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Hawkwin last won the day on November 9 2018

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  1. Possibly. Not all YPT violations are intentional or willful. Good intentions but otherwise ignorance of the rules is just as likely a reason. My son's previous SM was violating the rules for advancement (adding requirements) and he thought he was clearly within the rules of GtoA - until I had to show him otherwise. He was less than happy about the fact that I escalated it to the district and eventually nationals because his continued unwillingness to budge - it took someone else to tell him he was wrong. I think the additional risk of him being made persona non grata by BSA if he had retaliated would most definitely have kept him from such actions for me reporting the incident. Thankfully in my case, that was not an issue but it easily could have been - and I have no protection in such a situation.
  2. Personal liability insurance doesn't protect the insured from a false accusation or being defamed. I get the sense that you are confused as to the protected party as it pertains to such insurance. If I have an excess liability policy that includes a clause for defamation, then that protection is for me if I defame someone else unknowingly or unwittingly (intentional defamation is excluded). It does nothing to protect me from being a victim of such. If the OP is being defamed, then additional insurance won't be a solution. Regardless, BSA should have a policy as it pertains to protecting whistleblowers from retaliation.
  3. Hawkwin

    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    For all in this thread, remember not all GSUSA units are the same just like not all troops are the same. The poor behavior of one troop or one SU is not necessarily indicative of the whole. While I have also seen examples of poor behavior by GSUSA units, let us not assume they represent the whole in the same manner they appear to be assuming a few BSA units that are recruiting incorrectly represent the whole.
  4. I have personal liability insurance and I am pretty sure it would not protect me from retaliation. If, for example, a scouter decides to remove me from the committee or exclude me from troop communications, there is no personal liability created by that action that insurance would offset. If a scouter goes so far as to tell me that my scout is no longer welcome in the troop, again, there is nothing that personal liability insurance would protect. BSA needs a policy that does not allow scouters or troops to retaliate when a person reports violations of BSA policy. And, if this council did indeed have to step in to stop an incident of hazing, corporal punishment, and other policy violations, those scouters in charge should probably have been at least suspended as well as removed from their leadership roles. Violations of YPT and all that.
  5. Facts entered into evidence: "The Council swiftly stopped the hazing, corporal punishment and inappropriate advancement procedures" The Council clearly indicates that something was wrong. The interpretation really isn't in question. So some retaliation is warranted? Your position is that a scouter is warranted in taking negative action toward a parent if that parent didn't follow some undefined procedure in trying to fix a hazing incident? What is more important, that we stopped a hazing incident that could have lead to suicide or that a parent didn't follow the chain of command? The point of the OP appears to be rather clear. Regardless if you think a scouter might be justified in retaliation in some circumstances (), BSA doesn't appear to have a policy in place that protects whistleblowers and that is a significant problem.
  6. Hawkwin

    Troopwebhost vs Scoutbook

    Unless something has changed, scouts should be able to see their advancement in Scoutbook too - no need to export to TWH.
  7. Hawkwin

    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    The rules allow for a scout to display skills learned prior to joining a troop so a well organized group of scouts and scouters may have completed the Cyber Chip before the troop became official. "...simply demonstrate your knowledge or skills to your Scoutmaster or other designated leader after joining the troop." Many new scouts achieve Scout rank at their first scout meeting.
  8. I think it is just getting started. Little cubs with ponytails is one thing, having young female adults in tan uniforms leading troops in public and at various scouting events will likely be another - and draw more attention and media. The next two years will be full of various "firsts."
  9. Hawkwin

    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    Per the NPR story, it doesn't seem to matter if you won in the past. Each time there is a new case, you run the risk of THAT court deeming it generic. Your status as the defendant or the plaintiff probably doesn't matter. DuPont probably won every defense of their copyright for Cellophane; until they didn't.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    Interesting story on NPR this week that made me think about this situation. The "Chose Your Own Adventure" publishing company is suing Netflix for copyright infringement because they use such in one of their shows. The NPR story indicated that the publisher is taking a risk in that the courts may decide that "chose your own adventure" has become generic and that they might actually commit "Genericide." The GSUSA runs the risk that the court could say that the term "scout" is generic and as such, no one may copyright it. From NPR: https://www.npr.org/2019/01/24/688110253/adventure-series-book-publisher-sues-netflix-over-trademark The word zipper was originally a trademark for a toothed closure. But people started using the word zipper for any toothed closure, and that trademark became worthless. It became generic. Aspirin, thermos, escalator - just a few onetime trademarks that have succumbed to genericide.
  11. ??? If you want to argue the validity of their rule, that is fine, you are welcome to take it up with them. That doesn't keep them from having the rule despite what your opposing opinion. You asked what they should sign up for at camp. I replied that some STATES (as in state law) councils and camps restricted shooting based on age at their facilities so for first year scouts, there might be better alternatives. I didn't comment on eligibility. I commented on what may be allowed at summer camp. You seem to infer that I am personally opposed to shooting for 11 year olds when in fact, I am simply trying to inform you and others of the obstacles one might face. For example, take this thread from this very site: Lastly, there may be an assumed maturity issue at play that has nothing to do with physical ability. A .22 is still a deadly weapon and some states, councils, and camps might find that their insurance rates are better if they restrict such activity to older youth.
  12. Note that some states, councils and specific summer camps restrict shooting activities by age. Rifle and other shooting sports might be better suited as a recommendation for second or third year scouts. As an alternative, water craft MBs would be a good fit for summer camp as they not only require large(r) bodies of water, they also require otherwise expensive craft that scouts and scouters may not have access to otherwise. My other recommendation would be to take those that are very difficult to complete within your troop or council due to required expertise and/or lack of MBCs. Scuba immediately comes to mind.
  13. Hawkwin

    Are there any female Scout Executives in the US?

    You might find this of interest as well: https://scoutingwire.org/these-5-women-made-scouting-history/
  14. Hawkwin

    Are there any female Scout Executives in the US?

    Yes. Both at District and of course Nationals. Edit: Could not remember her name so had to go look her up. Not sure if you consider this position "executive" or not: https://www.scoutingnewsroom.org/about-the-bsa/national-leadership/national-commissioner-volunteer/
  15. If only it would end there. I have seen information copied from social media where the contact information for the school, the principal, the superintendent, and the diocese has been posted to allow people to share their "opinion" about just how wrong the students were. With the rush to judgment comes for some the rush to respond - usually in less than helpful ways.