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  1. The Girl Scouts do not use the CO model, so obviously the council based model is an option. In a good CO, there can be many benefits. Our CO has provided thousands of scholarship dollars over the year, allowed us to host and has supported numerous fundraising events, been a source of merit badge counselors, has provided support for the PRAY (God and Country) program and many other things. It has provided a bus for trips in the past. We have had our own Scout meeting room since 1926. It has sponsored us for over a century, so it is in the DNA of the church and the units. The program is
  2. The membership standards department is responsible for ensuring that youth in the program are safe and that the integrity of the BSA program is maintained. They are housed in Irving, Texas at the end of a long hallway behind closed door and a soundproofed wall I am told. The review team has a reputation of being very competent and professional from individuals who have worked with them. If there is a "credible allegation" made, membership can be revoked. The BSA has chosen to err on the side of caution, so persons may have membership terminated on the basis of an allegation that has litt
  3. There are multiple points of contention between the chartered organizations and the BSA at the present time. Perhaps the most contentious one is a court filing a few months ago as part of the restructuring plan. It included a section that discussed insurance and chartered organizations. It is important to understand that for decades chartered organizations were told that "the BSA has your back" and would provide adequate insurance. It came as a shock to the CO's to discover that the BSA was essentially stating there was no insurance coverage for past claims. Three reasons were stated and
  4. This letter was sent to every United Methodist conference throughout the nation a couple of days ago advising them to discontinue with the traditional charter agreement. While it is still up to the individual congregation to make this decision, this recommendation will carry a lot of weight. And will likely move other denominations to take similar action. The mediations with the denomination have clearly been contentious at times. If the BSA loses the support of the chartering organizations, it is difficult to see how it can successfully move past the impacts of the bankruptcy and the pa
  5. Welcome to the forums SiouxRanger. Thank you for your post. You have valid points. It should be noted that established bankruptcy law dictates the priority of some of the claims such as pension funds. Unfortunately, the fallout from this situation may continue for some time.
  6. This is a real dilemma for the United Methodist Church which has been an incredibly strong supporter of Scouting for a century. There is a desire to maintain a positive relationship with the Scouting program that has served many local communities for decades. A national legal team has been working on these issues for months now in mediation with the BSA. The United Methodist Church operates through regional conferences which cover a specific geographic area such as a state or a portion of a large state. The conference legal team headed by a "chancellor' will issue an opinion or recom
  7. None of our three camps apparently will have to be sold. We are in a non extended SOL area. A large endowment and other reserves will be tapped, it appears as of this moment. But the winds may switch suddenly, who knows? It feels that we are momentarily in the eye of this perfect storm. Now we deal with the reality of a 70% loss of membership and perhaps the loss of many of our chartering organizations on the near horizon.
  8. My observations from the TCC meeting tonight were (1) Focusing on body language, vocal tone and facial expressions - weariness among the TCC team was clear. This has been emotionally and physically draining. (2) Resignation - "no one is happy right now" (3) This may be the best deal we can get to avoid years of litigation. (4) More news in the next 24 hours
  9. Pretty impressive powers of prediction - almost to the day. Any thoughts on this week's Powerball?
  10. We have a situation underway the likes of which Scouting has never faced. A perfect storm of events which includes the impact of a bankruptcy around a staggering amount of abuse claims, a pandemic that has devastated membership in many areas and councils potentially on the verge of a financial crisis. In an ideal situation, camp property retention would be part of a strategic process looking at a number of factors. And if we were really smart, we would begin to think beyond council boundaries in our planning. In our state we have situations where two adjacent councils have primary summer cam
  11. One of my concerns is that many councils may see this as a wonderful opportunity to rid themselves of the expense of inherited and unwanted camps under the guise of the bankruptcy. Selling a beloved Scout camp is a sure way to stir up a firestorm among Scouters and donors. Now councils can say "the courts made us do it" and shift the blame. I am skeptical that every last dollar will go into the settlement trust.
  12. I suspect that we can anticipate dozens of letters similar to this one being sent off across the nation during the next months. The heart-wrenching history of abuse which led to the bankruptcy is extremely disturbing. I think for many volunteers, the apparent extent of the abuse is shocking and a troubling reason itself to lose your beloved camp. However, in addition to the impact of the bankruptcy, the pandemic has had a devastating effect on the membership and fund-raising of numerous councils. It is difficult to justify the expense of maintaining multiple camps when your has plum
  13. I have been very surprised at the number of active, long-term Scouters in our community who have little idea of what is playing out. I think that the executive board has an understanding of the potential risk but have been warned not to share information. At the district and unit level, most are (blissfully?) ignorant. This has entered the radar of some of the larger CO's but for the most part they also appear oblivious or at the very least uncertain if and how this could affect them for something that they sponsored perhaps 20, 30 or 40 years ago.
  14. It our area, at least, it is my understanding that the many of the chartered organizations which sponsored a unit named in a bankruptcy claim have not yet been notified that there is a potential claim looming for their organization. Add to that shock, the fact the BSA has stated in court filings that there may not be any insurance coverage available or that the CO will be responsible for very high deductibles. There is a tsunami approaching for the chartered organizations that will affect even those that have no current claim or are located in a state without extended statue of limitations.
  15. A friend of mine sits on various national mediation tables. There are apparently multiple "tables" that change composition and deal with specific issues. It is a position that he could not have imagined himself being in two years ago. We never discuss specifics because of confidentiality. Just impressions sometimes. Words like "contentious" and "mess" come up. How could this not be a mess? Tens of thousands of traumatic abuse claims. Billions of dollars at stake. Camps, councils and programs that Scouts and Scouters have poured their passion, time and energy into are
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