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egads! I could imagine someone losing a degree of sanity simply from having to complete all of those test and scales and inventories - nevermind being made to think about how this is making you feel or that is making you react. For me, this whole bankruptcy process has felt like it's been dragging on and on and on - and I am not a claimant. I'm glad that you have a therapist and that your therapist wants to take the time to get a good assessment of how you are doing. (I'm not so glad to hear that you are in less-than-stellar shape.) So, @ThenNow - to you and all the other surv

They have been singing the same tune for this entire time: 1) BSA is running out of money 2) Give us a deal or else pension guarantee Corp comes in and takes everything 3) if the TCC really cares about all victims it will do anything it can to keep this out of state courts where some/most victims will walk away with nothing

This is precisely the correct observation. Years ago, I reviewed many of the governance documents pertaining to National, Districts, and units. They are a study in vagueness, ambiguity, and unworkable incompleteness-not a comprehensive governing plan. I was unimpressed. So, units, 100% in my experience, have no formal, legal. structure. They are "unincorporated associations." My state has laws pertaining to the formation, operation, governance of business corporations, not-for-profit corporations, professional corporations, banking corporations, general partnerships,

Scouts UK now has a Squirrels program starting at age 4. It's only a matter of time before the BSA acts on the realization that they are missing out on this additional year of collecting dues instead of waiting until they are 5-year-old Kindergarteners. i skipped the Lions year with my daughter. I still feel Tigers is even too young. 2nd grade is the ideal minimum age to start scouting. On the original subject of cost, my Pack does one unified neckerchief for all ranks. I don't require my dens have the handbooks, everything is available online. And we don't require the uniform pants.

An easy and cheap way is to use painters drop canvas (not splattered with paint of course). Cut a swath out that is about twice the depth of the longest knife and wide enough to accommodate the number of knives you need ( about the width + 4 inches for each of the knives you plan to roll laid side by side - I wouldn't put more than 6 or so in one roll). Lay the longest knife on the roll about about 3 inches from left edge, place it so that it is centered depth wise, then place the remaining knives about 2-3 inches apart so they are laid out left to right with the tips facing you. Once they a

I have been hearing of councils that don't want to serve as the chartering org as well. That's something for BSA to resolve though in its reorg plan I would think.

On Monday, September 20, the United Methodist Ad Hoc Committee on the BSA bankruptcy has stated that it will provide an update on the mediations that have been underway for months. The approximately dozen member committee is comprised of a team of legal advisors, representatives from the United Methodist Men’s group which oversees Scouting programs for the UMC and is headed by a bishop. Their goal has been to attempt to find a way forward that is fair to victims, protects the church and allows Scouting to continue as a ministry within the UMC. Members of the ad hoc committee have describ

That was/is the Scoutreach program and the unit leaders were Professionals/Paraprofessionals. Not sure how successful it was.

That is a high hurdle. That means every non vote is essentially a no vote. So, with 84,000 voters, they need 55,440 yes votes. I think if the judge forces this through it will be very risky. The TCC and many law firms are on the other side plus 12,000+ of that 55,000 are questionable (many may listen to Kosnoff). What a mess.

The coalition claims 55,000 or so at least that was the number in the RSA They do NOT have letters from everyone. Note the letter I sent around/found on FB. They are asking for such letters. 66% of voters, not 66% of total votes.

This is why I think the judge will deny the request and push Plan 5.0 to a vote. I completely understand the Hartford deal was not part of the RSA and that is likely a major issue. I just think the Judge may be thinking ... lets get this out for a vote. If approved, great, wrap it up. If rejected, then give up and go with a BSA only exit (no COs, no LCs).

"Purchasing companies" generally involves two legally recognized entities engaging in either an asset purchase, or a stock purchase, pursuant to written a written contract wherein the retention or assumption of existing liabilities is provided for. Consideration is paid or not, depending on the amount of liquidated liabilities, or the risk of known unliquidated liabilities and unknown liabilities. Even where a company assumes the liabilities of a selling company, that assumption does not relieve the selling company of its liability to the person or entity to whom it was-and remains-liabl

Another aspect of that was to gain legitimacy in the eyes of the community. BSA as a nascent organization had many competitors. The belief was that by partnering with local, established organizations to charter troops, they would have some credibility and legitimacy over the competitors. One reason why GSUSA did not use the CO model was that they were piggybacking on BSA's name. The only serious competitor to GSUSA was Campfire Girls. One of the reasons why West was adamant about GSUSA changing their name to Girl Guides was because he did not want confusion. My how times have ch

To be fair to some councils (not necessarily yours) there have been massive layoffs in some of these councils. Having diminished staff AND being told to take on more responsibilities like this (something that runs counter to everything BSA has done for decades based on the CO model) is not something councils relish or are even prepared for.

According to a reliable source, the Councils were warned to prepare for this eventuality and to make plans to serve as a CO, even if temporarily, to cover down on all units that may be displaced. Our Council did no such thing or they elected not to inform our District, so the potential now is very valid that we may lose units. Ridiculous!

We made expendient sheaths with plastic sheeting and tape. Some use cardboard and tape.

Perhaps our legal experts can weigh in but I would think there would typically be no assumption of previous liability in the transfer of a Scouting unit by one CO to another. Here is my thinking: The term "ownership of a unit" is used very loosely. Individual Scout units typically (always?) would not be legally incorporated entities in and of themselves. In most states, the change of ownership is a multi-step process that concludes with a filing with the Secretary of State's office. There is a very specific process that must be followed including filing fees. In most case

It's possible. The CO owns the unit. I never liked the idea of transferring units and CO shopping. This adds one more reason for me to dislike the practice. A new CO should always start out with a new unit. New number and everything. No inherited baggage. I've been hearing that some councils don't want to take on the charters of these old legacy units. Do you think they might know something about this inherited liability question? As usual, not a word about it from BSA.

We ordered these inexpensive knives from Amazon for $13. They cam with a sheath.

I have lots of CO / unit leader related questions ... Questions triggered by our own scouting unit. We cleaned up files no one wanted to store in their own garage. We were chatting about unit history. ... etc ... QUESTION #1 ... Establishing CO liability ... This seems like it will not be easy at all for probably up to half the units? Does that sound right? Our unit doesn't have any reported cases from any time ... I believe. ... but if it did ... Reason #1 Lack of historical CO knowledge ... A few of our leaders know our unit had multiple COs. Last 20

Some of you may have heard the sound of a thunk this morning. It was probably the noise made by moderators as a couple of us worked diligently to ... moderate. All of the moderators attempt to watch the postings as often as we can to keep this forum functioning with appropriate and useful content. I am surprised how often I see a moderator checking the forum at 2am. Maybe it says something about our insomnia. Unfortunately, we are needing to delete or hide some of the posts. Bottom line they are just not Scout-like. We know that there is a lot of passion around some of the topics. An

I am late to this and have not read all the replies but instead of giving out titles, delegate tasks -- hey, would you have time to do our Scout Shop shopping for all the awards? Let them do it once. Then ask for repeat help. Then slip them an advancement guide... little baby steps. Hey, would you come along with grocery shopping for our campout? Would you help plan our October outing? I'd start off with one-off, low commitment jobs. Then see how they do with those, then give PROFUSE THANKS and invite again. Do not forget the Profuse Thanks stage. People need to feel

FYI: Interesting article I read about retroactive extension of statutes of limitations in civil matters. While the U.S. Supreme Court has said since Calder v. Bull (1798) that such things do not violate the U.S. Constitution's prohibition on states passing ex post facto laws (holding, in part, that the provision applies only to CRIMINAL law) state constitutions have been read in such a way that such an attempt to extend civil statutes of limitations would be a violation of the defendants under the state constitution's due process and ex post facto provisions. 24 states have a per se rule again

If you mandate, you will lose volunteers and members. Do we need anymore bad publicity and membership loses. Also there is no panacea for COVID. Consulting with physcians AND doing your own, legitimate research ( medlineplus.gov for general info; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ for the primary sources) Research is ongoing on vaccines. And there are questions about the efficacy of them. Google Israel and COVID if you do not believe me. And before anyone says I am an antivaxer, not only has everyone in my immediate family been vaccinated, but also my wife is now staffing on the COV

Nope. Read what he wrote: the point is he claiming BSA "chose" her. As I noted: bankruptcy judges are not "chosen" by parties. They are randomly assigned UNLESS he wants to claim that the Clerk of the Delaware Bankruptcy Court and/or the judge herself conspired to get the case assigned to Silverstein and that they went around the random selection process. All part of the Kosnoff Konspiracy I guess.

Yes, but it is a giant leap from "incorporate in DE because of the bankruptcy court" (which OK, I might buy) to "incorporate in DE because of THIS PARTICULAR JUDGE". I know federal court clerks, I've worked with and for them when they were but state court clerks and before they went over to the dark side, I mean federal side. The assignment of judges uses a literally bingo spinner or other random name puller. So, for Kosnoff's konspiracy to work, BSA in 2019 Looked up the list of bankruptcy judges in 2019. In Delaware, there were 6 and Silverstein was NOT the chief judge. http

A private group that is not listed anywhere on scouting.org that you need to have permission to join. that is your definition of openness and engaging with the masses? Only the select few who have even knowledge of that Facebook group’s existence? right now today if I was a den leader or a cubmaster tell me exactly and I mean exactly how I would even know to look for that Facebook group on any official BSA website or any official BSA information source. if nothing else you’ve just proven my point: only the select elite few who are allowed access to private groups (FB) are allowe

Update 9/19/21: Another death, Industry Oversight, Enforcement, Power Line Safety Initiative The William Thomas Heath Power Line Safety Act (WTH Act) was passed, yet two years later on June 3, 2021 another teen in a sailboat is a electrocuted in a West Texas lake. The police report: *Clyde Lake Incident* Last night Clyde PD Officers responded to an incident at Clyde Lake involving a boat that had struck a power line going out over the water. Preliminary details indicated that one individual was in the water pulling a sail boat back to shore that had become disabled, while othe