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Lessons and questions of Scout leadership and operating troop program

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  1. Two Steps Forward, Two Steps Back. 1 2 3 4 7

    By Eagle94-A1,
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  2. Modern Banking and Teaching Kids to Fish

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  3. Just one thing... 1 2

    By Eagledad,
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  4. Does the SPL Always Lead on a Campout? 1 2

    By doakley,
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  5. Patrol vs. Troop Cooking 1 2

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  6. Another Reason Why Adults Should Not Do What The Scouts Can Do Themselves 1 2

    By Eagle94-A1,
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  7. The PLC Has Decided: Mixed Aged Patrols in May 1 2 3 4 16

    By Eagle94-A1,
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  8. "Your ... troop is made up of patrols . . . ." 1 2

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  9. New Scouts, Patrols, A thought experiment. 1 2 3

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  10. Introduction to the Patrol Method in less than a day 1 2 3 4 5

    By MattR,
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  11. Change in The Troop, It's Coming 1 2 3 4 9

    By Eagle94-A1,
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  12. Patrol Method with a very young troop 1 2

    By Cambridgeskip,
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  13. Troop Meetings: How to Motivate the Troop 1 2 3 4

    By Krampus,   
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  14. "Train 'em. Trust 'em. LET THEM LEAD!"

    By Eagle94-A1,
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  15. A Coed thought Experiment

    By qwazse,   
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  • LATEST POSTS

    • jcousino
      And why is this something that is unique all of a sudden? "Scout Slogan" in action.

      By jcousino · Posted

      Way to much . I will make it much simpler start with summer camp where they have 100% control.  
    • Tron
      And why is this something that is unique all of a sudden? "Scout Slogan" in action.

      By Tron · Posted

      You say sadly; however, a multi patrol troop can easily put on a resident/long term camp on its own for a fifth of the cost and get all.of the non MB experience in without the annoyance of being on a campnwide schedule. If OA took the long term camp requirement out the resident camps.in my state would easily lose 25 to 50% of their campers.
    • Eagle94-A1
      And why is this something that is unique all of a sudden? "Scout Slogan" in action.

      By Eagle94-A1 · Posted

      As others have said, national won't change things because it hurts their bottom line. Heck they encourage. I remember one council in FL was given all kinds of praise in a NAM video on the number of MBs they awarded during COVID. Sadly this is the attitude of too many parents. Summer camp is supposed to be more than MBs. The attitude is why a camp will give Basketry away, when Scouts did 1/2 the requirements. That is why summer camps give away Canoeing to folks who spend 15 minutes on the water every day, and when the Scouts go on a canoe trek with the troop, cannot do basic maneuvers. And I can go on.
    • skeptic
      And why is this something that is unique all of a sudden? "Scout Slogan" in action.

      By skeptic · Posted

      It is interesting that the original question I posed had to do with why the media picked up story that basically represents someone outside of scouting doing a good deed, and treated it as special. Meanwhile we have the Slogan that we in theory expect our youth to consider doing, but we seldom discuss the subject.  A while back I stepped in early in the meeting and posed the query to the group, asking them to describe how they may have met that concept of the Slogan.  The discussion morphed into a real interactive thing.  We talked about a good deed, and what it meant.  We talked about how large an effect it might have and whether simply holding a door, for example was a good deed, and that counted.  They should not consider themselves a failure in regard to the Slogan if it was not extraordinary.  It eventually morphed into also talking about how the Motto interacted with the Slogan, and touched on the Law.   The larger question that now comes to me is how often do we bypass these kinds of opportunities?  Do we so focus on getting the "plan" for the meeting accomplished that we lose opportunities?  Maybe we need to not be so fixated on some things, but instead listen for these opportunities and explore with our youth.  I just read a FB piece about how we, as adults and too often educators, neuter the curiosity of our youth for various reasons.  It discussed at what age the kids stop asking why, and how it is related to our NOT taking the time to find out if we do not, ourselves, know.  How, if we change direction and explore it with them, that it may have a much larger impact on them, but we also open ourselves again to curiosity.  The article was really leading up to an encyclopedic book on what are the most common "why or what" questions of young kids.  But, while it was come on for the book, it also did open my eyes a bit more, even at my age.   We may need to step back a bit and reevaluate our approaches, not just in Scouting, but in general.  I am 82, and I just realized that I have actually learned something about the larger world, and also have gotten a different perspective on why we may do what we do.  
    • Tron
      And why is this something that is unique all of a sudden? "Scout Slogan" in action.

      By Tron · Posted

      I totally get this, I'm even a parent who expects MB at summer camp, though the pressure is on my kids to actually perform. God help them if they come back from camp with a partial; partials trigger the old "What were you doing instead of completing this?!" and subsequent chastising about how much they are applying themselves and how much they would apply themselves if it was their own money.    

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