mrjohns2 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 1:40 AM, mashmaster said: If you measure by numbers nationally then maybe it could be not successful. Expand 2% of all youth registered. Pretty much a failure as a movement goes. This is NOT something that should be used as a model of co-ed success. I hope national only spends 2% of its resources on it (or less since many youth & adults are dual enrolled and thus not paying extra for it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashmaster Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 2:05 AM, mrjohns2 said: 2% of all youth registered. Pretty much a failure as a movement goes. This is NOT something that should be used as a model of co-ed success. I hope national only spends 2% of its resources on it (or less since many youth & adults are dual enrolled and thus not paying extra for it). Expand Given from what I have seen, they don't even spend 1% of resources on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David CO Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 1:37 AM, elitts said: But can you pull a sword out from down-under at the drop of a hat? Expand That's not my sword. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 2:48 AM, David CO said: That's not my sword. Expand Silly...can't even have a mock sword (light saber) fight with pool noodles?? I see this in the pool at Summer Camp every year... G2A Prohibited Activities: 14. Activities where participants strike at each other, including martial arts, boxing, combat games, gladiator games, and reenactment activities such as live action role-playing games (LARP) and Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) activities (exception: tai chi) https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss07/#b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armymutt Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 12:44 PM, InquisitiveScouter said: Silly...can't even have a mock sword (light saber) fight with pool noodles?? I see this in the pool at Summer Camp every year... G2A Prohibited Activities: 14. Activities where participants strike at each other, including martial arts, boxing, combat games, gladiator games, and reenactment activities such as live action role-playing games (LARP) and Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) activities (exception: tai chi) https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss07/#b Expand I'm guessing the non-supervised stick fights we had as kids are a non-go. Used to be fun. You find a stick and smack it against someone else. If yours breaks, you retire and find another. on second thought, technically, you aren't striking other participants. You are striking their stick. Maybe we were following the guide even in the 80s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwazse Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 12:44 PM, InquisitiveScouter said: 14. Activities where participants strike at each other, including martial arts, boxing, combat games, gladiator games, and reenactment activities such as live action role-playing games (LARP) and Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) activities (exception: tai chi) Expand And thus expired the LARPing crew that one of my scouts thoroughly enjoyed ... next time you ask where did all of the venturers go ... point to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitiveScouter Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 6:50 PM, qwazse said: And thus expired the LARPing crew that one of my scouts thoroughly enjoyed ... next time you ask where did all of the venturers go ... point to that. Expand I thought judo was allowed, too...when did they take that out?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberSchiff Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 7:05 PM, InquisitiveScouter said: I thought judo was allowed, too...when did they take that out?? Expand 2019. All martial arts Page 41-42 The Boy Scouts of America prohibits the following activities (with exceptions in italics): .... 13. Activities where participants strike at each other, including martial arts, boxing, combat games, gladiator games, and reenactment activities such as live action role-playing games (LARP) and Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) activities (exception: tai chi) https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34416.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAHAWK Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 "You can’t earn this badge any longer, but from 1911 to 1912, Scouts could earn the Master-at-Arms Badge by “attaining proficiency in two of the following subjects:” Single-Stick Quarter-Staff Fencing Boxing Ju-Jitsu Gymnastics Wrestling According to MeritBadge.org, The Master-at-Arms badge was one of the original 14 “Badges of Merit” issued by the Boy Scouts of America in 1910 in the temporary “Original edition” of the BSA Handbook. It was not included in the 1911 edition of the Boy Scout handbook." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Latin Scot Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) On 3/22/2021 at 8:45 PM, TAHAWK said: "You can’t earn this badge any longer, but from 1911 to 1912, Scouts could earn the Master-at-Arms Badge by “attaining proficiency in two of the following subjects:” Single-Stick - CHECK ✔️ Quarter-Staff - CHECK ✔️ Fencing - CHECK ✔️ Boxing Ju-Jitsu Gymnastics Wrestling According to MeritBadge.org, The Master-at-Arms badge was one of the original 14 “Badges of Merit” issued by the Boy Scouts of America in 1910 in the temporary “Original edition” of the BSA Handbook. It was not included in the 1911 edition of the Boy Scout handbook." Expand I WANT THIS BADGE! 🤺 ⚔️ Edited March 22, 2021 by The Latin Scot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_in_CA Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 8:45 PM, TAHAWK said: "You can’t earn this badge any longer, but from 1911 to 1912, Scouts could earn the Master-at-Arms Badge by “attaining proficiency in two of the following subjects:” Single-Stick Quarter-Staff Fencing Boxing Ju-Jitsu Gymnastics Wrestling According to MeritBadge.org, The Master-at-Arms badge was one of the original 14 “Badges of Merit” issued by the Boy Scouts of America in 1910 in the temporary “Original edition” of the BSA Handbook. It was not included in the 1911 edition of the Boy Scout handbook." Expand One of the original stated uses of the scout staff, was self defense. I'm curious about the inclusion of Gymnastics in the list. Was there an understood martial aspect to gymnastics in 1910? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueandSilverBear Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 12:27 AM, Rick_in_CA said: One of the original stated uses of the scout staff, was self defense. I'm curious about the inclusion of Gymnastics in the list. Was there an understood martial aspect to gymnastics in 1910? Expand West Point still has gymnastics as a core PE requirement for all cadets (although they call it "military movement") and they have the infamous Indoor Obstacle Course Test that is essentially a series of gymnastics events. I have to assume the inclusion in the Master-at-Arms badge came from that same school of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkMan Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 1:20 AM, BlueandSilverBear said: West Point still has gymnastics as a core PE requirement for all cadets (although they call it "military movement") and they have the infamous Indoor Obstacle Course Test that is essentially a series of gymnastics events. I have to assume the inclusion in the Master-at-Arms badge came from that same school of thought. Expand I just think you have to show the Scouts the move the Matrix and they'll be ready for all the martial arts the BSA could throw at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David CO Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 1:20 AM, BlueandSilverBear said: I have to assume the inclusion in the Master-at-Arms badge came from that same school of thought. Expand At one time, scouting was so popular they had to beat boys away with a stick. Obviously, that badge is no longer needed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walk in the woods Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) On 3/22/2021 at 8:36 PM, RememberSchiff said: 2019. All martial arts Page 41-42 The Boy Scouts of America prohibits the following activities (with exceptions in italics): .... 13. Activities where participants strike at each other, including martial arts, boxing, combat games, gladiator games, and reenactment activities such as live action role-playing games (LARP) and Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) activities (exception: tai chi) https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/34416.pdf Expand The prohibited activity in that paragraph is "strike at each other" and nothing more. I'd take that to mean martial arts, boxing, etc. are all fine as long as the scouts are striking at training dummies, heavy bags, pig carcasses, etc. It works for this Girl Scout troop in Iowa. Edited March 23, 2021 by walk in the woods cleaned up link language 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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