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    • I've heard this comment before from others.  I'd be curious for people to expand on this.  What are examples were you've seen professionals fired who were doing a good job?  No names of course.
    • I would suggest just re-writing it if you can remember any of it. That's what I've been doing for various ceremonies and scripts. I just did the Webelos Tribe story at a den meeting, and I took what i found online and modified the heck out of it. A lot of this stuff was never official BSA programming, and was just written and/or edited by various scouters over the years. I use those documents as a starting point, but I re-write stuff as needed. Not just for cultural significance but also just to get the right kind of story, ceremony, or script for what I'm trying to do. I even edit campfire skits, songs, and stories. Not too much that it changes the story, just to personalize it or to get it into a flow or tone that I'm more comfortable with so it sounds more natural. Or to add local flare. When I do the Horrible Pirate story and the narrator says they were down by the docks, I say "down by the [Your Town] Docks" to give it a local reference (and as a bit of added comedy since because we have no bodies of water in or near our town). My point is, scripts in scouting don't need to be adhered to exactly. These aren't exactly sacred documents, they have already been edited and revised numerous times over the years. Take what you like, remove what you don't, add whatever makes it work better for you. Same for the face painting. Don't worry about how close it is to whatever your remember being done previously. Ultimately what you want with the face painting is a color that matches rank. Put a couple of bars of the rank color on each kid's face and you're good to go.
    • Eagle.  I never thought in a million years I would have ever heard that said from a BSA Pro, current or former.  I commend you for having the courage to lay it out here for all of us.  I also commend the exceptional environment Scouter.com gives us in order to share, support and learn from each other's experiences in BSA's many micro climates and pockets of alternate realities. David CO, I do agree with you about executives only really caring about their livelihoods as an employee of Scouts BSA.  Luckily, I been able to work with a handful of exceptional (now laid off) Scout Professionals who never got valued for what they kept bringing into the Districts and Council.  With all that, I'll always have faith in Scouting; it's something far more.  As Nick Fury said, ""Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on.""
    • Thank you @mrjohns2. It sounds like Mr. Lambert had a distinguished career.  I thank him for devoting his career to Scouting and certainly wish them well. Of all the national job descriptions, his sounds like one of the most understandable.  I really do wish that the BSA would make their national organization more transparent to us all at the council level.
    • They seem to be pretty open right now.  My buddy was the chapter chief or clan chief - can't recall which now.  He's also still in contact with a guy who was a Scouter over there - about our age, but the other side of 18 back then.  Worst case, I can probably get one of them to write a memo.  I can definitely recall an interesting Ordeal ceremony I assisted in for a candidate that got sick during the day.  
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