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Everything posted by HelpfulTracks

  1. L.L.Bean to embed IoT sensors in coats and boots

    Nah, they are just arguing two very different scenarios. Col. Flagg is talking transmission. He is correct that without the transmission data doesn't do much good. If this tech is using NFC, then there MUST be an intermediary communication device, because unless things have changed recently, NFC is good for a max of a few inches. And then that device needs to be able to retransmit to the larger network. Though I will say that during some FEMA training, the instructor said that most SAR actions take place in urban areas. FEMA even has an Urban SAR group. So data transmission may not be as much a factor in Urban areas with technology (assuming the victim has tech........and it's working........ and it is on....... and communicates useful data) Schiff is talking data value. I believe he is saying that data provided by these type devices may improve search and rescue efforts. He is right, more and better data are almost always a good thing if it is available I guess I would ask another question, assuming your fancy new duds, tracked the right kind of data, and they were able to transmit that data, what would be the trigger for emergency response or SAR? I mean, did my heart rate tracking stop because a tree fell on my head or because my base layer malfunctioned? Then, how do you bridge the communication gap? The SAR folks looking for me will likely not know who my clothing is talking too. The guy monitoring me in Mumbai probably won't know who to call to forward the data too. I mean, we can't get two different law enforcement agencies to talk to each other, I would be stunned if anyone could pull that trick off. All this tech is cool, but there are still major limitations.
  2. Job opening at National

    No, it is alive and well. The branding changed, the delivery model changed, pricing structure changed. But other than versioning upgrades. the products are the same and growing. Though I admit it is a strange app suite given the job, most of the tools are professional level design tools, overkill for those not in that industry.
  3. Sad sign of the times

    I am not arguing that free speech should be against the law, in fact, I served to defend the Consitution and those rights. Unfortunately, many people are in fact unwilling/unable to engage in civil debate, particularly among our elected officials who seem to think their primary purpose is to get elected/re-elected rather than serve. And as adamant as I am about defending all of the rights in the Consitution, you are incorrect that in the assertion that the 2nd amendment is a blanket protection against any legislation.
  4. YPT

    I have, and is missing coed training. I called National thinking I had taken the wrong course (it also has same number as Boy Scout YPT, Y01). But that was the correct course as it now covers all programs. I don’t think there are any additional modules unless they decide the current set does serve their purpose. I was/am surprised the was such a difference between old Venturing YPT and new all encompassing version.
  5. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    I apologize, you sir are correct. I even found the 1996 memo that canceled this policy. It appears this rule was enacted sometime after 1980 and done away with in 1996, so I still fail to see how it is responsible, in whole or part, to any perceived downfall of the OA.
  6. Sad sign of the times

    @.40AET, please do not leave the board or even the discussion. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as is @CalicoPenn In my opinion, one of the major problems with our society is the urgency with which we settle into a position, and how entrenched we become, during (or even prior to) a discussion. Too often we weaponize debate and there is no real chance to have a discussion that might help solve a problem. If you are for gun control legislation you are for tyranny and against individual rights if you are against gun control legislation you are for murdering children and against public safety. We are all to blame for where we are. The politicians stake out hardline partisan positions and hold on to them doggedly in order to get reelected because not solving a problem gives them something to rail against, but nothing to be accountable for. The media promotes the partisan conflict and 30 second sound bites because conflict sells and they want to gain viewers/readers.subscribers. Or worse, depending on the media outlet, they have staked out their own positions and rather than report, they lobby. And "we the people" reward them by continuing to send the same buffoons back to DC, even though 80+ percent of us disapprove of the job they are doing.
  7. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    Mediocracy isn't about grades, ranking or competition. Mediocracy occurs because people settle for something less than what is capable. In Scouting, that bar is the oath and law. Not merit badges, or rank, or OA. There are those Scouts that exemplify the oath and law and there are those that do not. There are Scouts that do not earn a sash full of merit badges or achieve Eagle or get into the OA, who absolutely exemplify the oath and law in their lives. And Eagles that do not. But if an adult leader does not expect a Scout to live the oath and law, and lets him slide by when he is not, then the SM is settling for mediocrity and not doing that young man any favors.
  8. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    Perhaps I am remembering the wrong poster, if so I apologize. But the level of negativity on this board by so many toward Scouting is astounding. I lost both of my parents when I was a teenager. Had my Scout leaders been as negative as many on this board, I wouldn't have stuck with scouting and no telling where I would have ended up. Scouting isn't perfect, but what is.
  9. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    The is a very good approach. Last year I was to oversee 2 different elections in one night, with different elections teams. We scheduled one for the first half of the meeting and the other for the second half. When I arrived, the adult OA member who had brought several of the team, talked the troop onto go ahead and holding the election. Initially, I was fine with that. But after the meeting, as I was talking to the Scoutmaster, he told me the adult leader insisted that everyone turn in a ballot because they only had a little over 50% of their troop there, otherwise they couldn't hold the election. Although the adult OA member was wrong, the SM had no idea. So all of his brand new crossovers turned in blank ballots. Out of 7 Scouts on the ballot, 2 were elected, 2 more would have been had the election been run properly. The SM was not happy. There were proposed bylaws changes to prevent this in the future.
  10. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    I do not agree that what OA represent is dead. I do agree with what you say about today's adults. But that is, in fact, an opportunity for strong SM's to lead. I make no bones that I believe Eagle Scout is NOT a participation Trophy and that I do not expect every Scout, or even very many, to achieve that distinction. I preach the same about OA, it is where hard work and service is not just the expectation, it is an obligation. And if you want to be part of it you better work your hardest to prove you are a first-rate Scout. I get some dirty looks from adults, and the occasional objection/argument, which always falls flat because there is no real argument against it. The youth buy in almost universally to the concept. Regardless of where you serve in Scouting, you have the opportunity to strengthen the whole. Hold the standard and others will eventually follow. Som will follow because they see the effects, some will follow out of embarrassment. But most follow or give up and get out. We have a Scoutmaster in this area like that, he sets such a good example I have even heard the SE say we need to get this right because we don't want to get the stare from the SM.
  11. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    From 1980 Handbook, pg. 49 under Unit Election Procedure "There is no fixed quota. All eligible boys who receive votes from at least 50% of those who turn in ballots are elected." I have never read anything that differed from that, from prior material or in the interim. I have never even heard anything materially different stated before.
  12. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    That is not the rule. A Scout can vote for everyone/anyone on the ballot. It has always been so. You need 50% of the Troop present in order to hold a vote, and you need 50% of the ballots cast to be elected. Honestly, I cannot remember reading a single post of yours that is not negative towards Scouting.
  13. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

  14. I subscription to GTAYOP principle of advancement.
  15. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    You are indeed correct sir!
  16. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    In the true spirit of political correc........ I mean safety, it is now called Call Out, and no contact is allowed.
  17. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    Announcing immediately, doing their own Call out or waiting for a district/council Call Out ceremony is at the discretion of the Scoutmaster. As is who he informs. Most SM's share the info with their OA Rep and his Adviser, but it is his call. The OA Rep and Adviser often assist the election team, but may or may not be involved in counting the vote.
  18. Why do you need 50% of troop there for an election??

    The 50% rule is a national rule. It is designed for fairness. Believe it or not, not all Scouts are trustworthy. Is it an arbitrary percentage? Probably, but the idea is that if you have half the troop you will get a somewhat representative vote. It is also to prevent small groups from dominating the process in order to ensure certain Scouts get elected and certain Scouts don't. The is no national rule against emailing troops to remind/urge them to request an election. In fact, National encourages those emails go out. The OA are invited to conduct elections, we are guest and do not show up uninvited, not to mention we want to show up when the troop is prepared.
  19. Are Scouts Really Experiencing the Patrol Method?

    We have a nice solution for maintaining that knowledge/history/esprit de corp etc. Our "Committee" is made up of a large number former course directors. They are not official staff, but they are part of our Wood Badge family and add so much to our courses. They are great as resources for participants, but even more so for the staff. They are our wise sages, advisers, storytellers, song-masters and cheerleaders.
  20. Are Scouts Really Experiencing the Patrol Method?

    Those are very nice, I have them as well. Mine are from different printings but both are 3rd handbooks. I love the old books and anytime I can find one in good shape I try to add it to my collection. They are full of great knowledge and history of Scouting. It is also interesting to see how things are different and the same. My oldest dates back to 1922.
  21. Are Scouts Really Experiencing the Patrol Method?

    I agree with some of your post and cannot disagree with some of it. So I'll just make a few points. I use the syllabus as just that, an outline. The syllabus even states the as a trainer we need to fill the gaps. The syllabus actuall covers very little of the real material, most of what is needed is found elsewhere I am careful about who I chose to be trainers, because I am a radical evangelist for boy-led and patrol method. If you are not living/teaching that, then no thank you When I have new trainers, I am always nearby to step-in and assist/set the record straight When I do teach alone or with one or two others I know well, we often hit the syllabus high-points and make it more conversational, so we can participants can ask questions Everything I have read, even GBB's writings, the troop serves a purpose, but the patrol this the foundation When you boil down the actual training (depending on how Gathering/opening and closing are handled) there is only 3-1/2 to 4 hours of training. Some sections could easily have that much time devoted to them, Patrol Method, Annual planning, Advancement come to mind. Because much of what SM/ASM's walk in the door knowing, needs to be unlearned, which take even longer than teaching. Unfortunately, longer training will not happen, as it is increasingly difficult to get people to take a half day out of their schedule for training now I do use the Meeting plan and Troop Program Features to teach, but I also teach them how to use them based on where a troop is in their boy-led cycle. I used them in my units to get Scouts accustomed to making plans and using PLC for troop decisions, based on the Patrols decisions. I teach using it as a guide and once they have grasped that I tell them use it/alter it/throw it out as they see fit. A meeting, outing, activity needs to be what the Scouts want, not what the book or SM says. If PLC wants 100% of the time as Patrol time, more power to them. If they want none of it because they regularly meet as patrols, outstanding. To be honest, I do better teaching/training and coaching from my Commissioner position, I can actually see units in action, and talk about Patrol method and boy-led and give advice I am not sure it sounds like it with the post, but I am 100% in tune with you on Patrol Method and Boy-led. Which is why I spend so much time (and money) with old Scouting books and material, I want to make sure I have everything available to make every Scouts experience the best it can be. Maybe I stray too far away from the BSA company line in some folks eyes, but I prefer to look at the syllabus as a guide on what to cover. I expound on the different areas as time allows, which to me really is the problem, not enough time.
  22. Are Scouts Really Experiencing the Patrol Method?

    I guess it is a matter of perspective. If you know the material then it may seem like a waste of time. For others, there is not nearly enough time. Then I have those who "know all about it", that are consistently wrong in their approach. During my last SM Specific class I had two brand new Scoutmasters, who, by their own admission, did not know a thing. I could have spent two days with them and not answered all their questions. I have also have those that argue with me because "his boys can't handle that much authority and responsibility." I am perplexed at the out of date comment, when most would argue we need to be going back to methods from the 20's and 30's. As for Training the Trainer, I'll go back to my original comment about not enough time. I have taken the T3 course and I think the subject was short shifted due to trying to cram too much into a short period of time, it only allowed for highlights and superficial teaching. I was (still am) a trainer long before I got into Scouting, so while I agree that those courses are lacking, I look back to my professional training and there is not comparison in terms of the time spent compared to BSA. I guess that reflects the idea that people are willing ot take the time if their livelihoods are at stake but they are not as interested if it is volunteer work.
  23. Are Scouts Really Experiencing the Patrol Method?

    I am not sure what materials you are referencing, but I have taught SM/ASM Specific using the last 2 Syllabi, dating back to 2010, and the Patrol method is very much a part of that training. In fact, we break the group of trainee's into patrols as well. Then we use the patrol method during IOLS and Wood Badge. The training far too short for the amount if information we are trying to teach, but it is there. And if trainers are following the program, they are teaching it. I keep reading that we do not teach patrol method anymore, but it is just not true, at least not in my Council. And I hear we do not teach it the "old" way, but I have dozens of old hard bound books dating back to the 1920's and many more on PDF. I constantly reference them for teaching a wide range of classes. For the most part, what we are teaching reflects Patrol Method as it was then and now. Troops putting those lessons in action may be an entirely different story, but Patrol method is certainly being taught.
  24. Age requirement guidelines

    Safety has not been a specific topic for IOLS since at least 2010, I cannot say before that. First Aid was removed a couple of years ago however. Safety, is a part of IOLS throughout the scheduled training though, just not a specific topic. I do occasionally see classes on G2SS at University of Scouting and other events. I will say that it is difficult to get volunteers to training, so there is a constant effort to reduce the in person training in order to make it more appealing. In doing so, volunteers are offered less and less. But it is a vicious cycle. I cannot not tell you how many SM's have told me they have been a Scout and Scouter for XX years, and they don't need training, as I watch them go off and "command" their unit and lead/teach things incorrectly.
  25. Scouting is doomed

    To you list I will add: Complaining about is problem is MUCH easier than rolling up your sleeves and working to fix it.