1980Scouter

I would like to see the average for an entire 12 months. That would take out any highs or lows and give a more accurate number.

Would these not be the highest numbers or close to it for the year? It takes into account new scouts over the summer and fall. After rechartering the more accurate numbers will be available hopefully.

I see many LC mergers in the next few years due to low enrollment and financial pressures. Maybe at this time the whole over compensation of SE's can be addressed. Not holding my breath though.

Wow. That is crazy salaries for a non-profit. I agree that maybe 75k might be low in some markets. I was thinking of my area.

What is a fair SE salary? Many councils in my area pay 200k +/- plus benefits. This is excessive when Scouting is in decline and councils are strapped for cash. I propose 75k and good benefits. If you care about Scouting you will continue in your position.

I think 5,000 youth should be the min number for a council. They always say you need 1,000+ scouts to make a financially successful summer camp go. With technology there is no reason why 2-4 councils per state would not be reasonable. DE's could work from home near the area they serve.

My LC put out an update video last week saying year over year the number of scouts is up. No numbers were given. Does this mean they have 100 more scouts? They went from 15,000 to 6,000 over 5 years. They always make everything upbeat and positive which is good but sometimes you have to be honest and let the facts be known. I suspect if you dig deeper they are in trouble with losing members and charter partners.

The LC that made the video had a link to the agreement form. It said it is mandatory to do FOS, popcorn, flowers and any other fundraiser at the council level. Camping is allowed at other council camps though. including for summer camp.

This same LC hinted that ALL units may be council chartered in the future. A leader asked about switching charters as they found a new CO and the SE said absolutely not, council chartered is the only option for UMC units.

My LC just did a zoom meeting and stated that ALL UMC units will be council chartered, NO EXCEPTIONS. They feel that this is the best way to move forward. Lots of resistance on the zoom meeting. Do not think it will go well.

And so it begins. The exact appeal many have said will be a sticking point. I wonder if US Trustee will file the same appeal? Another bankruptcy related note, I have noticed all LC's in my area pushing the Jamboree very hard. Wonder if national sees it as a cash cow? Past ones were not given this much attention. One last note LC hiring is in full swing. My LC has added 10 FT positions in the past few months, many new ones they have never had before. They are at 40% membership from 5 years ago. How do they fund all this and still have a bankruptcy contribution?

The LC's in my state are very optimistic of the future. They are hiring employees like crazy in the past month of so. Of the three councils I checked like 15 FTE's were added in the past month. Many were vacant positions but some are new ones. Seems like some may provide oversight to UMC units maybe. Either they know something or are going all in to try and increase membership.

I saw that too in one version of the plans. Not sure if it is in the current one.

I really think BSA running out of money before this is final is a big issue. If they burn through 8-10 million a month on average that was suggested not including bankruptcy costs, 83 million will not last long. Rechartering will help and surely HAB's made profit but in the end this could drag on for some time even if the plan is approved. I wonder how much the BSA foundation has available to loan national? This could buy time.

What do you think it costs to operate National for a month? 5 million? Under normal conditions not bankruptcy.