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    I HATE the new YPT rules

    If you did this in my neighborhood, the next meeting would have 0 parents and 0 participants. I spent a year and a half shielding my pack from a DE who was just like this. The Pack's survival was in question for the better part of 8 months.
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    New girls in Scouting

    If you look closely, you'll see the Journal date is 2015 but the published date is 2013. Not uncommon for a journal article to publish online long before it makes a print edition. the title given in the Telegraph article is exactly the same, with the same authors, of the second link I provided. I suppose the authors could be biased, along with the folks who did the peer review, and the editors/reviewers at the journal (published by OUP). It happens to the best journals. This particular article has been cited over 20 times according to NIH (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4428296/citedby/). So, the argument made was there is no difference in the development of boys and girls. A scholarly article, published in a peer reviewed journal, and cited over 20 times, suggests that's not the case. It's now the person who made the original claim to do the research to refute my response, you know, with actual data and studies and such.
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    New girls in Scouting

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10529134/Girls-really-do-mature-quicker-than-boys-scientists-find.html, with the published study, https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article/25/6/1477/299218?searchresult=1
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    I HATE the new YPT rules

    Nah, just about having a 6 year old at a scout encampment.
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    Starting a new troop: Budget items

    Talk to your CO about making a startup donation. Also talk with them about service opportunities your young scouts could take on right away.
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    Adult Supervision for Online Communications

    It's not just a BSA problem, it's a societal problem. Our over arching desire to protect children is actually damaging them, mentally and physically. Lukianoff and Haidt talk about it in their article, and now book, "The Coddling of the American Mind." It's the basis of Leonore Skenazy's Free Range Kids movement. You're right, the BSA should absolutely be fighting against the trend. But, it's risky business to say "Let your kid join our movement! They're going to be challenged emotionally and physically. They'll hear things they disagree with. They'll get into arguments. They'll take risks and they might get hurt. One weekend a month you'll say goodbye on Friday night and not hear from your child again until Sunday morning!" It's a lot easier to say Family Scouting and give in to the zeitgeist.
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    Adult Supervision for Online Communications

    I'm guessing this will be updated:
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    Adult Supervision for Online Communications

    Question for the OP. Are the boys getting their work done? Is the troop running well? Have you had any actual reports of wrong doing? For 100 years our goal has been to get boys to work together to run their troops. Train them, trust them, let them lead is the catch phrase. Now we're being told adults have to intervene. There's no faster way to crush the spirit of a group of boys who have bought into the actual vision! The policy quoted above is technocentric and technophobic. Would we demand to see hand written letters between the scouts? What if they decided to use an encryption technique? Would policy dictate a key escrow service? If they all sit together at lunch should a scout leader demand to be invited or will we recruit teachers to spy for us? These are the policies that will change the BSA from a character development program into a adult driven camping club. BSA National needs to come down out of their ivory tower, fire all the professors and experts they've brought into their little echo chamber, and get back into the field actually working with boys.
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    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    Then she'd have the same disappointment as any boy living in small town America when it comes to starting a scout troop. It's not a new problem.
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    New Scout Troop

    So lots of questions. How many girls? Will you have your own equipment or share with the boys unit? Will you be meeting at the same time/place or separately? Take this for what it's worth, I restarted a troop with 6 boys. It was winter so I spent the first month or two working with the boys on simple scout skills, setting up tents, setting up tents in the dark, setting up the kitchen (we mostly plop camped at that point), hooking up the stove, cooking, fire starting, woods tools, shopping lists, menu planning, etc. Plus a lot of team building games and working on patrol identify. It was adult directed at the beginning but started to work towards the boys working on their own. It was imperfect but what we had access to use. Certainly it helped us get ready for that first camping trip and for our first summer camp. Assuming you have good relationships with the boys unit, I would suggest not using the boys troop ASMs to teach scout skills, rather get the boys unit Instructors and/or older scouts to do so. That will help set the youth leadership direction. Maybe ask if your PL(s) can observe the boy unit's PLC meetings. Unless you have 15 - 20 girls joining your new unit, skip the SPLs and ASPLs. Maybe even if you have that many skip those positions. A patrol needs a Patrol Leader, but not an SPL. I'd argue two or three patrols probably don't need an SPL. As they get familiar with the equipment and structuring outings some of that will shake out. Introduce other leadership positions as the unit needs them. Dig out the Troop Program Resources for your first few months. It will build a framework around meetings for your new PL(s).
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    Other than “The Cremation of Sam McGee” ...

    From the stack of wax at the back of the rack! https://www.scoutsongs.com/lyrics/imetabear.html
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    Boys-only weeks at camp

    Well, let's start from the bottom up. The BSA didn't create a unified program at the Scout BSA level, they created a gender-segregated program. It's no secret I don't agree with the decision to bring girls into scouting, but, anybody with a brain saw the gender-segregated solution was going to cause more problems than solutions. As for the Cub Scouts, we don't have the discussion because the packs are co-ed but the Dens are segregated. Mostly a cosmetic difference but a difference non-the-less. Working around family vacations, grandparents, custody, summer jobs, summer school, and work schedules is just the way summer camp scheduling works. While I am sympathetic to the argument about provisional camping, I'm less sympathetic to the "any week they want" arguments. Why are you limiting yourself to just your Council's summer camp? If they are setting a schedule that doesn't work for your unit, vote with your feet and dollars. Troops do this all the time over program and for any number of other issues. I guarantee if your girls troop goes somewhere other than your council camp next summer you'll get asked why plenty of times next fall. Finally, there's only harm if one decides there is. Take deep breaths and find solutions you and your girls are happy with. "People are not disturbed by things, but by the views they take of them." -Epictetus
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    Targeting Boy with False Allegations

    Near the top of my newsfeed today, a website, designed to allow for anonymous accusations against young men.
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    Boys-only weeks at camp

    Do you have evidence this is really happening or are you just catastrophizing? I agree that scouts are scouts and should have all the same access to services regardless of gender. Any council that actually does otherwise should be called out. But creating a worst case scenario and then demanding everybody get in line is unhelpful. I don't agree that anybody is diminished if a particular camp runs boy-only, girls-only, and mixed sessions. In fact I celebrate it. The more camps we have offering options for all scouts the better off we'll be.
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    Parent in need of advice

    No apology required @Momleader, and no offense taken, I was just sharing how the terms are used in my community. I had no idea it was still in general use elsewhere. My boy falls under the umbrella of IEP as well.
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    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    The short answer is the parents of the girls need to step up. February is going to be messy, but, the BSA will cave by summer once NBC picks up the second or third story like this.
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    Parent in need of advice

    Well, you get to choose your response and I couldn't care less what language you choose to use. I just shared how it's interpreted in my community. FWIW, language is revised all the time (we don't say ye or thou or foresooth much anymore), in fact language was changed to create the term in question.
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    "Classic" Scout Socks are now a thing?

    The summer camp we attended around 2010 used these for all staff members. One staffer even had his groomsmen wear them at his wedding!
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    I HATE the new YPT rules

    I have too (in both directions), but, I already had a relationship with the other scouters involved. I wasn't a stranger.
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    I HATE the new YPT rules

    I'm saying in the unit I served in a small town the COR was actively involved in multiple organizations, as was the SM, and the other leaders. The 20% of the people that do the 80% of work knew each other because the worked together on many activities and organizations. Many of them were multi-generational residents. If a total stranger showed up, registered or not, they would not have been allowed any access to our unit. If a new parent, new to town, showed up they would be limited in what we allowed them to do with the unit until we got to know them. They certainly wouldn't be allowed to be the second adult on an outing with only two adults six days after they registered. Now, could a sexual predator spend years infiltrating the unit, building trust with all the parents and leaders, sure, it's possible but that's true regardless. Anybody can violate trust.
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    Boys-only weeks at camp

    So what you're saying is it's wrong for units who want a boy-only week to force that sitation on girls, but, it's ok for units that only want co-ed weeks to force that situation on boys. It's ok for girls units to devalue the feelings of boys, it's ok to make the boys feel like their wants and needs are of secondary concern, it's ok for the boys to be excluded, etc. The current movement on both the left and the right in America not for peace but to destroy one's enemies is disturbing. And the culture of victimization is crying out for adults of character to teach youth to look inside themselves for validation and strength and to be accepting of the other. But alas, all dissent must be crushed. Sigh.
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    I HATE the new YPT rules

    Well, I'm a small town scouter, that scenario never happens. Everybody knows someone who knows everyone.
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    I HATE the new YPT rules

    I have really mixed emotions about the advice to find a DE, scouter from another pack, any warm female body, to solve the issue. Even if we remove gender from the issue the conversation is basically: We don't have the leadership to meet the YPT requirements so we're going to bring in a complete stranger from the other side of the council. Nobody knows him/her but that's ok, they took the online training. Gotta say, I wouldn't sign my kid up for that solution.
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    Targeting Boy with False Allegations

    At least they admitted to the lies before the young man spent 20 years in prison. But that's ok, boys lives are just collateral damage in the dismantling of the white patriarchal hierarchy of power.
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    Parent in need of advice

    I'm sure you meant no harm, but, to a significant number of people in the special needs community the acronym/term SPED is offensive. Special Needs is fine but in reality, the term accommodations, needs no adjective.
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