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Ranman328

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About Ranman328

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  • Birthday 03/28/1969

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    East Coast
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    Federal Government
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    Scouting, camping, golf, baseball, home projects
  • Biography
    I am a 14 year Scouter. I am currently a Unit Commissioner, Merit Badge Counselor and Scoutmaster. I have served as a Pack Trainer, Den Leader, Committee Chairman and Cubmaster and Assistant Scoutmaster.

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  1. Ranman328

    "Pencil Whipping" Requirements

    You do realize the UC is assigned to the unit by the District Commissioner and District right? Are you really saying you would have a volunteer "Removed" for trespassing for doing their "Volunteer" job? It is the UC's job to ensure the program is being delivered properly. It is the Unit Commissioner's job to conduct a Detailed Unit Assessment annually which covers administration of the program. I'm not sure where you got your impression of what a UC does but I believe you have been misinformed. A good UC would show up unannounced to see how the Unit actually operates. I believe the concern is that the girls have the same program delivered to them as the boys and they have the same experience as the boys. Isn't that why they wanted the program opened up to them in the first place? I do believe the requirement as you have stated in 4b says "SHOW" the proper care. That tells me they must "SHOW" me how to whip and fuse a rope. No sense playing trying to play word games now. This is how it has been taught in my 15 years.
  2. Ranman328

    "Pencil Whipping" Requirements

    I really wish we could stop picking posts apart. Yes you are correct that fire is not needed for Whipping a rope but the requirement says "Whipping and Fusing" a rope. Which they apparently did not do but got signed off on, which is what this Commissioner's concern was. I'm not here to argue the fine points. I am not here to be picked apart from a discussion I had with another Commissioner because I did not pick apart his visit with a Troop. I come here to get advice from long time Scouters who might have had the same type of situation in their Scouting and learn something possibly. Lately, all I get is others picking apart posts like "Not calling them Girl Scouts" and now "I didn't mention fire is not required for Whipping," Really? Can't we just go with a post, read it for what it is and give "Helpful" advice instead of picking people apart?
  3. Ranman328

    "Pencil Whipping" Requirements

    Update: Meeting was approximately three hours. Seven scouts, none above 13, two were Webelos that did not earn AOL. UC did not see any Patrol voting or Patrol decisions occur but he arrived about 15 minutes late to the meeting. He did have an interesting that three Scouts did not even have their handbooks at the meeting. No flags to be seen and did not conduct a closing ceremony. Have a Scoutmaster and one Assistant Scoutmaster. Conferences lasted about five minutes each. They were only instructed how to "Whip and fuse a rope" but did not actually do it due to having fire or flame inside the building. I advised him to monitor the Troop and give advice as he is a former Scoutmaster of 10 years himself. My advice would be slow down and enjoy the program and absorb as much as you can because it is over before you know it. I'm not sure what the rush is all about.
  4. Ranman328

    How should I help my boy?

    Looks like according to TAHAWK and BSA's Guide to Safe Scouting and our District and Council Executive, I was correct that Council should have been notified.
  5. So I was asked for some advice by a "new" unit Commissioner of a new (edited by a mod) Scouts BSA troop of girls Unit about Advancement. It appears that an entire Troop earned the Scout Rank Badge the first day they were in existence. I find it hard to believe that an entire Troop were able to complete ALL the Scout requirements in one day. Am I behind the times or being too naive about signing off on requirements. I am a Scoutmaster and can't for the life of me see how anyone can earn the Scout Rank in one day.
  6. Ranman328

    Decorum And Acting Scoutlike

    No water under the bridge. I am disappointed that same members are allowed to distort facts and give advice contrary to BSA Policy and no one corrects them. You @RememberSchiff of all people that I have followed for years always were a down the middle Scouter that I could always look to see how "You" did it for good direction. Now you are a moderator that seems to blow things off and go "Whatever" when it comes to issues that might be "sensitive". This site was a great place for Scouters to come to for advice and ideas, now it is a place for people to air their Political views and Personal issues. I received a beating for not being clear enough on a thread that was talking about a Scout being Suspended but because I didn't say "suspended" each time, my post wad taken out of context and I was treated like I kicked their dog or something. No time did the moderators get involved. Very sad.
  7. Ranman328

    How should I help my boy?

    My apologies to all that I was not crystal clear in the fact that we were all talking about a scout being "Suspended" and having his "Membership" revoked which is exactly what happened to this scout so let's not split hairs. Yes according our Council Executive, you MUST report ANY Discipinary Decision that concludes in a Scout being suspended. So YES, I was right in the fact that it should have been reported to the Camp, District and Council. As a Unit Commissioner, if I found out this happened without it being reported, there would be a problem. So @David CO, I hope you don't get caught in a situation like this. good Luck!
  8. Ranman328

    Cub Scout takes knee during pledge

    Like it or not, this is where we are at now. I personally am a Patriot, veteran, 30 year Federal Employee that loves his country. God, Country and Family was one reason I joined Scouts many years ago. I am sickened by all the disrespect we as a country show our country now. One of the most important things I make sure we do in our Troop is show respect for the Flag and Country. Every quarter we conduct a Flag Retirement Ceremony and properly retire them with a solemn ceremony and each flag is retired being carried by two scouts and saluted while "retired". I am not sure how to react to a Scout taking a knee during the Flag Ceremony. I am not sure they should be in Scouting. Maybe join football where that type of behavior is acceptable.
  9. Ranman328

    Decorum And Acting Scoutlike

    Are you responding to my post?
  10. Ranman328

    Decorum And Acting Scoutlike

    The Scouter Forum was a place I could come to for advice in Scouting, sadly, lately all it has become is a forum to bash others and to turn their words around to bash some more. I am sad that all the changes in Scouting have resulted in other Scouters feel the need to berate other Scouters and make fun of their posts. People would start a post talking about one subject and others would make sure they change the subject to enable them to push their views. God forbid you site a BSA Regulation or Policy. That will get turned around into something that doesn't look anything familiar to what your post was. I hope things change on this page as it was a good place to get help. I will not be coming back as I have been beat up enough and for some reason the moderators do not feel the need to step in. Good Luck to all you Lifelong Scouters out there that truly love and enjoy the program. I for one will continue to keep my Troop moving in the direction that Lord Baden Powell envisioned.
  11. Ranman328

    How should I help my boy?

    First off my name isn't "Dude" Please show some respect and no I am not joking!!!!! I never said what he said I did and the Quote proves that as he still has not showed where I said that. I said disciplinary regarding the revocation of a Membership. I said nothing about a knife violation or two scouts getting in a fight or not agreeing with their patrol leader. I am so sick of you people taking everyone's posts out of context and adding your own spin and then bashing them. I thought you people were Scouts and Scouters. You act like a mob culture. Again Show me where I said it!!!
  12. Ranman328

    How should I help my boy?

    Please show me where I said that!!!!
  13. Ranman328

    How should I help my boy?

    They should have already been contacted immediately after the incident!
  14. Ranman328

    How should I help my boy?

    Well according to my documentation from our District Scout Executive that @David CO says I should not follow because it is unreliable, yes, you should have notified your District and Council that you revoked a Youth BSA Membership. This apparently protects them as well as others from them re-registering. Makes sense to me but apparently not to @David CO.
  15. Ranman328

    How should I help my boy?

    So you are telling me I should not contact or use the “PAID PROFESSIONAL SCOUTER” because they are unreliable? That is a ridiculous statement. Who do you recommend Adult Leaders Contact?
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