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    • Agree with that line of thinking...  make it an honor to be earned & recognized for again, and make senior patrols of OA Scouts in units the centerpiece ... with emphasis on unit and community service. There is too much emphasis on serving the Lodge, rather than serving your unit or the community.  So much so, that the Lodge and the OA have become a self-licking ice cream cone (yes, I've used that phrase before...)  That is, for most of the Lodges I have seen since the early 2000's, the Lodge exists to serve itself.  This is one avenue where the OA has gone wrong...  Hopefully, some of you out there have vastly different experiences.
    • I like the OA. I've got lots of good memories from my youth and the admonition has stuck with me as an adult. That said, I wouldn't be upset if it folded. Lax membership standards and concerns over Native American cosplay have left the OA in rough shape. One underrated benefit of ending the OA program would be a boost in Venturing participation. Right now, they function as parallel senior scout programs, but a strong chapter could easily function as a Crew and continue providing service to its district and local camps. If the OA were to continue in present form, I'd consider eliminating elections in favor of a universal standard such as: 50 Nights of Camping 50 Hours of Community Service Star Rank Completion of Ordeal
    • More to participate in the endowment donation program. 
    • Maybe the answer is to make it significant again and not just a notch on the belt for someone.  When it was an Honor Camping Society that encouraged camping on the unit and council levels, and had real standards to be elected, including limits, and councils did not sell off camps to survive, it was viable.  Now it is pretty much a memory for we old people and that notch I noted.  No, that would make some people unhappy to have real entry standards.  An Honor Scoity for Scouts and Scouters should actually present an aura of honor one might think.  A few still do, but it is no longer a mystery or has it any real reason to exist.  Just an observation.  
    • Does anyone have the stats on OA membership over the past few years? The section below concerns me. Has the OA fallen so much, that temporary units can now have elections? depending upon when the election is held, folks may not know anyone to judge them worthy or not. EDITED. Found OA annual reports here  https://oa-scouting.org/resources/publications/impact-report   In the 2014 report, we had 171,211 Arrowmen registered. In the 2024 annual report, we had 98,473 registered Arrowmen. That is a 43% drop in 10 years!
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