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    • He was blocked re-registering in the 1970s and 1980s.  The 1968 letter had the SE say they could not ignore the accusations and said it was Brock's actions that led to the result.  For 1968, this seems like it was handled well ... for 1968 ... before computers ... before modern laws.  This sounds like BSA's files worked well. The one thing that surprised me is no police report.  So so so many of the files do have police reports.  I bet there was not a 1968 chargeable crime.  The 1960s were a long time ago and so much has change.  A lot has changed.  
    • This is not a factual statement. Part of the files were released to the public October 18th, 2012, and only after a court order. Even what was released covered only 20 years 1965 to 1985. Even today there are files that have not been released.  Boy Scout 'perversion files' offer disturbing portrait of suspected abusers, handling of their cases - oregonlive.com "Many records show Scouting officials referring to sexual abuse in the vaguest terms -- describing it as "improper and indiscreet conduct with boys" or "abnormal conduct with boys."" This is part of the path of release and why so many people associated with BSA hate him 2006: Washington State Supreme Court rules that "perversion files" must be revealed to Seattle sex-abuse lawyer Tim Kosnoff. Here is a part of the Boy Scout efforts: "Clyde A. Brock, a 53-year-old bachelor, was twice "called to task" for taking nude photographs of Boy Scouts, displaying them around his Oregon City home, then showing them off to boys who visited. Yet troop leaders didn't kick him out. Only after two Scouts came forward to say Brock had "relationships with them as well as other members of the troop ...that cannot be condoned" was he expelled from Scouting in 1968.   Scouting executives quietly blacklisted Brock from ever volunteering again, but let him skirt the accusations by writing a letter of resignation citing only his high blood pressure for quitting. Brock's case is included in 14,500 pages of confidential Boy Scout"
    • Repetitive ad infinitem; the problem was not "unique" to scouting.  It was a common issue of society then, as well as, sadly today.  It is something somehow dark in some people and part of that darker human nature, if you will.  But, again, the date on this article shows that the file was public very early on, so it was not hidden.  Horse is dead as far as that part goes.  
    • That's not a universal view. Many consider it proof that scouting's unique problem with men preying on boys was already so well known and documented after only 25 years that it was publicly acknowledged by no less than the son of a President on a national stage.  The article is proof of how early the problem was known, how long it was allowed to fester, and how little BSA effectively did about it over the ensuing decades. I've seen this article cited multiple times throughout the bankruptcy process as proof BSA has known it had a unique problem for almost its entire history. 
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