fred8033

I had an interesting experience yesterday. I have a part-time weekend job. One of my co-worker is a 71 years old retired cop. Great guy. ... I somehow referenced scouting and he asked "oh, you were in scouting?" I briefly explained. I asked if he was in scouting. His comment was ... without using "only" ... Yes. He made it to Life Scout, but that was back when scouting was fun. ... I really found that interesting. Unprompted, his first comment was about that scouting was not fun anymore.

Interesting how this becomes a point of discussion. My point is someone who works with scouts, is not registered; and claims they are YPT trained is missing a fundamental key element of YPT; the registration and background check. It's an oxymoron and a sign the system has failed. Perhaps the registration never went thru. Perhaps a snafu. Fundamentally, someone didn't learn or worse "accept" a key point of YPT.

Registration quirks aside, my point is claiming someone is YPT trained but not registered is a contradiction.

I was thinking ... YPT, but NOT registered ... it's an oxymoron. An automatic statement that the YPT points did not sink in. There is no YPT meat without the person being registered. It's like attending law school, but never passing the bar.

You are dead on correct. Only a slight correction. Tigers are also bad for numbers. . Not just about burn-out. The first-look to impress parents/scouts is impressive as the program is so drastically watered down for Lions and Tigers. Many parents after Lions and Tigers are asking why scouts?

Fair enough. I've been out of the scout office too long. I swear they were, but maybe it's only the scout shop employees. I thought registrars were too. Goes to show my knowledge is fading. Perhaps time to ride into the scouting sunset.

Registrars are national employees. A small council might need one or two. A larger council can function smoother with 2 or three. I believe there are a few other similar national roles. Economies of scale is not just national cost. It's variety and quality. Small councils can't offer the number of camps or training or opportunities. Larger councils can benefit by targeting objectives that small councils can't staff correctly. Many, many reasons. It's not 100% about cost. By improving quality, then scout retention and national membership goes up. That helps the bottom line.

Merging councils is long overdue to reduce cost and benefit from economies of scale. If anything, bankruptcy delayed some mergers and bankruptcy could help national by driving more mergers.

Often circumvented by having a member of council shooting sports committee (who has right certifications) oversee the event. Thus, it becomes a council event that only one unit attends.

Those insurance companies have a right to not settle and go to trial ... if they choose. From what I understand, the trust would have the right to fund and represent all those covered by the trust. Effectively, trust money could be used to advance the victim's claims.

Really glad to see BSA and the councils able to move on.

That was a great SOAR feature. Worked well. Could send email to the SOAR troop URL and it re-routed as needed.

Congratulations ! Make it fun ! Make it fun for yourself too! Don't do everything yourself. Don't sweat if it doesn't become the ideal program. Do things to keep the scouts busy and getting new experiences. Use the committee to share the work. Expect nothing. Celebrate volunteers that help.

I am sorry to hear that. I've been there too. We become heavily invested in our kids and in volunteer programs that have such good purposes. Then, when the program doesn't happen smoothly or near our ideal, it really hurts. It saps energy. It saps happiness. It's okay to back off. It's okay to only focus on the more fun stuff. When it happened to me, I tried to always know the ideal that my brain said the program should happen, but I mainly focused on getting my scouts out and having adventures. By doing that, I had enjoyed scouting much more. AND, I think my scouts grew more too. I think scouting is hurt by the strong Norman Rockwell image and the detailed well reasoned program training materials. So many good volunteers become heavily committed to "this is how the program should work". ... My opinion has changed some recently. I agree with the program training materials, but IMHO ... just getting the scouts out and being active is much more important. Keep 'em safe, but keep 'em busy having adventures.

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So, depending on the last few years growth rate, budgeting $2.5m from the endowment "might" be a good plan. Might not too. All about sustainability and growth to keep it existing long term.

Different people are look for different things in a troop. I like the idea that the scoutmaster is comfortable staying at camp as the scouts go thru rotations. The idea is the scouts have their experience. They should NOT be followed around by adults. That's cub scouts. ... But, that's my opinion. Also, if they don't earn the advancement or win the camporee, that's fine. That was THEIR choice. Flip side is bad behavior in scouts is hard to change. Cussing. Swearing. Bad attitude. Bad behavior. ... Sometimes that only changes over time. Sometimes it only changes with a new set of scouts. AND, avoiding the older scouts teaching too many bad habits. Perhaps the example you had with first aid. Dragging the scout by the leg for first aid. IMHO, that reflects a scout that does not want to be there. That happens. Often, it's the committed volunteers who's kid does not want to be there. There is a magical mix in scouting. When it works, it's great. When it doesn't, it is frustrating. One point ... don't drag out decisions or try to force change. If you don't like how the SM is doing it, are you ready to find another SM? Or another unit? Our kids are only young for a short time. The time in scouts is even shorter.

SOAR was great. I would have loved to have SOAR and ScoutBook married. SOAR for unit coordination. ScoutBook for advancement.

I used quicken. Next guy used excel. Next guy used .... We let the volunteer decide as long as he kept the numbers.

Easy to get close when you pull $2.5m from an endowment. Another way to read ... The council plans to be short $2.5m this year. Perhaps the question is ... how much do you plan the endowment to grow this year? How much did it grow last year? Year before?

Recognize that the decision is not Troopmaster or Troopwebhost. The decision is what in addition to scoutbook. You will be using scoutbook in some form. It is BSA's official tool. We stopped using Troopmaster after decades of use and we did not miss it. Sometimes, troopmaster promotes tracking data that is really the scout's to track and own. After scoutbook started and SOAR began to back off, we just used a monitored Facebook group and a Google calendar in addition to ScoutBook.

It was a one-stop source for unit setup. <name>@<city><unit number>.mytroop.us. Really nice. It did not do advancement, but that was not the focus. It was communication and representation. Great tool.

I loved SOAR. Great web site. Great newsletter. Great calendar. I really miss it. Great roster. Pictures, etc.

We each have our complaints. I've seen some 15 year old camp staff do a more meaningful job then some of the long-time, experienced scouters.

Perhaps the real answer is like much in scouting; the whole merit badge program needs rethinking. So much of the MB program is subverted by troops doing the MBs within the troop and having any warm body register as a MBC. Perhaps the real answer is the scout should find resources that are experts, but then the MBC is a district advancement person who could confirm the scout did their work. It's not really a "go find a counselor". Instead, it's a scout shows up at roundtable and presents that he completed the MB content ... or presents at summer camp MB office .. or ... Then, we could stop talking about units gaming the system to avoid fees by registering adults as MBCs ... which I've done too.