at designated Scouting activities or events. 4 One long-term camping experience of up to six consecutive nights may be applied toward this requirement. Sleep each night under the sky or in a tent you have pitched. If the camp provides a tent that has already been pitched, you need not pitch your own tent. On any of these camping experiences, you must do TWO of the following, only with proper preparation and un

I got concerns for BSA's future after all the recent new rules and NAM announcements. It appears to me that folks at national are clueless as to what is happening in the field. Take the new One Night Cub Scout camping rule. That is going to hurt a lot of pack who have been doing 2 night camp outs for the past 20 years+. We are already hearing of malicious compliance, and I see it happening even more in the future. Heard some packs will start offering 2 camp outs when they do their own: one Friday-Saturday and one Saturday-Sunday. Year-round dues collection direct from families will

I am willing to bet there was a local architect with a Scouting background who would have donated their time on creating a plan. We had one that came up with plans to renovate one camp locally, and the PTB axed it.