DuctTape Posted Monday at 03:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:17 PM Curious as to others scouting pet peeves (not failures of adhering to program, or safety, or other regs). I'll go first: the use of the terms "Class A" or "Class B" when referencing the field or activity uniform. I recently saw it used in an email from Council. Grrr. I know it is not a major issue, just irks me. Anyone else? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberSchiff Posted Monday at 04:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:53 PM (edited) Reciting the Scout Law too fast. IMHO, there should a slight pause after each Law to reflect and change facial expression for the next Law. Serious looks for Trustworthy and Loyal, Thrifty, Clean; smiles for Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Cheerful; stern for Obedient, Brave, solemn for Reverent. We should not be spitting back the Laws like alphabet letters at a traffic stop. I like this pace. Say the Laws as Scoutmaster Oborny signs them. My $0.02, Edited Monday at 10:24 PM by RememberSchiff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic Posted Monday at 07:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:05 PM I can relate to that to some extent. One way to combat the repetitiveness is after the recitation, ask for an example or two from the group of a particular point. Or discuss briefly the intent of the Law, including that it is not 12 laws, but one Law with 12 points. I also like to contrast it at times with the Ten Commandments in regard to the phrasing. The commandments say "Thous Shalt Not", while the Law says it is a given taht a Scout is . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted Monday at 07:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:47 PM From the moment National rolled out the ODL field uniform … why not the same tan shirt for Explorers (but with green epaulettes) and Sea Scouts (but with white epaulettes)? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuctTape Posted Monday at 07:50 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 07:50 PM 2 minutes ago, qwazse said: From the moment National rolled out the ODL field uniform … why not the same tan shirt for Explorers (but with green epaulettes) and Sea Scouts (but with white epaulettes)? That would certainly make the epaulets more function than form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeS72 Posted Monday at 08:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:20 PM Scouts (or anyone else for that matter) who asks, "please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance", and then begins with "I pledge of allegiance" instead of "I pledge allegiance". Those are usually the same Scouts (or others) who insert a comma into the line "one nation under God". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armymutt Posted Monday at 10:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:13 PM 1 hour ago, MikeS72 said: Scouts (or anyone else for that matter) who asks, "please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance", and then begins with "I pledge of allegiance" instead of "I pledge allegiance". Those are usually the same Scouts (or others) who insert a comma into the line "one nation under God". I've never heard anyone say "I pledge of allegiance", however there is traditionally a natural rhythm to the pledge that provides a pause between "nation" and "under". Just as there is between "allegiance" and "to", "flag" and "of", "America" and "and", and "Republic" and "for". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjohns2 Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM 5 hours ago, qwazse said: why not the same tan shirt for Explorers (but with green epaulettes) I thought that was acceptable at the time? Either the Green Explorer uniform or the tan shirt with green loops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted yesterday at 09:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:48 AM I could write a book of pet peeves... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago The people who never read the emails are #1. #2 is the people that transfer in from "bad units" or "failed units" and then won't shut up about how we should try what their old unit did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson76 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago Professional scouters that have clearly set goals that focus on raising money (for what nobody knows) rather than focusing on actually growing the program A National Organization that continues to believe the infrastructure needs to be reflective of the 70's (almost 5 million) rather than today (less than 1 million). Get rid of councils and overhead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago There is a certain irony that National grew from the need to respond to the trenches where Scouting struggled to survive, but was locally vibrant for the times. And now, when we are back to struggles in similar chasms, they seem to be unaware of reality too often. Our local council seems too often to simply not get that most volunteers simply want to be kept in the loop. Our successes are almost all unit based, and seldom noted by Council, unless they find issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson76 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 45 minutes ago, skeptic said: There is a certain irony that National grew from the need to respond to the trenches where Scouting struggled to survive, but was locally vibrant for the times. And now, when we are back to struggles in similar chasms, they seem to be unaware of reality too often. Our local council seems too often to simply not get that most volunteers simply want to be kept in the loop. Our successes are almost all unit based, and seldom noted by Council, unless they find issue. Our successes are almost all unit based, and seldom noted by Council, unless they find issue a way to monetize that success. Fixed it for you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashTagScouts Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, Jameson76 said: Professional scouters that have clearly set goals that focus on raising money (for what nobody knows) rather than focusing on actually growing the program A National Organization that continues to believe the infrastructure needs to be reflective of the 70's (almost 5 million) rather than today (less than 1 million). Get rid of councils and overhead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, Jameson76 said: Our successes are almost all unit based, and seldom noted by Council, unless they find issue a way to monetize that success. Fixed it for you Well; youo certainly hit the nail squarely. As one of our leaders growled last week when I mentioned the apparent sale of our only remaining camp; "If it means money, they do not care how it affects the units." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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