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    • The Troop is starting to plan for this trip. With all the uncertainty about the BSA's future, if we pay a reservation deposit and maybe even a few payments what happens if there is a liquidation before our trip. Is the money lost?
    • There has been no agreement as to what is minimally required to allow the BSA to continue to operate/function and I would further say the sides are far apart. After nearly a year of Chapter 11:     1. There are ongoing asset evaluations by both sides , however,  there has been no ruling whether local Council assets are on the table.     2. Insurance responsibility (payouts) remains a question.    3.  There is a complete creditor list (guess who is at top of the list)    4. There is a bounded victim list (95,000 which is  far more than estimated) though not yet verified.    5. As I recall, the BSA has a May deadline to present their restructuring plan to the Court. As to the disposition of BSA pensions and health plans in this bankruptcy, that remains to be seen. https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-bankruptcy-of-employer https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ebsa/about-ebsa/our-activities/resource-center/fact-sheets/your-employers-bankruptcy.pdf https://today.westlaw.com/Document/Ie0435490521211ebb50ccd189a1f9b53/View/FullText.html?contextData=(sc.Default)&transitionType=Default&firstPage=true My $0.01 for rambling,
    • The threat was "National" because of the pension factor. As for HA, OA, Councils, they simply said "National" so how broad that is wasn't clear and the Key-3 (really the Council President) who was discussing this was trying to give us as much information as possible without getting in trouble with the lawyers about ongoing legal discussions/negotiations. The idea is what would Plaintiffs (and their clients) rather have? An alive, but crippled, BSA National that can at least pay SOMETHING. Or a liquidated BSA National that has to pay out all pension plans for all former and current BSA employees and THEN give the plaintiffs the scraps.  
    • Liquidate National only or all of the BSA (Councils, high adventure, OA, etc)?
    • To test it, I mentioned it to my son tonight.  And he said that is interesting but I am not going to go back and count up all my nights.  I said we could do it together and he said no thanks.  I asked him how many nights he thinks he has camped with cubs, troops, ship, crew.    He said "a lot"....   🙂  
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