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desertrat77 last won the day on October 28 2017

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  1. OA and the aboriginal cultures

    Okay, I'll be specific in this post. How is the OA disrespectful when some Native American nations approve of certain OA lodges using their traditions, garb, and ceremonies?
  2. Origin of the Eagle Pledge and Eagle Charges

    Re the Eagle's nest, asking all Eagles to stand, etc: Maybe it's just me, but as the years slip by, I have become increasingly uncomfortable when I'm recognized for something I earned 40 years ago. There is no need to congratulate me, or pat me on the back. The new Eagle, other Eagles in his family, Eagles he climbed the trail with--great, put the spotlight on them. But random old dude like me? No thanks.
  3. OA and the aboriginal cultures

    But if a specific Native American nation says "OA Lodge #X, you have our permission to use our ceremonies, dress, etc., and we'll work with you to ensure authenticity," and Lodge #X lives up to their end of the deal, how is that disrespectful?
  4. OA and the aboriginal cultures

    I was speaking to the generalized "The OA is a horrible, disrespectful organization" argument, and specifically re any OA lodge's relationship to a particular Native American nation. Not of OA-unit relationships. Your unit is your unit.
  5. OA and the aboriginal cultures

    With respect, I think this represents a disconnect as well. I've belonged to four different lodges, beginning as a new Arrowman in '76. All of them did their best to celebrate and give due credit to Native American culture. They prepared and performed in earnest. If a Native American nation does not want an OA lodge to represent their culture, that's one thing. Salute smartly and obey. (Edited to add:) But a particular Native American nation may approve of an OA lodge representing their culture. If so, should disapproving outsiders have the last say?
  6. OA and the aboriginal cultures

    The OA promotes cultural appreciation, not appropriation. There is a difference.
  7. Would you wear unique council patches?

    I'd wear the old community strip. But the only one I can find (for my burg) costs $170something dollars on the Big Auction Site. Plus 2.97 s/h.
  8. Calico, I still use the scout's pace at times. Read about it in an old scout book when I was I kid. Had to walk every where back then, long distances, so I tried it. Worked like a charm. Just about the time I was tired/bored of running 50 paces, I'd walk 50 paces. Catch my breath. Run 50. Walk 50. Repeat cycle until I arrived at my destination. Not that this has anything to do with the topic at hand. Apologies and carry on.
  9. Sam Browne belt (leather duty belt) with uniform ?

    +1 with Eagle on the GI pistol belt. Cheap and functional.
  10. Alcatraz. We arrived first thing in the morning, a beautiful sunny San Francisco day. The plan: do some service projects, then spend the night in the penitentiary itself, then leave on the first boat out. Brought along food and charcoal to cook our meals. The scouts ran up and down the main cell block, selecting the cells (all single bunk) they'd spend the night in. Fascinating place. We did our service projects. Tourists came and went. After the last visitors left, the park service ranger who was escorting us showed us some parts of the prison that the public doesn't get to see. The sun set. The prison got dark. No electricity. The main cell block was as dark as a coal mine, and eerie. Most of the scouts abandoned their plans to sleep inside. Instead, they slept on a sloping patch of grass that oversees the bay and the night lights of SF. Me? I was a brand new ASM and knew I couldn't live with myself if I chickened out. So I took my flashlight and found cell B136 (if memory serves) and rolled out my sleeping bag. Several of us stayed inside. But it was a long, long, long night. Nothing happened, though the park service ranger told some pretty convincing ghost stories. You could hear a pin drop. Someone several cells away could cough slightly and you could hear it clear as a bell. I got very little sleep that night, and was quite glad to see the sun streaming through the skylights the next morning.
  11. Schiff, Baker tents--wow! That is certainly "back in the day." Those weren't very light either, if memory serves. We were issued well-designed nylon red tents, each with a separate fly that could be used by itself on warm nights. BW crew photo and wood fire: check and check. Ajax: we used tetrox, which was applied in the same manner. We were warned about the gastrointestinal danger of even a little bit getting into the food.
  12. I think I resemble that as well!
  13. It really is! So much has changed since I was a youth. I've been trying to get back for decades but work and family commitments did not permit. Then, lo and behold, events lined up and I found myself as part of a 2018 contingent, and my work scheduled allowed me to attend PSR-PASS. A good rule of thumb that applied to me: if the last time you camped at Philmont, the standard was to cook all of your meals on fire, you'll learn a lot at PSR-PASS.
  14. I definitely resemble that remark.
  15. Rocks in My Backpack, by Tom Sholes

    I've read it, and will re-read it again in the near future. It's a great book and now has a special place on my book shelf.