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Oldscout448

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    Just Another Award ?

    I will bet a weeks months pay that SSScout doesn't care a whit about getting yet another knot on his shirt. if he did he wouldn't be asking for input
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    Senior patrol leader eligibility?

    On paper? a registered scout and elected by the troop In reality? A scout who will do the work and the other scouts will follow. Age and rank do play their part but they are less important than the person. Some SPLs do a great job at 12, some do a terrible job at 17
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    So can Venture crews go camping on their own?
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    Summer Camp Staff

    i once thought that everyone had fired their ten rounds. I called "Cease Fire " twice and turned to check on the next batch of shooters. Just as I said " OK next ba CRACK ! tch...I think my heart stopped until the echo died away, the first time shooter on the far end had one round left, and he had never heard the term "cease fire" before . He had absolutely no idea what it meant . My fault, I had not walked down the line and checked each gun, and i had been hearing range commands for so long I assumed that that everyone understood them.
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    Summer Camp Staff

    one other thing . when you are the RSO that is your only job. keep the range safe! Just like a lifeguard has one job. to guard life do not let yourself be distracted by anything a friend calling your name, a fight between two scouts at the archery range, nothing stay focused.. and I wish I had your job.
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    Summer Camp Staff

    Assuming that the weather in New Hampshire is like that of Vermont, I second the long pants. Also helpful when hot brass casings are flying about. Good shoes you are gonna be on your feet a lot. A spotting scope if the range does not have one, a fan if you have access to power, helps keep the bugs away at night. A good head lamp. a lockable trunk. a multitool or swiss army knife, a pillow. a small light for your tent. The two most important things however are a "lifeguards eye" that can look at 10 things in 10 seconds looking for the screw up that is about to happen, and the This is my range. I put up with zero crap from anyone attitude. I had more problems with the adults than the kids by far. Worst were the dads who thought they knew what they were doing on a range. If they won't obey the rules you have to be prepared to chuck 'em out. For whatever its worth I opened every class with this " I am not prepared to have to write some scouts Mom a letter explaining that her son has a hole in his head because I let someone else be a screw up ! If anyone here tries to be that screw up, I will throw him off this range in a heartbeat. NO excuses ! NO second chances! Do we have an understanding?" after that we always had a lot of fun Oldscout Oh yeah, the best target of the day by a scout got a free ice cream at the trading post. And remember for a number of scouts this is the first time they have ever shot a gun, for some of them it will be tho only time ever. Try to make it fun for them. be prepared to give up a little of your free time to help those who are struggling
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    Just Another Award ?

    I believe I know the county in which this scouter hypothetically must reside. Lord knows it has been an ever changing mess. My first thought is " Whoever did the work has earned the right to wear the award." But I can also see how wearing two of the same knot would indeed look a little strange. There should be some way to show this award without seeming vain. Perhaps a small device that could be worn on the knot? As to the accepting of this award, let us assume that the PTB wish to give due honour to this mystical scouter for his service to the current district . The award of merit is the highest honour that a district can bestow and are not given lightly. If they desire to so give it , I would council humble acceptance. your northern neighbor, Oldscout
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    I think I lost about that much at Philmont.
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    The insane thing is that IOLS. training in that district teaches that axes are too dangerous for scouts to use. In fact scouters are discouraged from using then as well. Sets a bad example for the boys don't you know.
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    Well I can understand not letting the new crossovers hook up or light the stoves until they are shown how to do it safely. It should also be done on their very first campout.
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    True, but its better than " Hold mah beer"
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    Yep, there is a troop about 5 miles away from me that has banned axes, walking sticks, and only adults are allowed to light stoves. All in the name of " safety" I was very much tempted to buy a giant roll of bubble wrap from Costco and hand it to the SM.
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    what is this G2SS you speak of?
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    that sounds risky! WE used a sturdy branch.
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    Survival campout- we held one every summer just before school started. Limited to firstclass and higher. you were allowed a canteen ,a knife (any size) and whatever you could fit in an altoids tin. shelter? make one. food ? go find some blackberries or cattails, or catch a fish in the lake. Fire? bow and drill isnt that hard if you have practiced, or find some quartz and cattail fluff. 3-4 day canoe trip, camping on islands if possible catapults and water balloons! every patrol makes their own. and is issued 40 small and 15 big balloons. Firing to begin at 2:00pm tonights cracker barrel is somewhere in the woods, here is your first compass bearing. make sure you start by the white oak tree and not the poplar which patrol can lash together the best table /chair by dinnertime ? Apple pie to the winner
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    Last time I camped out with the troop, sitting round the campfire, some of the older scouts asked for a scout story from the old days. So I told them one or two , then turned to go. They asked for another, then another. Surprised and somewhat pleased they were so interested I never once thought I was getting myself in trouble. But the next PLC it seemed all the scouts demanded to know why they couldn't do fun stuff like Mr Oldscout did. I dont think I'm gonna be allowed to tell stories without supervision anymore. And I had left out all the crazy ones. When I joined scouts in '70 it was billed as an adventure, one without safe spaces or coloring books. We were sometimes cold, sometimes wet, sometimes hungry. But it was the most fun we had ever had. Bottom line The more we make scouts like school the less boys will like it.
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    Sorry if that came off sounding a bit snarky, I just think you are showcasing a loophole that will barely exist.
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    Sorry but from all the "loving inclusion " I have been reading about in Catholic publications and hearing from the pulpit. I would be astonished if any parish would establish such guidelines that would last three years before being nullified by the bishops Does " Who am I to judge?" ring a bell?
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    From National: Official Name

    The amount of pride in any accomplishment is directly proportional to the amount of effort expended in achieving it. I still remember pacing back and forth waiting my turn outside the room where the troop committee held its monthly boards. Every scout in the troop was always tested on something. Almost always it was our weakest skill. It seemed that the committee actually asked our patrol leaders about us. Sneaky old adults that they were! If we failed and I mean totally failed not just struggled a wee bit we were kindly asked if we felt that we truly deserved the rank. If we answered no we were asked to let them know when we thought we were, and they would meet with us as soon as possible. As scouts we understood that in our troop badges were awarded for showing mastery of the skill not just a passing acquaintance. That's why we wore them with such pride. We were all rather very disdainful of the troop down the road which had quite a number of scouts who wore Star or Life patches and couldn't light a fire on a hot dry day without an entire box of matches,or tie a bowline without the handbook and several tries. We loved the merit badges that were challenging like shooting, pioneering, wilderness survival, archery. or lifesaving. Fingerprinting? Bah ! Lets Make Scouting Fun Again !
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    Ah, thank you
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    Let me make sure I understand you here. Are you saying that everyone in society should just follow whatever moral code strikes their fancy?
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    Drums

    So does anyone else use a drum or a flute in the ceremonies?
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    if you feel no need then there is no need.
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    Perhaps we could get the moderators to open a religious argument only section of this forum.
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    Hawkwin, I too have attended many a southern baptist meeting. As well as Methodist Catholic Episcopalian and a Pentecostal or two. Allow me to make a distinction here. I think there is a difference between failing to live up to biblical standards and the outright rejection of biblical standards. Yes we all fail none of us are perfect yet we are called to keep trying. To keep getting back up after falling. I think the difficulty lies and where some of us would say this is clearly a sin biblically speaking. But others say no it's not it's fine in fact it should be celebrated we don't care what that old book says. Again I am not the keeper of anyone's conscience I am merely trying to point out that it is disingenuous for someone to say I believe in the Bible when they obviously in fact do not
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