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  1. WisconsinMomma

    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    Our troop would rent Girl Scout camps out, but now they are not allowed to, and it hurts the GSUSA camps because now they're not getting our money. There are camps on beautiful pieces of property and I worry that they'll eventually get turned into subdivisions. Ew.
  2. WisconsinMomma

    How should I help my boy?

    Something is up with younger generations doing less volunteering. That said, we do have helicopter parents, and free-range parents, so I'm not sure what's going on. But the trend is on. I think there is less of a civic duty to volunteering and community involvement than there used to be. People move around more and spend more time online, so less time out in their neighborhoods. Not much we can do except be the change we want to see in the world. Good luck with your Scouting adventure and thanks for all you have done for the Cubs!!
  3. WisconsinMomma

    How should I help my boy?

    Based on what you are saying, I would suggest go visiting with other Troops in your area to make your life easier. Your son can find a new group of buddies to hang with and he will learn and grow more in a real patrol environment.
  4. WisconsinMomma

    Closure

    Barry, I can't even have a conversation with you when you're going down the path of saying that I'm over-sensitive, you're logical, and I'm too inexperienced to understand completely how men and women are different. I don't think you realize how patronizing those comments are.
  5. WisconsinMomma

    How should I help my boy?

    It's tough -- basic safety is important, but the kids need some room. Different people have very different tolerances for what is acceptable. The word that jumps out to me in your paragraph above is "punish". Giving instruction and setting boundaries is different from punishment. I don't know if tree climbing is covered in BSA guidelines, but I can understand that it could be a safety hazard. Some people take it too far. One of the former leaders in our troop that I did not get along with corrected my son for sliding his feet on an icy patch on the ground. He was 12. We said that it was micromanaging our son. He claimed that our son could have gotten a concussion and brain damage if he fell. I felt that that person wanted to bubble wrap my kid, and he was not SM or ASM (he was a my-way-only CC). It was not his job to manage our son. He got all huffy about safety, though. Sliding on a little patch of ice! Different points of view, for sure. You'll have to feel it out. Also, I do not get a lot of info from my husband or sons on Boy Scouts. It is frustrating and it took me a year to find a balance with learning how the troop works, and working out basic communication with my husband. However, my spouse goes on all the trips and is an ASM so he is plugged in, I just don't get much of a download. Your husband might be totally hands off and let the boy learn his own way. That can work, but sometimes the kids need support.
  6. WisconsinMomma

    How should I help my boy?

    OK, the son needs some support navigating a difficult situation, and for whatever reason, Dad is not that interested or involved, so Mom is going to help out. Of course the kid still has a dad. But if the kid wants to do Scouting and Dad isn't interested, then he will form other relationships with other Scouters.
  7. WisconsinMomma

    How should I help my boy?

    +1 You call the Scoutmaster and get the update on what exactly happened and where things stand for your son's membership in the Troop at this point in time. I would tell the Scoutmaster that my son would like to continue his membership if possible, and that at this point in time, you (mom) are the main contact for your family. See what he says, and go from there. Offer to talk through any concerns and a process for your son to come back under good terms. Try to make friends with the Scoutmaster and ask if they need any adult volunteers to help out -- so you can find a place in the Troop where you can network with other families and make more friends and a supportive community. If the Scoutmaster is resistant and does not welcome your son back, then go to Plan B and go start meeting with other Troops. Good luck!
  8. WisconsinMomma

    PW Derby Car from past year

    Our pack has nearly no rules for PWD. You make a car and we give out rough measurements for what will fit on the track. Hopefully, all the cars fit on the track and we make onsite modifications and repairs if cars are presented that won't make it down the track. We give fastest and second fastest in each Den awards, as well as best Design in each den awards, and everybody gets a small trophy with their name on it. Yes, we spend a lot on trophies. It works for us. We now have a batch of new parents who seem more rules-oriented, so that might evolve, but for my kids' duration in the pack, it's all about just seeing the car you made run the race.
  9. WisconsinMomma

    PW Derby Car from past year

    OK, imagine you are a 9 year old and your parents just had a nasty split brewing for who knows how many years, and you have a car you made with your Dad who is no longer around, and you and your Dad built this beautiful car together. I imagine, it's a treasure to you. Some adult tells you to take someone else's leftover car? No. That is for a kid whose family didn't have the time or resources to make anything and got caught unprepared. In our experience, this kid's car was slower the 2nd year because it wasn't tuned up or anything. But he had his cool car and I imagine and hope he has some happy memories of building that car. Pinewood derby is for the kids, not the parents, so the main concern should be -- are the kids having a good time? Are they being good sports?
  10. WisconsinMomma

    Closure

    I think what makes a troop vulnerable is when they are light on leadership manpower (heh, heh) and the new folks waltz in. Strong personalities can overpower the existing leadership. Remember that thread with the CC where a parent just showed up in uniform and started acting like he ran the place? It can get crazy out there.
  11. WisconsinMomma

    Closure

    This is not necessarily true, either. You can be sure she doesn't have formal BSA experience, but... take my friend, the daughter of a Montana forester, grew up in the outdoors, whose younger brother was in Scouts and she was always around. Now, does she know everything? No. Does she know some things? Absolutely. Nobody knows everything. I mean, if someone does know everything, they might be unteachable. My friend certainly has a lot to offer.
  12. WisconsinMomma

    PW Derby Car from past year

    I know a family where the mom and dad had a horrific breakup. The dad and son had worked on an incredible car the year before, and the boy ran it twice. I don't know if he had any chance to do another car the next year. Sometimes it's good to put kindness first and not get to picky about the circumstances.
  13. WisconsinMomma

    Closure

    It's "teachable female" that I'm taking issue with, as if, that's a rare combo. Perhaps I misunderstood the intent, but I've noted here that moms often get complained about, and --- they're part of the program too! Yes, I am nitpicking, but, I really don't want moms in general to have a bad rap in the BSA.
  14. WisconsinMomma

    Closure

    There are plenty of teachable females out there! Let's not let a few difficult parents dissuade anyone from making new Scouting friends. And I should take issue with the word "teachable" too -- how about -- females who are new to Scouting and interested in the program?? We really need to be careful just because some moms (and dads) are difficult, we don't generalize that all moms (or dads) who ever ask a question, want to participate, or haven't learned the ways of Scouting yet are terrible people.
  15. WisconsinMomma

    Closure

    Did the person ask you directly? In email? Face to face? Through someone else? I think that short and vague is the way to go, if you choose to reply at all. Something like, "My family has had X great years with Troop XYZ. Recently we've had struggles with campouts and other activities. (or other brief but not-too-specific or accusatory phrase of your choice) It was a difficult decision, especially with our long history and many friends in the troop, but it was the right time for us to move on and we are satisfied with that decision. We wish everyone in Troop XYZ all the best. " "Recently we've struggled with some issues related to the patrol method, advancement, and camping"
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