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  1. Fellow Scouters and Venturers, Greetings! Although a different division of the BSA. Let's not forget about Learning for Life, and the various career Explorers. OT, If Venturing just doesn't satisfy your curiousity. Possibly you can visit your local Council Office, and ask if there is a Law Enforcement or Fire Department Explorer Post in your neighborhood. Scouting Forever and Venture On! Crew21 Adv
  2. jewelofdnl74, Greetings! Here is a question. Could you transfer Den Leader to another adult leader and assume Assistant Cubmaster? Here is my story, then I'll ask you a few questions.... Like a few other friends, I bounced back and forth between Boy Scouting, Cub Scouting, and Venturing over the years. I felt pretty comfortable as Cubmaster (and emcee), I also knew the major programs coming up in the next 2-3 months. But I knew that I didn't do it alone, the advancement chair lined up the advancements, the den leaders worked directly with their dens, the treasurer h
  3. Fellow Scouters, Greetings! I may be coming into this string late, but I picked up on the last comment from hendrickms24 and what BrotherhoodWWW pointed out. hendrickms24 had previously stated. "I'm not going to be the Merit badge counselor for any of my son's Merit badges because I know it's a big no no." Here is how it is handled in my troop. My troop desires to use the district list of MBC Counselors that we receive from the Council Registrar. I think the SM Handbook states that the SM will direct the boy to a counselor, but we use our advancement chair to identi
  4. NealOnWheels and Fellow Scouters, Just to add to the mass confusion. I just checked my BALOO Syllabus again. There is a Round Robin session called "Cub Scout Cooking". In my district, we have usually taught during IOLS were adults learn about patrol cooking and although they sanitize, food prep, cook, and KP, as an entire group just to gain the experience. Then, we teach them that a PL will fill out a fair duty roster with his patrol, dividing up the various duties. We make the comparison during BALOO, that in a troop there is patrol cooking and the youth actually clea
  5. moxieman, Greetings! Silver Award Ceremonies and associate Venturing Awards like the Ranger Award are still fairly recent when compared with Eagle Scout Award and Ceremonies. There are many Eagle Scout Rank webpages, resources, ceremonies and recognition gifts that can be found. But not many Venturing ceremonies can be found online. CNYScouter gave you one link to a ceremony on the National Venturing Youth Cabinet webpage (I believe there were about 2 or 3 more Ranger ceremonies on that page). They are good resources! To follow CNYScouters idea. My advice and request
  6. tcora, Greetings! John in KC gave the accurate answer. I was looking for the link to the Unit Money Earning Application as well. Just to note. Similar discussions regarding wearing of the uniform and fundraising have occurred on this and other Scouting forums. This application, like other BSA documents, has been updated slightly over the years. I seem to recall years ago, it had more constraining restrictions regarding when a Scout may wear the BSA uniform during fundraising listed on the backside of that application. Thankfully BSA has relaxed it to allow Councils to d
  7. Crossramwedge, Greetings! Eagle Scout is a high accomplishments and achievement that I applaud. Any potential Scout should only achieve Eagle Scout if he has met all of the existing requirements (nothing more, nothing less). Now after some Scouts do achieve Eagle Scout, as eghiglie pointed out, I say most all Eagle Scout soar and just a few fall from the nest. They will know what kind of Eagle Scouts they are, and how their personal character was displayed when taking the easy road on the Scouting trail. A candidate does not have to be signed off favorably by any Board o
  8. kittle, Greetings! A Scout can go to a Board of Review for two reasons, to see if they are ready for the next rank, and also to see why they are not advancing, usually those Scouts are not camping or not bringing their handbook. A Scout can receive two answers from a BOR. "Advanced", and "Not yet ready for advancement". It is not a fail, it is not taken back, it is not yet ready for advancement. I concur with emb021 statement. Rank cannot be taken back. The Scout should bring their handbook to an advancement BOR. Was your son's handbook signed off as completing a BOR?
  9. Fellow Scouter and Fellow Arrowmen, Regarding Scoutldr post. I can share the same sentiment. I've driven and accompanied election teams a few times. Sometimes the Arrowmen may know a few Scouts in the other troop, sometimes I know a few leaders and Scouts. But at the end of the election. Usually the election team is extremely happy with the results. When every Scout nominated by the Scoutmaster is voted in, the Chapter election team is very happy. In other troops and on other nights, sometimes, the election team has walked away with 1 out of 10, 1 out of 20 being succ
  10. FrankBoss, Greetings! Youve already been explained the basic purposes and programs of the OA. A few comments to add. The OA Lodge invites all nominated candidates to the OA Ordeal. The candidates are not "hand selected by the Lodge-Chapter, all that are elected in their own troops are invited. Probably a better question to ask would have been, how do the Scouts in a troop elect Arrowmen into the OA. Here is what is stressed to the troops during election. From the Guide to OA Officers and Advisors during election; stress the following points: Select the candidates
  11. ScoutMomAng, Greetings! There are probably a few variations of this skit. The most common one I've seen only takes two characters. Here is what I've usually seen. Usually the two characters are on a long distance telephone with static (yeah I guess that's old) or maybe a cell phone now with bad reception coverage. A Scouting buddy has written a book, 101 Things To Do With A Bandana, during his break time between Merit Badge Sessions. He is excited about writing the new book that he wants to sell in the trading post and wants his friend to review the book and critiqu
  12. iwannaBaCubscout, In another organization I belong to, just a few years ago, a buddy of mine was the top performer of the year out of 10,000 peers. He received a plaque, lapel pin, handshakes, pat on the back and etc. The next year, he was nominated (multiple times by many peers) to a board position, he accepted and was voted in. It was the wrong decision; he is still a great guy, but totally incapable of fulfilling that specific board position. Six months into the year, I had to ask him to resign the board position so that we could hold a special election just to rep
  13. Fellow Scouters, If I can comment I have served in a few councils and on just a few Wood Badge staffs in a few councils. One Council I served with, read the vague directions in the WB21C guide. Although the guide will not explicitly state a rule, it became the interpretation from a vague instruction. I guess that is how Urban Legends are born. The rational many of the trainers had was; if a manual states an action specifically, then the absence of a follow-on statement must mean that the action must come to an end. My fellow Scouters in that Council read what was writte
  14. WestCoastScouter and Fellow Scouters, Greetings! If I can tell a brief story. A Scouting friend of mine states that Scouters must attend EDGE before they can be a district trainer. If you read the EDGE, it is required (at a minimum) to staff NYLT and Wood Badge. It would certainly help to be a district trainer (training the specifics courses) but it is not required for that level. Similarly, you do not need to have earned a Merit Badge in your youth, to be a Merit Badge Counselor. I believe the minimum requirement is an adult application and the Merit Badge Counselor Appl
  15. WestCoastScouter, Two of my favorite simple skits for Cub Scout age. "There's a Bear" and "Tracks" Theres a Bear The den lines up, with their head tilted and speaking with a slow southern drawl. 1st Cub - Thar's a Bear! (sounds like Bar though) 2nd Cub - Whar? 1st Cub - Over thar! (point to the right with his full left arm) 2nd Cub - Thar's a Bear! 3rd Cub - Whar? 2nd Cub - Over thar! (points just like 1st Cub did) (Continues down the line, then repeats with pointing to the left with the right arm crossing arms, then repeats with pointing to the right with
  16. ahofer, Also... I think many adult Scouters and a few youth Scouts join this forum to discuss Scouting. To discuss how to deliver a program. And sometimes, how to work thru a dilemma. One of your final statements, I would expect most all Scouters do fundamentally concur with, and desire the best for any youth. ahofer said "My own concern was also to get this scout (and other agnostic scouts) to think before they blurt out "I'm an atheist" before an Eagle board of review. I believe many who think of themselves as atheists may really be agnostic, and as I said in prior p
  17. ahofer, Greetings! I enjoyed the tone of your second post. You presented fair opinions and statements without exerting a hostile controversy. I hope we are on even ground now. We may enjoy different opinions, but we are cautious in presenting them as fact. (Any fellow poster that states percentage or similar will be questioned on it in this forum or other forums) Also, it is easy to get emotional about a forum topic, and type a slur or insult like troll or fanatic. We all have probably done it either face to face, in an email or on a webpage forum. Then after learning
  18. Fellow Scouters, EdgeofThorn said "I am an "atheist," and "I'm assuming you think I'm a troll" It seems Edge started the name calling. Edge even offered the idea. ahofer said "that only a small percentage of BSA members are religious fanatics -- the rest of us are with you" I wonder where these statistics and percentages are from?? I guess ahofer has become the spokesperson for whoever "the rest of us" are, and their entire Scouting population. Equally, isn't calling Scouts that make a declaration of religious principal a fanatic disrespectful? A "godly" person wou
  19. Fellow Scouters, Scoutstuff.org is on facebook.com? posting erroneous information. Oh good grief. What's next? We'll be signing off handbook requirements in twitter.com and advancement reports on myspace? Good thing the new uniform has that pocket for their ipod/cellphone. lol Now regarding the difference between Boy Scout Forest Green and Venturing Kelly Green. I concur, they have been two different colors for the past year. But if local council stores follow suit with Scoutstuff.org, we may just have one choice of green loops for both programs in the ne
  20. SctDad, Greetings! My chapter has had the misunderstanding by parents and other Scouters as well. That we are nothing more than "Free Child Labor". We attempt to demonstrate that we are that, plus more. I ask for 50/50... Half work and half fun. And try to get the chapters buy in. Many of our youth Arrowmen don't drive themselves, so we have to find a draw for the parents (some are Arrowmen, some are not). During business meeting and script rehearsal, they drink rootbeer and eat beef jerky. After business meeting we watch maybe 30 minutes of Last of the Mohicans (ok
  21. John and kahits, Greetings! Yes maybe I did ramble on. My thoughts, to attempt to be more brief. If kahits daughter did speak and set these goals with the crew advancement chairman (before the summer); I would agree, the goals were set (obtain the signature (or email endorsement) from the past advancement chair) then the Advisor should qualify that these goals were met. If kahits daughter did not set any goals and entered into no agreement with the advancement chair. I applaud the accomplishments of kahits daughter (hiking the mountain trail in PTC and Powderhorn are
  22. kahits, Greetings! Here is my opinion. Sometimes reading the Bronze, Gold and Silver Award. The Bronze is a big step it seems to take a year (at the quickest pace) or longer to complete, in any of the categories. To myself. The Gold demonstrates planning activities and leadership. I previously viewed Silver to be on par with Eagle Scout, but have since changed my mind. Gold requires letters of recommendation, and a Crew Review and seems to have the difficulty level of Eagle Scout. The Silver Award seems to be a continuation on the path, like Eagle Palms. The Eagle
  23. Eagle92, Thanks! I think you've said you were a professional Scouter before. At least the professional Scouters would have a better knowledge of the data entries. The entries are usually only done via online advancements or by one single registrar per council. So while I've seen printouts and discussed the databases and ScoutNET, I can only appreciate it from a distance. I would not have expected Webelos Activity pins to be in ScoutNET. I have experienced quite a few adults, parents and Scouters that falsely believe ScoutNET maintains all data, just exactly like the c
  24. PACK15NISSAN and Fellow Scouters, PACK15, I think you handled it correctly. You asked the correct questions to the parent, then asked the parent to facilitate communications with the previous WDL. I don't think there is a better way. I think ScoutNut stated it correctly regarding ScoutNET. The ScoutNET2000 should have primarily advancement items, which are quiet fewer database entries than Packmaster, Troopmaster, Ranknfile (now obsolete) and Scoutsoft. ScoutNET would have the ranks Tiger, Wolf, Bear and Webelos and the Arrow of Light Award. But I do not believe that ScoutN
  25. jac0033, Also. Just to add.. You will hear alot of "trading protocol", here are a few that I remember, and our fellow forum members will probably chime in... I doubt a common camp patch or council patch would fetch much in return. It is the NSJ CSP and NSJ OA Flaps that they desire. Special NSJ issue, ghost patches, and NSJ puzzle patches or NSJ patch sets seem to be higher demand. As Chippewa29 stated, it is really the Scouts trading with other Scouts. Usually Scouts are out trading with their buddy(buddies). If a patch is on display, don't touch it unless allowed b
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