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David CO

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  1. You might check first to see if your Chartered Organization has a cell phone use policy.
  2. I am very glad to hear that your kids are OK. Not everyone was so lucky. Some were scarred for life.
  3. If we have learned anything from the scandals and bankruptcy, it is that BSA cannot be depended upon to safeguard our kids. The Chartered Organizations need to step up and take responsibility. We can't rely on any other outside group to do it. Safeguarding our kids is our responsibility.
  4. I totally disagree. The problem is the rules. Stupid rules.
  5. I don't like this 24/7 thing either, but this is the world we live in. Recent events make it pretty clear that institutions are not immune from responsibility for actions that take place outside of their watch. It is not so far-fetched to imagine that a CO might face problems as a result of OA elections. Instead of complaining about unit non-participation in OA elections, OA would do better by adjusting its rules to allow OA elections to take place without any unit or CO participation. OA created this problem and OA can fix it. There is no need for OA members and unit scouters
  6. Once again, you are making my point. OA is not a unit activity.
  7. It is none of my business how OA chooses to elect its members so long as they leave my unit out of it.
  8. Are we talking about $$$ here? I'm sure it will be real nice to start out-earning the neighborhood kid who mows lawns in the summer.
  9. That is exactly my point. OA is not a unit activity. OA should not be involving the unit in their elections.
  10. It is always a challenge to provide appropriate supervision for scouting activities.
  11. The OA leaders in my area fiercely opposed any interference from the unit leadership and CO's. Once the boys were elected into OA, their activities were totally outside of our control. Our only recourse was to not hold OA elections.
  12. I think that is a very good idea. CO's should be supervising and safeguarding their unit's scouts at all scouting activities.
  13. I think you are all missing the point. The Chartered Organization has an obligation to protect its children. The CO can protect its children while they are participating in unit activities, but the CO has no control over OA. The CO cannot protect its children at OA activities. Why would a CO want to have a "pipeline" from its unit to some other program whose leadership and activities are totally outside the CO's control? It doesn't make any sense. I understand why OA would want to have this "pipeline", but I can't see any reason why a CO would want it. Even though the KC's
  14. Yes. I have run into this many times in both scouting and sports. A boy feels he needs to quit an activity that he very much enjoys in order to show solidarity and support for his parent, who is no longer welcome. It happens a lot.
  15. There is a very simple solution. He stays. You go.
  16. I am not aware of any new rules that would prohibit a non-Catholic from serving on a unit committee.
  17. I have zero confidence in BSA. Too many good people have been removed on baseless and unfounded rumors. Too many bad people have been left in because of influence and money.
  18. When I was the IH, the Chartered Organization was the Athletic Department. It has since been transferred over to the parish office. The policies and practices were exactly the same for the scout unit as they were for the sports teams. We did that intentionally. Youth spectators weren't allowed to "join in the reindeer games" at sports events. Only registered team members.
  19. I don't think so. Not entirely. There is a clear tie-in to this thread. The 24/7 thing is relevant to this discussion in that the Cubmaster thinks the den leader should have informed him about his visit to the troop. That's a 24/7 issue if I ever saw one. I don't see how we could leave it out. But I'm willing to drop it if that's the moderator decision.
  20. This is the dilemma most of us are facing. We were raised to believe that we should obey the rules and do the right thing at all times regardless of whether or not someone is watching. A scout is trustworthy. No crack-down should be necessary. My unit would not require one of our scout leaders to "log-in" every time his son has a friend over to the house to play. That would be ridiculous. The topic of this thread would not apply to that situation.
  21. Depends on the proximity. I often hire kids to mow the lawn, rake the leaves, pull the dandelions, as well as other outside yard-care activities. I think its good for boy scouts to earn some money and pay their own way.
  22. I don't agree with this 24/7 thing that national is pushing. I totally agree that a den leader is not always acting as a den leader. Sometimes a den leader is just being a dad. A den leader can be off duty, so to speak. I get that. However, a den leader is always our unit leader at scouting activities. This is particularly true if he is wearing the uniform with our unit number on the sleeve. He is representing our unit. We expect him to comport himself like a scout leader, and we expect him to "log-in" his activities.
  23. I hear that all the time. Visitors are allowed to observe our unit activities, but they are not allowed to join in. We would note any visitors in our troop log. We would not report it to the visitors' unit. If their unit requires notification of their visits, we would expect them to do it themselves. A scout is trustworthy.
  24. I understand. As a long time baseball fan, I have a tendency to over-identify with my favorite team. When they win, I win. When they lose, I lose. Of course, I have no actual ownership stake in professional baseball. I'm not a billionaire. Being a fan is about emotions, not reality. It's not really my team. The same is true of BSA. We don't actually own BSA. We are not BSA. We never have been. We never will be. It's time for all of us to stop over-identifying with BSA. It can be fun to be a fan, but it stops being fun when we over-identify with our teams. When we s
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