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  1. There is a signficant change in Eagle Palm award policy, as of 1 August 2017. Click this to link to see it. It is a significant change in policy. There is a discussion in Advancement Resources, this post is simply to be sure this is visible to all leaders.
  2. Integration and Ceremonies

    From my view of the camp, It seems to me the Order will be somewhat easy to gender integrate. The biggest issue will be the attire of youth on Ceremonies Teams and supporting ceremonies as runners and such. With young women, with gender equality, if they have to close their chests in with clothing, so will the young men. Your alls' thoughts? ICS.
  3. Here it is, folks. It's a decision. From the Scouting Newsroom VERBATIM QUOTE Research reinforces interest expressed by families and girls nationwide as organization looks to offer programs that meet the needs of today’s families Irving, Texas – October 11, 2017 – Today, the Boy Scouts of America Board of Directors unanimously approved to welcome girls into its iconic Cub Scout program and to deliver a Scouting program for older girls that will enable them to advance and earn the highest rank of Eagle Scout. The historic decision comes after years of receiving requests from families and girls, the organization evaluated the results of numerous research efforts, gaining input from current members and leaders, as well as parents and girls who’ve never been involved in Scouting – to understand how to offer families an important additional choice in meeting the character development needs of all their children. “This decision is true to the BSA’s mission and core values outlined in the Scout Oath and Law. The values of Scouting – trustworthy, loyal, helpful, kind, brave and reverent, for example – are important for both young men and women,†said Michael Surbaugh, the BSA’s Chief Scout Executive. “We believe it is critical to evolve how our programs meet the needs of families interested in positive and lifelong experiences for their children. We strive to bring what our organization does best – developing character and leadership for young people – to as many families and youth as possible as we help shape the next generation of leaders.†Families today are busier and more diverse than ever. Most are dual-earners and there are more single-parent households than ever before [1], making convenient programs that serve the whole family more appealing. Additionally, many groups currently underserved by Scouting, including the Hispanic and Asian communities, prefer to participate in activities as a family. Recent surveys [2] of parents not involved with Scouting showed high interest in getting their daughters signed up for programs like Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts, with 90 percent expressing interest in a program like Cub Scouts and 87 percent expressing interest in a program like Boy Scouts. Education experts also evaluated the curriculum and content and confirmed relevancy of the program for young women. “The BSA’s record of producing leaders with high character and integrity is amazing†said Randall Stephenson, BSA’s national board chairman. “I’ve seen nothing that develops leadership skills and discipline like this organization. It is time to make these outstanding leadership development programs available to girls.†Starting in the 2018 program year, families can choose to sign up their sons and daughters for Cub Scouts. Existing packs may choose to establish a new girl pack, establish a pack that consists of girl dens and boy dens or remain an all-boy pack. Cub Scout dens will be single-gender — all boys or all girls. Using the same curriculum as the Boy Scouts program, the organization will also deliver a program for older girls, which will be announced in 2018 and projected to be available in 2019, that will enable them to earn the Eagle Scout rank. This unique approach allows the organization to maintain the integrity of the single gender model while also meeting the needs of today’s families. This decision expands the programs that the Boy Scouts of America offers for both boys and girls. Although known for its iconic programs for boys, the BSA has offered co-ed programs since 1971 through Exploring and the Venturing program, which celebrates its 20th anniversary in 2018. The STEM Scout pilot program is also available for both boys and girls. For more information about the expanded opportunities for family Scouting, please visit the family Scouting page. About the Boy Scouts of America The Boy Scouts of America provides the nation’s foremost youth program of character development and values-based leadership training, which helps young people be “Prepared. For Life.®†The Scouting organization is composed of nearly 2.3 million youth members between the ages of 7 and 21 and approximately 960,000 volunteers in local councils throughout the United States and its territories. For more information on the Boy Scouts of America, please visit www.scouting.org. [1] PEW Research Center survey conducted Sept. 15 – Oct. 13, 2015 among 1,807 U.S. parents with children younger than 18. [2] BSA surveys included two external Harris surveys and four internal surveys conducted from April to September 2017. Surveys were conducted online. Keep it civil.
  4. Flag Ceremonies for Political Organizations

    My two cents: If it's the County Fair, and the Iwannabeasuburb County Republican or Democratic Committee asks you to do a flag ceremony before the candidates start doing pitches, that's one thing. (I'd hope the chairs of the R and D committees know each other, and agree on Monday the Boy Scouts will do the Ds, and on Tuesday Camp Fire does the Rs, or something like that.). If it's Billybob Jumpback, running for Senator from the Great State of North Texas, and he's doing a full up campaign rally with him leading the Pledge... PASS. Again, my thoughts only.
  5. NO committee meeting for over a year

    Mod note: Moved to open discussion, program. Nothing controversial here, just basic Scouting stuff.
  6. POR review

    This is the job of the Scoutmaster, teaching the SPL how to monitor performance. That's the long and short of it.
  7. When To Cancel A Camping Trip?

    Respectfully disagree. There are places and times in winter when roads (such as I-70 in Western KS, I-80 in NE, ad infinitum) are CLOSED. If the Highway Patrol/State Police are planning to close the roads for a major winter event, you don't want to be taking youth members out. I've been lucky on some of my winter commutes, I've been able to self recover from the ditch in a 4x4. Others ... notsomuch.
  8. This is from "The Scouting Shirt Shop" Did someone at National Trademark sign off on this? And, @@RichardB, did someone sign off on broken glasses? Link: https://www.facebook.com/ScoutingShirtShop/photos/a.1209864749072411.1073741828.1209853565740196/1576047072454175/?type=3&theater
  9. Current Ad on Facebook

    Frogs or caterpillars? Look at Cubby's glasses!
  10. Current Ad on Facebook

    I sent it off to BSA Licsensing.
  11. I suspect in the case below, we will find Packs for which data in Scoutnet does not equal reality at meetings.
  12. I have been to PTC twice. For young men and women over 14, they can take a 5.5 day trek. There are programs for each Scouting age bracket, as well as support for wee ones under the Scouting age. For the non-Scouter adult spouses, there are trips to Santa Fe, Taos, Las Vegas, NM ... I knew one group who did an overnight to Albuquerque. We now return you to the regularly scheduled topic.
  13. Scoutmaster, Scout, and benefitting agency sit down, and discuss what's next. The guidance can be found below. I would recommend your SM invite your Unit Commissioner and a Member of the District Advancement Committee for a friendly cup of coffee to discuss matters. There's more than one path in the link, but the decision on that path is the Scouts, and his alone ... not his SM, CC, Eagle coach, or YOURS. http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/GuideToAdvancement/EagleScoutRank.aspx
  14. ADMIN NOTE: Scouters are Courteous and Kind. I have moved this to Open Discussion, Program. The latitude given in I&P for controversial subjects is withdrawn. Please keep the discussion to your thoughts on the mechanics of gender integration for Cubbing.
  15. IIRC the program year, as defined by ScoutNet, is June 1 to May 31. Cubs are auto promoted and locked out from the previous rank.
  16. This is a 40 minute video covering the gender integration decision. It is worth your watch. Please respond in other threads. I've posted it under lock.
  17. Family Scouting Survey Results

    Mr Sears sounds like a good Professional.
  18. Boy Dens - Girl Dens

    In cities big enough, we will see boy packs and girl packs. In smaller towns, we will see coed by den for roster purposes... and Den 1/2 will meet together. Frankly, I think we will see this in Boy Scouting too. Troop 600 will be the Boys Troop in Nowhere, NE, Troop 601 the girls. The leaders will be the same, the kids will wear their numbers, the meeting location/night will be the same, but the meetings will be the Wolf Patrol and the Mustang Patrol being the girls, and the Mountain Lion Patrol and the Tiger Patrol being boys.
  19. Council Pressure

    Moved by a Moderator, this is business as usual, not an I&P issue.
  20. Friendly reminder: Scouters are Friendly Courteous Kind.
  21. Respectfully disagree. If they are going to award Eagle to girls (and they say they are), we're going to see "separate but equal" troops of girls. I wonder how long that will last...
  22. 2-3 years from now, Ordeals. Stand by for requirement for regalia to cover the chest at all times, imo.
  23. I'm already watching the FB group of volunteers in my Council go bananas. So is @@WAKWIB ...
  24. The issue with girls in Scouting

    Closing the thread. National has made the decision. It's a done deal.
  25. "Old Codgers Die in Bed."

    Always good to hear from you, E!