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  1. Even at the most basic level of participating in the BoR, it seems the scout did not fulfill that requirement. The content, tone, or delivery of the questions almost doesn't matter. If there was basically no participation by the scout, regardless of how the board felt about his responses he really did not "complete" a BoR. The requirement doesn't say "show up and sit there". It says "successfully complete" a BoR. Even just saying "I'm sorry, I'm a bit nervous," is more useful to a board and can at least initiate a conversation or allow the board to adjust their questions to make
  2. The faith component is weird lately. I get parents coming to me saying they want nothing to do with it, which I then have to kind redirect to say, "Well we have a reverence requirement but your family can choose to approach that however you see fit, just let me know when you and your scout have completed it..." And then I have parents who want to do a group prayer at every meeting, and they're not really interested in a prayer that isn't specifically Christian. Meanwhile the BSA seems to give us very little in the way of guidance on this other than that note in the Cub handbooks sayi
  3. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but removing a scout without a reason specific to that scout (behavior, bullying, dangerous actions, etc), is probably not something that a CC can do. They can ask a leader to step down, or eventually remove a leader, but removing a scout without cause seems like a stretch of the CC's authority. At least not without the COR rep being the one to say the scout has to go.
  4. It wasn't a murder but that doesn't mean that nothing criminal took place. Negligence can be criminal. It doesn't sound like anything criminal happened, but any further investigation would hopefully confirm the police findings of an accidental discharge.
  5. I think it's a problem, but not the problem in and of itself. It's more a combo of things. He's unhappy with the greater personal responsibility he has in a troop vs. a pack where advancement is almost automatic, you just have to show up and do what you're asked. He also is indicating that he is in scouts because of me, but I know he also has a lot of fun on some of the trips and had an absolute blast at summer camp. So I'm trying to decipher if he feels maybe I got him into this and he's still doing it because of me or if he's doing it because he enjoys it or not.
  6. I think he feels like he would be considered a "snitch" if he speaks up. Especially when dealing with kids that are a few years older than him. I also highly doubt the adult leaders know anything about any of this going on to even be able to try and deal with it. The troop is very much scout-led, which is great, but it also means the adults stay as far away from the scouts as they can, camping in separate areas and unlikely to even know when some tent flipping or bad language is going on. I'm torn between wanting to step in and mention this to the adults vs. trying to give him space
  7. I'm pretty impressed he was this articulate about it , being a kid that just turned 12 a week ago. I had a few times in my teens when I wanted to quit and I never had a good reason. Usually something like "it's stupid" or "I look like a dork in the uniform". I never had a good reason, but I think I wanted to be too cool for scouts. Which kind of get to me more in this situation because he has real reasons to not want to continue. Not just angsty pre-teen/teenager stuff. If I make any kind of deal with him about it, I think I'd like it to be that he completes a full year before making
  8. I'm not going anywhere, I'm a Den Leader for a Wolf den. And if my daughter sticks with it through Arrow of Light I might be a Troop Founder and SM in a few years, as it doesn't look like anyone else in my town is going to start a girls troop.
  9. I think he's being honest enough with me to know that it could be a social issue, but I'm not seeing that as the main issue at this point. He mentioned that on the last camping trip some younger scouts were messed with a bit. Nothing terrible, just some older scouts shaking the tents late at night, although one tent with some first-year scouts inside was flipped over. My son didn't seem too bothered by it, but it's something I will want to ask him about again. He also was kind of shocked by a couple of scouts who used some particularly bad language often. I don't doubt that kind of stuff
  10. My son joined a troop in March at crossover from a Pack where he started as a Tiger. He went to summer camp in July, had a blast, didn't finish any merit badges but did the First Year Camper program. That 90 minute car ride home when I picked him up was 90 full minutes of him talking about the week at camp and how much fun he had. I thought he was hooked. He did the usual stuff since, went weekend camping, helped at a service project, went on a couple of local hikes, attends the weekly meetings, etc. He told me over the weekend that he wants to quit. He doesn't like camping (he
  11. A simple Swiss Army Knife works well for Bears. But just keep in mind that when your scout crosses over to a troop, they will likely want a different knife. SAKs are less popular with older scouts, and when that first-year Scout sees the older scouts with single-blade locking knives, that's what they will be asking for. Get something simple to cover the Bear/Webelos years, and then be ready to replace it once they join a Troop. Also if you happen to have an heirloom knife that was maybe yours or your dad's that you want to pass down to your scout, save it until they are older. I held
  12. Lions was a good idea in theory, but in practice it isn't working. Nor did I really expect it to. I had my daughter skip it and join as a Tiger, which sometimes I think might even still be too young for kids to start in scouts. Lions is super repetitive with other rank requirements. I have already heard from scouts who joined as tigers saying things like "We did this already," for the stuff that is already repetitive among the Tiger-through-AOL ranks. Lions just adds yet another year of repeated material. Lions parents end up feeling like they are getting a somewhat limited program b
  13. Why is anyone upset about this now? There have been video game columns/articles in Scout Life for years, we have merit badges for game design, digital technology, programming, robotics. Bryan on Scouting blogged about video game tournaments for scouts more than a year ago. This is already here and has been for a while. I don't view tech as antithetical to the spirit of scouting. And devices aren't going away, they are a part of everyday life and I think we need to adapt to using them in a scouting setting.
  14. There is a range of price points for various activities, and numerous variables. Location, fundraising, included items (some units give neckerchiefs and handbooks to scouts as part of their dues), etc., all factor in. But all of that considered, I think it's still fair to say that Cub Scouts is at least within that range of average cost relative to any other activity. Personally (and locally) I'd argue that scouting here is cheaper than sports. But to not over generalize, I could amend that to say Cub Scouts locally is no more expensive that most youth sports, and taking into consideratio
  15. Parents tell me that, but I personally don't see it because Cub Scouts is year-long. $150 annual dues plus trip/activities fees of maybe $100 for the year (our Pack keeps trip fees to $15 or less per family) and let's say $50 in other incidental purchases, I'm looking at $300 for a whole year. My daughter plays soccer and it's over $200 for a season, just a few months. Cub Scouts on a seasonal/quarterly basis would be $50. Even if I throw in the $250 summer camp cost, it's $550 per year, $125 per quarter/season. Sure, $550 is a big chunk of change. But spread out over a yea
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