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Momleader last won the day on October 22 2019

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  1. Lions and Tigers need to have parent at the meeting with them - it’s how the program was designed. I think the one of y’all is onto something. They may bounce packs if it doesn’t suit them. We leaders are forwarding the email from parent to us up to the Field service person at council (we are in between district commissioners now) and our request that the parent attends meetings with their cub to help them acclimate and succeed. maybe council has a special needs pack that’s a better fit - tired of being called not inclusive when we have tried and just don’t have the resources/bodies to help them, and I can’t put that responsibility into a young teen den chief.
  2. Perhaps someone can explain how this happens. Our state has 2 decent size councils and An small one with no camps. Of course the council our towns units are in have followed the letter of law with public health from state and shut everything down. No camps were opened - not even for day use. They even went as far as to ban unit camp outs early in summer. Now SPH (State Public Health) has eased up on camping but all state park campgrounds closed Until spring 2021, so our council isn’t allowing any camping at council camps. The other large council in state has their camps open and will rent to troops:packs with lots of safety rules (no buffet style meals, temp checks, single person/family tenting & sanitation). would our council’s insurance still be in effect if our troop went to the other council camp? Literally they have a property across the lake from our council. But that’s another discussion....
  3. I’m so frustrated as a leader. I have over 12 years as a cub leader. And have a lot of experience special ed students (my own children). We have a family in the pack who joined and stayed a year then transferred to another pack and came back last school year. The poor boy clearly doesn’t want to participate and He has educational/attention challenges which from the outside it look like immaturity and stubborness but it’s actually been diagnosed. Anyhow poor kid when comes He tells us he wants to leave as soon as a den Or pack meeting starts - when the parents leave he sulks or is very disruptive. This year the parent say our pack needs to supply a mentor scout like a den chief or adult leader for him because the school provides a para educator daily. We are all doing the best we can but just don’t have enough adults for this mandate. We have 1 leader covering 2 dens, committee chair handling advancement and a den, One leader with 1 den and just got a parent to volunteer for tigers. How much can the parents reasonably require of us? The mom always says she’ll take it to Council and make us give him services like school does and we’re ready to say “Fine that’s your right”. How can we get these parents to stay and help him when the other parents drop off for meetings. We aren’t trained special educators just folks trying hard for the kids so they all get the best experience possible.
  4. I think BSA should waive the 2021 registration fees for scouts who paid the fees in 2020. It would be the fair thing to do. DavidCO you are on to something there! Our fees for 2021 went up $21 they went up $19 in 2020. We are WELL over the $100 threshold now. Many families in our pack are now scrambling with extra childcare costs under the hybrid schooling schedules. I’m sure it’s the same nationwide. I get that BSA is a really a business - but they’re not showing much goodwill toward their customers (an increase And laying off council and national employees not to mention not offering live programming due to covid safety protocols). The message our council gave us was “parents see the value and pay for the extra online content as well as the fees. Packs should be fundraising for the unit level dues”. {My pack had NO parents participate in the online pay to play activities council ran stating they ‘paid their council program fee when they joined‘ - yup} As for fall meetings - our school system tried to shut us down on recruitment & meetings - so we can’t use school ball fields/No Clubs or extracurricular activities on school grounds K-12. Our CO is having no groups use the church hall. We surveyed the parents - the bulk feel with online requirements of school (3 days online) if the pact/den program is going to be online we will lose most. So we are Planning pack meetings at the local state park and doing outdoor as much as possible - they’ll need to get appropriate outerwear I guess. Dens will meet at the town beaches and playground parks weather permitting. This week council has cancelled all fall events, use of and camping at council camps for the fall too. They will decide after Labor Day if they will allow units to camp on their own. so yeah - national and councils need to NOT raise their fees or combined with the bankruptcy issues they’ll lose more members.
  5. https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss07/#b See #13... as the mom of a varsity level Fencer and Eagle Scout I can tell you the protective equipment keeps the fencer safe. Literally scoring is done electronically meaning if the tip of the epee, foil or saber touches the opponent it’s considered a hit. And it doesn’t have to be a hard touch. Once again - the lawyers at BubbleWrap, No BooBoos and Son have missed the point of something that kids can learn and have fun with. did you see that #14 includes no sock throwing game? So the snowball fight in July with clean rolled up socks is off the calendar. And no, we’re not playing Red Rover Red Rover in its place - you might sweat or strain your vocal chords. Go sit down and make slime
  6. Anyone’s units selling through the app? Are families happy with how it’s going? The pack is going to try again this year after a couple years off and am hoping that it’s as easy as they said it is during the presentation.
  7. The kids in my pack aren’t the ones asking. I was just throwing out some ideas for the original poster who asked for for suggestions. Maybe the MBC is someone meeting with the scout virtually or maybe the scout has other issues the parents are aware of and didn’t get into on here. These are unprecedented times and a little grace for others goes a long way.
  8. What exactly does the $25 new joiner fee do for the scouts or their families? What’s the purpose of it? We are meeting and I know this will come up at our leader meeting, we’ve asked our council but they said it’s a fee to join that national has set and all new will have to pay it. They don’t have a thing else to say - Has anyone else gotten information that’s a little more specific? Im sure the parents In our area can’t be the only ones in the country actively trying to find and pay for childcare because our schools are moving to the part time in school model and the other part of the time is distance learning. Is national aware that this and the increased fees could be a cause for some to not be able to join? And yes, we are selling the popcorn but the new kids won’t be up and selling until they’re registered.
  9. What about weeding town areas. Helps out the public works crews. Or planting flower baskets at library and schools and senior centers? There Is enough doom and gloom colorful plantings could make people’s day
  10. I’m a CC for our Town’s pack. We tried to do at home/zoom den and pack meetings. Parents didn’t log in. honestly some were Struggling with distance learning and stress. We did a couple NOVA offerings, 2 den leaders made up elective adventure kits and delivered to their den members. Midway we sent a survey and parents responded just staying on top of the schooling was what they could handle - so i mailed out a listing of where their cub was toward rank and asked that they finish up as they could and record in Scoutbook. After many many years of CC work I’ve learned what I may do at my house possibly won’t work for others. we dont force or flex our position of responsibility onto anyone unless its a safety Issue or YPT violation. This way we have the family’s always feel welcome.
  11. Sorry - didn’t splain that well. The parents aren’t crazy about the idea of 2nd -4th graders being in camp/dining hall with high school age campers for a week. A few staffers is different. Before we merged with a neighboring pack they had Webelos attend Webelos camp in a neighboring council and apparently the boys picked up some colorful vocabulary from the Older Boy Scouts at the waterfront. Parents all filled in the others - I wasn’t there just have to deal with the ‘remember what happenEd when’ - after the merge our pack went to the cub weeks at the camp the council sold and there was no issues again, haven’t been able to get parent to send the cubs to the other council camps since the sale. Then there is the ‘what if little cubby gets I’ll/inconsolably homesick/injured and we have to drive over an hour one way to get them?’ some parents can’t get over that in their heads.
  12. That is heartbreaking for the current cubs and incoming cubs. Our council - who did the same thing. Even though all their camps offer cub camping they had one camp that was really geared toward good cub camping and used to be full every summer Plus the OA used it a lot. There were full weeks of just cub scouts in camp. Then that council sold it and at an auction and according to them now cub leaders aren’t promoting the cub camping program enough and cub camping program on this side state has Really suffered losses in numbers of kids doing day camp and overnights. Parents don’t want to send their first year camper over an hour away where they get a section of the camp during regular older scout week and have to share swim area with older and much bigger kids and the dining hall. Incase something happens. And the nearest cub day camp is an hour by car and hour ten-twenty by school bus it used to be only 30 minutes
  13. See what CO and your council advise. This is a sticky situation. In the meantime be as supportive as possible for the kid - sounds like they could be pulled in many directions emotionally.
  14. It’s a shame but the risks and stakes are high. If my own kids were of the age to go I would have second thoughts unless there was a vaccine
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