September 15, 20187 yr Direct from the National Commissioner Service Office My comments: Buzzword bingo. This is language straight from a business school. KISMIF. We have a host of educational attainment levels in our unit serving Scouter corps. If the language flies over them, they will blow it off. There should be only one goal for every Scouter above the unit serving level: UNLOAD THE leader and committee chair time backpack. Their time needs to be with youth, or being provided tools FOR youth. Every other item in their time/task backpack needs to be thrown away. YIS. ~~~~~~~~~~ https://www.facebook.com/513826472015701/posts/2062117233853276/ Edited September 15, 20187 yr by John-in-KC
September 15, 20187 yr Who is the BSA "Client?" What is our "Product" ? What is the "inefficiency" this lends itself to correcting? How is any of this going to get the kids out in the woods?
September 15, 20187 yr when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. the problem is too many businesspeople trying to run non-businesses like a business.
September 15, 20187 yr Author 1 hour ago, DuctTape said: when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. the problem is too many businesspeople trying to run non-businesses like a business. Or lawyers and safety people thinking everything a young person does is a liability suit awaiting filing.
September 15, 20187 yr Or maybe National is serious about making life easier for volunteers and reducing some of the huge infrastructure that’s been built up. Everything might not always have a hidden evil agenda.
September 15, 20187 yr 49 minutes ago, Setonfan said: Or maybe National is serious about making life easier for volunteers and reducing some of the huge infrastructure that’s been built up. Everything might not always have a hidden evil agenda. Fair point. A lot of us are really jaded. Including myself. I saw the other day the BSA newsroom post about YPT applying to digital conversations between adults and scouts. It was three years old. All the comments were gloom and doom. Today, that rule is rarely complained about.
September 16, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, Setonfan said: Or maybe National is serious about making life easier for volunteers and reducing some of the huge infrastructure that’s been built up. 🤣😆Funniest thing I heard all day.
September 16, 20187 yr I wouldn't read too much into the Polaris idea. It's not that it's bad, but there is a lot of instituonal momentum built around trying the make the BSA work. Truthfully, I see very little BSA overhead that we deal with in our unit. I am in favor of the larger goal - improving Roundtable. Roundtable is our district is a wasted resource today. I'd love to see some attention on making it more relevant.
September 16, 20187 yr Those high-up with little field hands-on experience often conceptualize, create new buzzwords or , and seek advice from outside consultants. The Polaris Method scouting website states the "Polaris Method Elevator Pitch" (so Peter Drucker) which got me thinking. Are there any elevators in tents, scout camps, council buildings? I suspect there are at Irving but anywhere else? A theory ...Someone at a National meeting must have said "I read on scouter.com that the Girl Scouts are working with an outside (Meaning REI) consultant" which was misunderstood Say that a great idea lets bring in an outside consultant guru. My brother-in-law's company brought in this Lean Manufacturing consultant. ... can't get more outside of scouting than manufacturing. Will the Polaris Method become a polarizing method between National and employees, pro's and volunteers? My $0.02,
September 16, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, RememberSchiff said: Will the Polaris Method become a polarizing method between National and employees, pro's and volunteers? My $0.02, How about a little more patrol method out of national? 😂
September 16, 20187 yr 15 hours ago, Sentinel947 said: Fair point. A lot of us are really jaded. Including myself. I saw the other day the BSA newsroom post about YPT applying to digital conversations between adults and scouts. It was three years old. All the comments were gloom and doom. Today, that rule is rarely complained about. It's not complained about because it's widely ignored.
September 16, 20187 yr 20 minutes ago, walk in the woods said: It's not complained about because it's widely ignored. Granted. I guess I should say, in my unit, it's a total non factor, our Scouts have a harder time following it than our leaders. Parents are supportive.
September 16, 20187 yr "Today, all these layers feel burdensome and people are prioritizing their time, ignoring some parts and under-supporting others." But surely, once we unveil the One Layer, the Layer to rule all other Layers, THAT will make Scouters listen.
September 16, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, walk in the woods said: It's not complained about because it's widely ignored. Yup
September 17, 20187 yr They can call it Polaris or whatever they wish. At the end of the day, it's nothing more than another series of committee meetings. Because scouting really doesn't have enough of those. Results: - Low hanging fruit--small changes that could have easily been made before all of those meetings and flip charts--will be heralded as proof of the BSA's new-found flexibility and concern for scouters. - Big annoyances, the true morale breakers, the things that really need to change--these will remain the same. Sure, the Polaris teams may delve into some "problem admiration" regarding these items but nothing significant will come of it. I see that round tables are one of the first items up for dissection. Low hanging fruit. If RT works for your district, great. If not, scrap them and don't look back. You're welcome Edited September 17, 20187 yr by desertrat77
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