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Says who! I was watching the discussion with Wisconsinmomma and Eagle94 and concluded that scouting is quickly changing from a "Game with a Purpose" to a "After School" outdoor experience program. I respect Wisconsinmomma for her intentions of expanding her son's youth experiences, she is no different than most of us. Just like most new leaders, the instinctive nurturing nature limits the "Game" part of the program. And it's OK because without the experience of the "Game", she doesn't know what she doesn't know. But in the past, it was the experienced guys with a youth experienced that ba

To Direct where the you go? Absolutely not. To ask that you consider a troop? Sure. But the Scout needs to go where the Scout fits best. We tell that to every Webelos that visits our troop. I would much rather see a Webelos become a Scout in another troop than to drop out of Scouting because of a poor fit. Maybe joining a brand new troop would be a good opportunity for him if he wants to be a part of building something new, maybe it would not be good for him. At the end of the day what we owe the youth outweighs what a CC wants, what a CO thinks it is owed or what any Scoutmaste

This one paragraph, I believe, is a large part of the problem in many Scouters minds, and why you see so many negative reactions from them. badgering two ASMs because - every minute an ASM/SM spends with you is is a minute he does not spend with the youth. Not to mention badgering gets old.....and why are you asking rather than your son? I really wanted to know if there would be opportunities for my son - you wanted to know, not your son wants to know. What is important to the ASM/SM is what your son wants out of Scouting not what mom or dad think their son wants/needs to get out of

That should help.

Not that the choice is this but I'd much rather have a co-ed Troop that is youth led and focused on adventure rather than Eagle than a adult-led Eagle Mill. I fear we will end up with co-ed Eagle Mills. But I can hold out hope.

We have very few formal "rules" in this forum. The forum owner, @SCOUTER-Terry, prefers that the formal "rules" be kept to a minimum, leaving the moderators to handle things mostly on the principle of "common sense." I think it is "common sense" that the only people with "Moderator" in their "titles" should be Moderators. That is why I edited Stosh's profile. Terry has also stated on a number of occasions that complaints about the Moderators should be addressed directly to him in a private message or email, and not posted in the forum. Based on those statements, regardless of whethe

yes, very nice year I'd say, by the looks of it. I especially like that there seems to be a lot of scouts actually doing.... the team building problem solving stuff the pioneering stuff

To true. 90% of the problems we have in my troop are adult related. Good news is that my sons don't see the problems and want to stay. But they know I got the Scouts interest.

We thought for years we were brilliant in our recruiting and program but it turned out we met at a night that had less conflicts for most folks LOL.

Yes. As a cub master, you volunteered to support the scouting program of the Chartered Organization. It is not unreasonable for your CO to expect you to promote both of their registered units. You should agree to speak up for the troop. I am not saying that you should lie to the scouts or their parents. Be truthful. Tell them that it is their choice, but leave no doubt in anyone's mind that you volunteer for and support the CO's units.

I guess I should have added that our pack was not a "feeder pack" to any troop, in the sense that there was (and is) no troop associated with the same CO as (or meeting in the same place) as the pack. At the time, my son's pack was sort of a de facto feeder pack for the troop that he joined. The troop is the second-closest geographically to where that pack meets, and for the previous 10 years or so about 80 percent of the crossovers from that pack went to that troop. But tastes and habits change over time, and now about 90 percent of crossovers from that pack go to the other, slightly close

Are you a mom or an ASM or what? I forgot. That would help. My takes. (a) Why the heck not? As long as it doesn't compete with something else. Pitch as a trial. Have numbers. (b) If it is a non-refundable deposit, propose it for the following year. I too had to fight this battle but eventually they started letting the boys choose. (c) Yes and yes. Pick your battles. (d) See (c). Once or twice. Pay attention to the answer. (e) I'd be careful of that one. It is often between the SM and PLC. On the other hand in our Troop regular scouts can attend the PLC to observe. Have

No, he is in the wrong. All the scouts should visit and camp with the troops they are interested in. Give us his info and we will school him on scouting :-)

Scouts can choose their own troops, and your district should back you up on that. Have fun!

In short: No. Scouting is a voluntary activity. Allowing for the freedom to choose the type of Scouting experience they want is part of it. Scouts (and parents) are allowed to choose what unit they want to be a part of. Not every unit is going to be a good fit for every boy and vice versa. In fact, BSA makes it pretty clear that level of comfort is a key consideration in deciding what Troop Webelos are going to join: By the time Webelos Scouts are ready to cross over, they and their families should be familiar and comfortable with the youth and adult leaders of the troop, their role

No. At the end of the day, each individual scout picks his own troop.

WOW, If you were not in Tampa, I'd say you were in my troop. The parent who brought up the tent issue has $$$$$. He also "persuaded" the PLC to switch their camp out to a fundraiser. All said and done, since the troop provided 95% of the manpower ( and the 5% are coming to us tonite) , we got a larger share of the profits than we were entitled to by ticket sales. BUT in order to get it, he made made so that the money is limited to what he wants to troop to get: equipment. It's not enough to outfit the entire troop in new tents. He wants to make a donation to get additional tents. What he

I was about to write that I'm not so sure I agree with the idea that scouters that were scouts as boys have the advantage my thinking being that a scout coming up through an adult lead program really has no advantage....except maybe that they have first hand knowledge of a sub-par program. But do they know how to fix it? Do they even know that they need to fix it? Most folks just re[peat what they know. but your point about being a scout in the day that we roamed the neighborhood on our own probably adds a twist that i wasn't considering. I was a cub scout back in those d

I second. Close this thread and take the moderator squabble off-line. We're not interested.

I like the windy tents at about 1:29....brings back some memorable trip memories.

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Thank you! I'm blessed with a hugely keen group of scouts at the moment so there's always enough that want to do everything to make pretty much any event viable. I also have several who are as keen as me to get as many photos and video footage as possible of what they get up to so there's lots of material to put it together from. Incidentally the photo at 0:36 is what they left on my phone when I got some of them to look after it for me while I had a go on a climbing wall. Genuinely lovely photo that I intend to get printed and framed for my wall. I'd also recommend putting this kind

If they bend the rules for her, then why not change the whole 18 years old and out (seems arbitrary...right?). Maybe make retro Eagles for those that never attained the rank. I mean maybe the young man (or woman) could not find a troop that fit their needs. So let's make an exception. Maybe they were ADHD and could not effectively track the 12 weeks of chores so they did not complete Family Life...so let's make an exception. They were really busy and never were able to get to a city council meeting so they never got Cit in the Community back in the day, so let's make an exception. Etc E

And this is the classic example of why this whole thing isn't working. This girl doesn't want to be a Scout, she wants to be an Eagle, and the parent's agenda is solely focused on THEIR child getting something and have no interest in what's best for anyone else. Game on! (and there's no such thing as a win-win in any game.)

Better check out the bugs in the system, there's nothing that says one is restricted in anyway from putting whatever title they wish on the input screen title. One is restricted to only one screen ID, but that can change occasionally to a new unused ID. and the word moderators and members are affixed below the avatar. The point being, as long as one stays within the rules, they should be okay unless someone comes around making up new rules along the way that suits them. This then takes this thread back to where it belongs,