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  1. Im my experence when the rules that National imposes are explained to the parents of prospective scouts, most roll their eyes, some ask if we actually follow these all these absurd, ridiculous rules( their words), and there are always a few mutters of " You gotta be *@/&ing kidding me" So yeah, I think it might look O.K. to quite a few people.
  2. Mine too, since "67. Although there were breaks of a few years when the kinder were infants and getting enough sleep was but a fond memory. Right now I'm looking at life after scouting and wondering what to do with it. Half the stuff in the garage is camping gear and OA regalia. Even when I go for a walk in the woods I find myself looking at shed snake skins or cast deer antlers and thinking " That would be a good thing to take back and show the sco.... never mind"
  3. How I wish I could argue with you on this
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    Badge Magic is THE DEVIL!!!

    Try heating the badge up with an iron set on low. makes the plastic nice and soft
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    Badge Magic is THE DEVIL!!!

    They told me that if you find a snipe and take it home, it will carefully peck all the old badge magic off your uniform.
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    another pay check

    And a few hours ago I sat in the front row as the only vigil on the team, a 20 year old ceremonialist in the role of Meteu draped a Vigil " cookie " over his father's head, and told him that he needed a new sash.
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    another pay check

    Still recovering from the Ordeal. Tired, sore but smiling. I just watched a young Arrowman drape a brotherhood sash over his fathers shoulder just a few hours after he gave his younger brother an ordeal sash. His older brother, who was the head elongomat for the weekend, was standing nearby watching and smiling. That should keep me going for a while.
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    I have been reluctant to reply as I was unable to attend NOAC. I did however have a long conversation at last weekends Vigil inductions with a friend who has been performing / advising ceremonies for over 40 years, and has often served as a NOAC judge as well. It seems there was a one hour seminar devoted to this subject, that ran almost three hours. So as best as my sleep deprived brain can recall... National was receiving 4-6 phone calls or emails a month complaining of cultural theft. That's 48-72 per year out of how many thousands of AoL ceremonies? But this is National. They seem to panic at any negative press now days. So they decided to rework it and take it out of local hands. The first draft was written by the two guys who rewrote the Brotherhood Ceremony a few years back. Then it was handed off to the Cub Exec Committee. Which is why, I guess, it is such a " lame, corny " skit. As well as a rather shameless plug for expensive high adventure camps. The attendees were assured that there is no plan to change anything else. Callouts, Ordeal, Brotherhood, and Vigil will remain as they are. Of course there was " no plan to let girls into Boy Scouts " either. Call me cynical Oldscout PS. So far, every scout on my team wants to go with a Standing Bear Productions LLC model
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    Who is minding the Baltimore Area Council office?

    Well, the council HQ is right across from Druid Hill, a section of Baltimore that has more than its fair share of drug use, and if you have never been to " Balmer" I can assure you that's saying something.
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    SHOULD HE BE REVOKED AS SPL?

    Guess not
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    Troop mascots

    Our little group has a 16" tall Buzz Lightyear that is carried about and is always the centerpiece on our table at meals, and salutes smartly at every flag ceremony I am not sure how the tradition started, he has been around for years. To infinity and beyond !
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    Parent Wars: The Helicopter Strikes Back

    You were sent into a public competition with no training, no preparation, and no time to at least practice ? ! Your Scoutmaster sounds like a complete and total ,non-empathetic jackass. How in the world could that possibly be considered good for anyone? Scoutmasters like that we just don't need. Rant over, sorry you had to go thru that. Oldscout
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    From one old ceremonies advisor to another A scout salute, the handclasp of our Order, and a heartfelt Thank You ! Godspeed
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    " Too many chiefs and not enough braves? We can always use more chiefs,for ' He who serves is greatest!' the Chief, the Sakima. What is a Sakina? He is a man with feathers- the Inner Man in each if us: The feathered Spirit that, like an arrow, flies straight and true. What is the work of ceremonies? Fletching. Fletching every one!" Jay Dunbar ' The Drum'
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    Miscellaneous Uniform Gripes

    There is an excellent unofficial ceremonies guide that assigns each of the principles a color, a wind, an element, a season, a time, a realm, a challenge, a tradition, and a few more I can't bring to mind. Other that one reference, I dont see how colored shirts have any symbolic meaning.
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    Miscellaneous Uniform Gripes

    Actually I find it quite encouraging that they didn't know what it was. The faster the KKK and like minded groups fade into obscurity and disrepute the happier I will be.
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    So at the risk of being called a capitalist imperialist, anybody want to buy a big drum? Quickly?
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    I want a red lightsaber! And we could all get Darth Vader outfits. Impressive, most impressive
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    In the opening ceremony at NOAC today, all four principles wore black robes. No native american regalia at all. A nod to our beginnings on Treasure Island, or a harbinger of things to come?
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    As does the OA, I do not see why the Order is needed to act this out. Anyone with a uniform could do it. I suspect the scouts that have spent untold amounts of time and effort both scripting and performing in the past, will simply decline to attend another Cub ceremony, unless they can sit in the audience. I'll let you know what my boys deside.
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    One in the morning, a full moon,a small fire, and I am pretty sure I'll be leaving the OA come January first. Or rather the OA will have left me if the ceremonies are declared illegal and whateverthey try to replace it with is as corny as the new AoL Ah well, 44 years is a good long time. I'm grateful my sons got to go thru the ceremonies. It meant a lot to them. Just sad it looks like my grandsons won't have the chance. ButI still have two vigils to attend, two brotherhood, one pre and one last ordeal ceremony to help run. I'll try to make them the best ever. The scouts deserve at least that.
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    I'm not sure the exec committee is listening
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    If they announce at NOAC that regalia is soon to be banned, I hope that a large number of arrowmen have the guts to walk up up the podium and drop their sashes at the speakers feet before walking out in protest. Oh, and live stream it to youtube.
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    I have little contact with my lodge leadership, most of the adults seem to be lawers or business executives, it is Washington DC. after all, and a blue collar guy just doesn't fit in. But from what I have gleaned over the years, the advisers are the ones calling the shots. The votes the youth take are mostly formalities, the important decisions have already been made, and the youth are told in advance what the correct decision will be.
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