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  1. Wëlënakwsu

    Juvenile Offenses and Ethics

    Another $0.02... The Scout should have a Scoutmaster Conference. I think the Guide to Advancement says so and perhaps in some small way a Conference might help his problems. It's a separate issue if you do not sign the Eagle Scout Rank Application Unit Leader approval. If it was me, I think I would tell the Scout during the Conference my position on approving his Application.
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    Starting a Crew out of a Troop - Need advice

    Basis first hand experience... Crew meeting at same time/place as Troop with joint open/close and as-needed resource is no different than a "high adventure patrol", only with more bureaucracy of a separate Committee. This is especially true since you mention possibly requiring older Scouts to join the Crew combined with concern about boys leaving the Troop for the Crew. Consider also future issues if a co-ed Crew meets together with all boy Troop. Regarding older boys leaving the Troop for the Crew... This may not be a major concern or Troop active membership loss since you're trying to keep older boys whose Troop involvement is waning involved in Scouting. Generally... if the Venturing program is better for them... they should leave. One possible option: Perhaps Crews do not have to meet weekly and thus with a lesser time commitment, perhaps some boys could maintain Crew and Troop involvement. I assume CO would be same for both Crew and Troop. If so... strongly suggest COR be the same for Crew and Troop. Do it right ie separate meetings and do not require older Scouts to enroll. Venturing Crews are more independent of their adult advisors than Boy Scouts... start now involving the older Scouts in what they want. PS: If the Crew and Troop does meet together, a major benefit I've seen is a way to keep 18-20 year olds registered as youth members.
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    I HATE the new YPT rules

    Tiger DL attending Camp-O-Ree… isn’t this up to the Troop or District? New female Webelos not attending Camp-O-Ree… it’s for the better. A Webelos age girl joins Pack with no other Webelos girls is put in co-ed Den with no female Leader. New girl is then invited to attend a Camp-O-Ree occurring a few weeks later under the auspices by a boy’s Troop that has no female Leader that goes camping. In my summary… while well intentioned , inviting her was a mistake. It does not work starting a new Den or Troop with only one potential Scout. Two woman leaders are acceptable for boys, but two men are not for girls… if I could rule by edict… I’d require two adults, one of which must be male for boy Dens and Troops! In 2014 Scouting Magazine cited 41% of American children being raised by single mothers and Scouting’s value of male role models.
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    Senior Scouts taking Youth Protection Training

    What I think... YPT for overnight volunteers: Unless required by CO, why made additional rules? Inform them of no one on one contact, but apply BSA criteria of 72 hours. YPT for parents: Recommend... No. / Inform... Yes as simple as a sheet summarizing CO and BSA Youth Protection (inmcluding YPT online opportunity and abuse reporting #) in your new Scout registration papers. YPT for older scouts: Recommend... No. In normal course they shoulod be aware of buddy system, no one on one adult/youth, tenting age differences, etc Keep It Simple... Minimize Troop rules, bylaws, administration,
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    Scouting Magazine - betting the farm on girls

    Alas... for too many adults their BSA involvement focuses on a continuation of earning awards (knots, beads) or progressing to higher office (Unit, District, Council...) and less with mentoring youth. My Wood Badger story... it's pouring rain and I knock on camp's training center door in afternoon asking if we can have our Camp-O-Ree campfire in the big room. The trainer's answer... "...no Boy Scouts allowed..." (in a scout camp!) End of story.... that night window was un-locked, crawl in, open door, have campfire and "left no trace". If the BSA is betting the farm on girls, besides offering girls membership there should be changes to support the change. For too many Scouters the administration of Scouting is complicated and the addition of girls adds to the challenges. The solution the BSA offers is training which in my experience varies too much. I would re-allocate BSA professional staff and place the leadership and management of training to professional trainers (aided by volunteers).
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    New Cubmaster with a co-ed pack

    Carefully consider and soul search your long term plan... truly separate boy & girl Dens or mixed Dens. If you have her meet with the boys, it becomes harder to switch later and will start a precedent for the program your Pack offers, ie as designed by Scouts BSA or your own version. It's late August and I suggest making a placement decision for this girl Bear after the results of September recruitment and enrollment. If others her age join and you get "critical mass"... easy decision! If she is still the only older girl Cub and the plan is to offer separate boy & girl Dens, I would ponder the prospects for girl Webelos enrollment next year and for this girl Bear this year: (1) regretfully advise the family that the Pack cannot accommodate her this year. OR (2) She meets in the "one room school house" girl Cub Den with the Tigers, with extra attention and duties.
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    Cost of Being a Scout

    Regarding "... starting up a unit..." Budget for Patrol/Troop equipment like tents, cooking utensils, axes, saws, flags, rope and all the other assorted camping & meeting supplies. $40 annual dues might cover awards and some replacement of equipment but not the initial outlay. Some Chartered Organizations might fund the initial outlay... otherwise start fundraising... PS: Don't forget Boy's Life... optional at least !
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    Unit milestone anniversary - What to do?

    Rather then emphasis on the Cubs… recognize the Chartered Organization with a certificate or plaque presentation from the Pack or District. Do this at an already scheduled event Pack Meeting, Blue & Gold Dinner, etc rather add another event and increase the time demands on people. Be sure to arrange write up in the appropriate newsletters, bulletins and newspaper. Keep any insignia or neckerchief within BSA rules which might preclude a neckerchief for Cub Scouts. As the budget permits, a practical memento would be pack numerals with veteran bar (cost $6-$8) https://www.scoutshop.org/three-digit-custom-unit-numeral-with-veteran-bar-10413.html or the Anniversary Bar ($1.29) https://www.scoutshop.org/75-year-veteran-unit-bar-emblem-107.html.
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    Just curious about background

    Am I ok with it, is it the way to go, can it be a good program ? YES Excited about girls in BSA ?... Alas, NO All girl Dens or Troops can work and be a good program... but I suspect many Units in my Council who opt for girls do not have the ability, desire, leadership, talent, etc to do it as perscribed. The shortcomings exasperated but insufficient oversight by the Chartered Organization and Council. Co-ed OA... gotta think and learn more on that. If I could wave a magic wand... Détente and cooperation, if not merger, between BSA National Council and GSUSA Background: Many senior Council, District, Troop and youth positions
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    Scout Dishonesty During an Eagle Project

    A Committee should not speak with the Scout, leave this to the Scoutmaster and perhaps Eagle Scout Service Project Coach. I prefer smaller "working group" rather then a Committee, especially when sensitive, emotional, etc situations are involved. Thus the parents could meet with a delegation of the Committee (Chair, Advancement, etc) and maybe Scoutmaster. If you wanted to bar the parent(s) from Troop functions and involve Chartered Organization property... yeah you should consult with the COR and/or IH.
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    Summer camp - too many adults?

    Yes... too many. I can understand the adults desire to go, but it's a boy's camp. Too many adults interfere the boys handling there own affairs. Remember too that in addition to your Troop's adults you have the camp staff adults providing supervision. I would comfortably take 30 to summer camp with 2 or 3 adults. The tough part will be deciding who goes. Maybe a few can split the week(s).
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    Unit number change and embracing the new

    Use official number 365 for all official purposes, especially registrations. Web address ourtownpack5 should link to ourtownpack365. IT may take years for a new number to be universally accepted... still better then two numbers. If 365 is a combo of consolidated Pack numbers, that makes sense to retain the heritage of the Units. But if your number went from a single digit # to a three digit number ending in #... are you sure it was because of consolidation rather than changes in the Councils registration system. In similar changes the registrar in my Council was able to create a number like "005" in the system.
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    Advice on Treasury Related Conflict

    It seems to me the main issue the Treasurer has is incurring and reimbur5sement a $75 expense that may not have had prior approval. It is not at all unreasonable in any organization for an expense in excess of petty cash to be approved before payment/deduction/reimbursement. "Whats done is done", so I would report the $75 to the Committee, but not discuss it. But... with the transition between Treasurers... the Committee discussion should be what the expense policy & procedure is and communicate it to the Den and Pack leaders. If the Treasurer's duties are "too much for one person to handle"... for many reasons give consideration to eliminating "scout's account(s)"
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    Mayor Give Pack Awards?

    Yes, involve the Mayor ! I assume those who object is not involve any political position. If not an award presentation, maybe leading the Cub Scout Promise in the opening ?
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    Who discussed BSA branding at Hong Kong conference?

    Probably nil BSA products sold outside the USA. Assuming main buyers are BSA members buying patches and T Shirts, $75 mil from 2 mill people seems reasonable. Reading the magazine article footnote, the revenues may be self reported. Not much representation on the list from Asian companies. Many companies probably will not disclose such proprietary info. Thus the list is not "global" and not all encompassing. Many organizations are self promoting themselves to attract licensees, like the BSA... http://www.licensingbsa.org/ I hope the BSA has a stringent review process of the product & manufacturer to maintain a high quality image and we'll not find BSA logos on products at the $1 store or a product safety recall!