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    OA to end AoL ceremonies?

    A number of long time OA guys have reported that national has decided to end the use of native American regalia in all AoL, cub colors, callouts, or any ceremony where non OA members are present. All in the name of never offending anyone in any way at any time I guess. Not sure about the status of dance teams. Rumor has it this will be announced at NOAC this sumner.
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    OA to end AoL ceremonies?

    So we just drop the sashes and just carry on as before? The ceremonies teams around here seem to think that's their best option right now.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    In my familys case having spent decades in both BSA and GSUSA, this feels like watching your parents fight it out in divorce court.
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    What is the future of Training?

    Amen!! This cannot be said to often
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    Totin/ whittling Chip

    Fine with me.
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    Time to Go.

    Hoo Boy ! That's going back a ways. I would need to dig out my old handbook collection to be sure, but I think it was in "72 with the whole nightmare " improved scouting" thing. I know when I "crossed the bridge" in '69 it was a week before my 11th birthday and everyone in my Webelos den left one at a time when they turned 11. It made for a steady (ish) flow of new Tenderfeet in the troop, rather than a huge influx once a year. As others have pointed out ,it made troop guides and NSP unneeded . Almost all of the scout skills I learned were taught one on one by the older scouts in my patrol. They were some very tough teachers because they understood, if I didn't know my stuff, the Fox patrol would kick our tails on the next campout. and that meant those Foxes would be the ones eating the apple pie with ice cream that the SPL awarded as the prize. It's very hard to hide in the back of the class when you are the sole student.
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    What would you do?

    30 minutes of your time? Plus mileage? I would hand them a bill for services rendered. If they can afford concert tickets...
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    Time to Go.

    A quick question if I may. I admit it's been about 20 years since I worked with Webelos, but I didn't promote any troop over another. We visited 3 or 4 local troops and it was up to the cubs and their parents to pick out the troop that best fit their needs. Have things changed ?
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    Totin' Chip "Tool Wheel"

    it's a new one on me as well. I like the idea of having the tools in one place, but I'm not going to lay any of my axes, hatchets, knives, or saws on the ground. d
  10. Now that seems totally fair.
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    Time to Go.

    Eagle, I know firsthand how hard this can be. But honestly it doesn't sound like you're leaving a scout troop. More like a collection of self-important children, no matter what age. Take care of your kids first and foremost, secondly take as many as you can with you. Try to show them what real scouting should be. Lastly try not to burn all the bridges behind you. It does indeed get better.
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    Qualities of an Eagle

    Firstly, I fail to see what the cultures in India and other middle eastern nations have to do with criteria for choosing a spouse in America, unless perhaps the region in which you reside has a significant number of immigrants from such areas. As far as I am able to ascertain no one here has called for suttee, or dowery, or even the acceptance of sexist and demeaning jokes or stories. Secondly, scouting belongs to the scouts. Not the siblings, not the parents, not even the Scouters with half a century of experience, The scouts.
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    Qualities of an Eagle

    It does? Where?
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    Lawnmower Parents

    I know the pain all to well. As soon as they are finally trained well enough to not need supervision every 15 minutes, they pack the car up and leave. Bye, see you at Thanksgiving.
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    Adult Supervision for Online Communications

    As others have pointed out, the first priority for National is covering its legal behind. They cannot help but know that some aspects of their policy are simply impossible to follow. Just how are we as volunteers supposed to stop the scouts from snapchatting, etc? I really don't think they expect us to follow all these rules, some of which seem completely antithetical to the purpose of scouting.
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    Eagle Scout Extension for new 2019 Scouts

    Stated to type a comment, then realized that I just don't care anymore. Just glad my two sons, five nephews and I earned Eagle before all this " the sky is falling" or " a lawsuit is pending" nonsense started. We often hear adults say that Boy Scouts has changed a lot since they were kids. But scoutson #4 doesn't recognize scouting nowdays and he is only 21. I guess it's about time to finish that last cup of coffee, hoist my pack, and head down the trail.
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    Lawnmower Parents

    Not trying to come off as " being superior" here, but our troop doesn't advertise or even mention merit badge mills colleges. Every one in our area seem has seemed much more concerned with handing out the maximum number of badges than actually teaching the scouts. In some cases the badge was awarded with only about half of the requirements completed. If a scout wants to go on his own he can, and no one will say anything negative about it. But I'm not going to help him use cheat codes.
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    YPT2 deadline

    I spent over an hour just trying to get on scoutbook. First my account didn't exist, then it did, then the password I used for the last 2 years was no good, I tried to get them to send me a new temp password, but the account was back to not existing,please sent us your BSA ID #, so I did. Nope, still doesn't exist. so I tried to create a new account. It twice insisted my address was invalid although I've lived there for 30 years. It worked the third time ,don't know why finally Got a little FAILURE TO SET UP ACCOUNT sign! with a suggestion that I call my local Scout service center tomorrow for help
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    Native American Festival

    Sounds like fun, I'll see if any of the team can come. if you are going to be there maybe we can finally have that cup o' joe.
  20. Sorry to say, that does seem to be the case recently.
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    BSA: The POLARIS Method

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    Scouting Magazine - betting the farm on girls

    OK so the program will be the same for both sexes. But will it be the same as it is now? or radically changed ?
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    Oct 1, 2018 - GSS ends Patrol Method?

    which my scouts are planning to totally ignore. I am planning on going temporarily deaf whenever they are discussing any such activities. I don't like flouting rules, but it's the best option I have at this point. The patrol method may indeed be dying, but not on my watch
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    Scouting Magazine - betting the farm on girls

    My immediate family has about 90 years in GSUSA, about 85 in BSA. We bleed green. I don't recall anyone ever being charged with " disdain and disrespect " or thinking women are worse than third class citizens. Whatever that is. But both have morphed to the point where it's more about the program and the money than the Scouts.and so the whole clan is ready to walk out that door. All we ask is that you not slam it on us as we sadly take our leave.
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    Scouting Magazine - betting the farm on girls

    Which is why quite a number of the older scouts that trust me enough to speak candidly are planning on going backpacking, camping etc on their own. To quote a 17 year old in my troop " I didn't earn an Eagle badge to be treated like a Cubscout"